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niah Aug 23, 2023 @ 9:40pm
I chose the worst time to become a killer main
I used to be a strong survivor main before mikaela was released up until skull merchant got released while also playing killer sometimes in between, to avoid getting burnt out i switched over to killer and things went well. so well to the point where i was a firm believer the game was killer sided and almost felt bad lol. i would always go for a 3k and give last hatch because there wasn't much going for survivors at the time. HOWEVER, there were obviously some things that were also balanced, killers had strong info perks and survivors had their fair amount of meta perks. IN THIS NEW META it is impossible for me to get more than a 2k and no its not because im bad, with the release of MFT, buffed buckle up, higher use of FTP, higher use of hope (due to MFT), the removal of hook grabs, the male survivor vaulting ??? and nerfing every single decent killer perk into the ground the game is becoming so unplayable for killer mains. If im not running corrupt theres a gen done before i could even find anyone. Recently as well ive only been playing on maps that are considered the worst for killers, coldwind, badham, eyrie, etc. and the slight chance that i get midwich or the game i win with flying colors. It just doesn't make sense to me, in order for the game to be decently balanced you need strong perks and powers for both sides but every single time BHVR updates the game with big changes they make one side way stronger than the other. If survivors have made for this give us SOMETHING. Gen regression perks aren't even reliable anymore. Pain res, pop, eruption, etc. all got nerfed into the ground so gens fly. I really love this game it's just a hassle getting on at this point. ive even been catching up on Otz's streams and VODS because i cant even force myself to play dbd anymore and even he struggles to pull a 3k. has anyone else had the same issues?
Last edited by niah; Aug 23, 2023 @ 9:43pm
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Evil Minіоn Aug 24, 2023 @ 11:51am 
It's not the worst time.
There used to be times when killers were way weaker than they are now, especially when not running meta perks.

One thing about killer, that imo makes it more stressful than survivor, is that you basically start in a losing position and actively need to claw your way out of it. And nobody is helping you.

Your goal is to snowball from survivor mistakes, so playing nice from the start is usually not a good idea. And when you have the chance you need to be ruthless. Doesn't mean tunneling baby survivors at 5 gens, but all the things survivors cry about are tools you might need in some situations.

One thing that often works for me is "anti-tunneling" where I pick one or two survivors - ideally the strongest ones - and avoid wasting much time on them. But against some teams that might not be enough and you literally have to sacrifice the weakest link to the blood god to have any chance.

Basically good survivors might do gens a little faster than weaker ones but they loop you for orders of magnitude longer. So you should make sure to chase the weak loopers and make the strong looper do the gens instead.
Cookie Monster Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:29pm 
A bunch of killer main streamers just 4K'd 90% of their games as an M1 trapper with no power. All in an experiment with over 100 games. They didn't camp, tunnel, or slug at all either. Some people are really in denial about what their true skill level is in this game. You have 500 hours which is NOTHING in this game.
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Mimi (Banned) Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:40pm 
Lol, pop got nerfed? so just going to ignore the buff it got to have even more regression than it had before the nerf?
Truth seeker (Banned) Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Evil Minіоn:
It's not the worst time.
There used to be times when killers were way weaker than they are now, especially when not running meta perks.

One thing about killer, that imo makes it more stressful than survivor, is that you basically start in a losing position and actively need to claw your way out of it. And nobody is helping you.

Your goal is to snowball from survivor mistakes, so playing nice from the start is usually not a good idea. And when you have the chance you need to be ruthless. Doesn't mean tunneling baby survivors at 5 gens, but all the things survivors cry about are tools you might need in some situations.

One thing that often works for me is "anti-tunneling" where I pick one or two survivors - ideally the strongest ones - and avoid wasting much time on them. But against some teams that might not be enough and you literally have to sacrifice the weakest link to the blood god to have any chance.

Basically good survivors might do gens a little faster than weaker ones but they loop you for orders of magnitude longer. So you should make sure to chase the weak loopers and make the strong looper do the gens instead.
Yes killer were weaker before but that mostly because of all the infinite and busted thing like DS. Dont forget mmr was not a thing during that time so even if killer were weaker more often then not you had a complete noob in the survivor team compare to now.
akutle Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:06pm 
I agree with this, I believe that its dumb how the game just decides to slam the endurance status effect onto any perk to make it decent.
The Buckle Up + FTP combo is disgusting, not to mention the MFT + Hope build makes M1 killers suffer into the ground. The game is killing off the M1 killer community, forcing more people to play killers that are stronger because they can't counter these perks simultaneously. that's why you'll notice a majority of games now are Wesker, Nurse, Blight, and Spirit. Anyone who says "just run Fearmonger/Blood Echo" or "just wait out their endurance" clearly don't see the issue in this aspect in the game. As a survivor main myself I think it's too strong, and its sad because I miss going against the M1 killers that you don't ever see anymore.

But I won't agree that this is the WORST time to pick killer. There used to be a time where survivors would abuse bugs in the game to purposely make killers suffer, as well as using things like instablind flashlights. It's in a bit more balanced state right now as it has ever really been, and hopefully they don't mess it up more.
Last edited by akutle; Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:09pm
Jelly Sandwich Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Tragopan:
Second, male vault speeds and Buckle Up/FtP/MFT shannanigans are PTB problems. That's why it's the PTB. They won't make it to live. Why are you talking as if these problems are wearing you down when they're not even on live? This feels like you're grasping at straws to prove a point.
What do you mean it's the PTB problem? All of this is on live servers.
Scar Aug 24, 2023 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by Truth seeker:
I stopped caring about the hook so instead of learning the nurse or blight I decided to go back to playing the wraith and going for 4 slug before starting to hook
So you're one of those toxic killers.
Truth seeker (Banned) Aug 24, 2023 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by Scar:
Originally posted by Truth seeker:
I stopped caring about the hook so instead of learning the nurse or blight I decided to go back to playing the wraith and going for 4 slug before starting to hook
So you're one of those toxic killers.
Its not toxic i dont insult anyone. If they want me to hook more they need to make it were its worth hooking someone
niah Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by akutle:
I agree with this, I believe that its dumb how the game just decides to slam the endurance status effect onto any perk to make it decent.
The Buckle Up + FTP combo is disgusting, not to mention the MFT + Hope build makes M1 killers suffer into the ground. The game is killing off the M1 killer community, forcing more people to play killers that are stronger because they can't counter these perks simultaneously. that's why you'll notice a majority of games now are Wesker, Nurse, Blight, and Spirit. Anyone who says "just run Fearmonger/Blood Echo" or "just wait out their endurance" clearly don't see the issue in this aspect in the game. As a survivor main myself I think it's too strong, and its sad because I miss going against the M1 killers that you don't ever see anymore.

But I won't agree that this is the WORST time to pick killer. There used to be a time where survivors would abuse bugs in the game to purposely make killers suffer, as well as using things like instablind flashlights. It's in a bit more balanced state right now as it has ever really been, and hopefully they don't mess it up more.

i don't believe this is the worst period for killers in the game but its definitely up there, i didn't even want to touch the game when instablind was a thing but all this endurance stuff and the speed boosts survivors constantly have is making one of our biggest counters pointless and thats patrolling gens, you really can't do that if you just want a normal game of chasing and hooking whoever u find. its just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ chapter lol. my build on any killer consists of sloppy and an exhaustion add on to just make them waste time healing but also exhausted if they dont want to heal to milk MFT and so far its pretty decent.
niah Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:32pm 
Originally posted by Truth seeker:
Originally posted by Scar:
So you're one of those toxic killers.
Its not toxic i dont insult anyone. If they want me to hook more they need to make it were its worth hooking someone

its a genuine play style that counters certain things survivors like to do and if you feel like it necessary in a match i don't necessarily think it's toxic. Survivors have 100 perks to counter slugging.
niah Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:36pm 
Originally posted by Bunny Mimi:
Lol, pop got nerfed? so just going to ignore the buff it got to have even more regression than it had before the nerf?

it quite literally JUST got buffed. in the 7.0.0 patch. to get a pop u have to get hook stages and it really depends on the match you're playing if you even have access to that perk.
niah Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by Skull Merchant=Give Up:
A bunch of killer main streamers just 4K'd 90% of their games as an M1 trapper with no power. All in an experiment with over 100 games. They didn't camp, tunnel, or slug at all either. Some people are really in denial about what their true skill level is in this game. You have 500 hours which is NOTHING in this game.

Lol nobody is in denial ur comparing me to people who have thousands of hours in this game OBVIOUSLY there's a skill gap like no ♥♥♥♥. it's not hard to get good at dbd and it doesnt take as long as ur making it seem to have simple knowledge of your opponents and the positioning of everything. just takes a little brain power. im not gonna sit here and believe this game isn't completely situational because it is, and if you think hours translates to skill ur incredibly incorrect. sure, playtime means somebody is more likely to be better but i quite literally went against someone with 15 hours the other day and they looped me so good i had to leave them. Another point is that i didn't START this game on steam. I got this game forever ago on console then bought a pc years later to play different games. so thanks for commenting i guess?
niah Aug 24, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
Im usually a spirit/plague main which are two of the strongest killers in the game in my opinion but i branched out before this meta and ive discovered that the best countering build so far is BBQ, Jolt, Merciless, and sloppy, with some kind of exhaustion add on. (ex. for pig i use the slow-release toxin which makes survivors exhausted while they have a trap on their head.)
Truth seeker (Banned) Aug 24, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by Bunny Mimi:
Lol, pop got nerfed? so just going to ignore the buff it got to have even more regression than it had before the nerf?
Pop got destroy when it got nerf in the 6.1 patch no amount of buff will make that perk good unless they revert the nerf and make it just like it was before
ANDERSU (Banned) Aug 24, 2023 @ 7:55pm 
play blight and tunnel one dude until he dies, thats all
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Date Posted: Aug 23, 2023 @ 9:40pm
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