Can they finally remove Garden of Joy?

[Smoothie]

Seriously, what is the point of keeping this trash map in game? No, dumb part of survivor mains category who find this stupid main building and the fact you can run half of the map on connected loops perfectly fine won't be treated seriously. I can stand Haddonfield or even Crotus Penn, but this piece of sh- gives me serious brain aunerysm.

[Smoothie]

Oh, and pls do the same to Midwich and RPD. But Garden of Joy first.

[miketheratguy]

I love every map that's been mentioned here. I'll take 'em any time, on either side. Not everyone wants to play on fifteen variants of Badham or "Murky junk field #603"

[Smoothie]

Originally posted by miketheratguy:

I love every map that's been mentioned here. I'll take 'em any time, on either side. Not everyone wants to play on fifteen variants of Badham or "Murky junk field #603"

Try some Trapper on Garden of Joy then

[Dakota]

yea I hate garden of joy on both roles lol

not sure if I'm just bad or rng but I can never survive on it as survivor or get kills as killer

rpd and midwich I feel are fine although I'm evidently one of the crazy people who liked the original rpd map

[Smoothie]

Originally posted by Dakota:

yea I hate garden of joy on both roles lol

not sure if I'm just bad or rng but I can never survive on it as survivor or get kills as killer

rpd and midwich I feel are fine although I'm evidently one of the crazy people who liked the original rpd map

Getting kills on Garden of Joy is painful, this map is huge and has some of the most bs conects you can have in this game, even Otz once had a mini rant about shack-jungle gym-filler pallets combo. And I mentioned other two because of the following: Midwich is small and can be abused by some killers like Nurse or Artist, and on top of that the layout is just dumb, 2-floors square with 2 ways to go up or down and one hidden with breakable walls. RPD is confusing to navigate on at times, is pain in the arse for some killers + holding a 3-gen on this map, especially with our newest 2 additions to the killer roster is disgusting. You pretty much have two guaranteed gens in main + one somewhere close. And after you get a god pallet and desk loop pallet, you just get yourself a nice dead zone.

[· Irongal]

　No, we need every maps possible, even the bad one. For variety sake, you know.

　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
　

[Smoothie]

Originally posted by Sanctum:

No, we need every maps possible, even the bad one. For variety sake, you know.

　　　　　　　　　　　　　　:transcendentalmeowie:

variety is fine, bs is not; just make better maps

[Infrasound]

Borgo of RED sauce is worse

[Smoothie]

Originally posted by RPD Door open ach pls :>:

Borgo of RED sauce is worse

I wouldn't say it's worse, but it follows some rules BHVR made with making of Garden of Joy

[Gianpi]

Rework joy, rpd, midwich and the game. I honestly have no idea how The game is still in a pallet simulator status after all those years

[Voidlines]

Might be a bad opinion of mine but I feel like Garden of Joy is very hit or miss depending on who the killer is.

And I actually enjoy RPD on either side. So I might be the weird one here.

[￭ Yuri ￭]

the only problem with the garden is the main house when the variant opens with 2 god windows on the ground floor (the one in the kitchen which is always open and the one at the front of the house, when it doesn't come with the pallet inside).

In terms of loop and size, I think mother's dwelling is much worse, especially when the main building's loop is born with the windows open and the basement in the middle, only the window that has the stone in the middle is worse than any godwindows from garden of joy, besides to have the same number of pallets connected.

I have no problem with indoors map, I really like rpd and midwich in both roles.

The game (gideon) if they decide to rework, they will need to add windows on the map to reduce the deadzones to replace pallets, I don't know if the people will like it very much.

[Paulo Ramos]

Originally posted by Gianpi:

Rework joy, rpd, midwich and the game. I honestly have no idea how The game is still in a pallet simulator status after all those years

No windows at second floor, only 3 loops with windows at first floor. Easy to create dead zones.

[Generic Fodder]

Originally posted by Gianpi:

The game is still in a pallet simulator status after all those years

Shoebox map, consequently the pallets have to be there to create something to slow killers down.

It is convenient for any pallet related challenges though.

[Broccoli & Cheese]

Garden of Joy is a modern version of old Crow map for killers, even a Blight cannot do anything.

- 4 really strong windows in the house, 2 bottom 2 above.
- Mazes in front of the map, loops to loops and next to a shack and car park.
- Left side one strong structure connects to greenhouse and several pallets
- Right side several strong pallets and a decent structure
- Back of the house dead zone
- Map size is acceptable