Onryo nerf when?

[Ice_Tea_Zero]

Playing against her is the worst expirence since old Legion. The fact she can mori you with zero hooks is too OP and just broken game mechanics. The rework overbuffed her. It's forever Freddy all over again.

[￭ Yuri ￭]

I can't tell you what they're doing, but I hope they're collecting more data before any adjustments are made.

At least I hope to believe that than simply believe they swept the problem under the rug, as it was with the SM rework that made she more broken and efficient than she was before around 3-gen with passive speed, the same with sadako around bad designs like tunneling and making game very early around 1v3 (even making slugging a little less attractive, but almost same thing, but the feel is that they replaced one bad thing with another worse)

[Zelph]

She isn't really over buffed. People just want to play against her normally, which doesn't really work. Holding a tape makes it so her teleport doesn't add condemn. If the whole team does that, then her teleport has very little impact. Play safe, and she is just another m1 killer.

[Spud the Spud]

Originally posted by Zelph:

She isn't really over buffed. People just want to play against her normally, which doesn't really work. Holding a tape makes it so her teleport doesn't add condemn. If the whole team does that, then her teleport has very little impact. Play safe, and she is just another m1 killer.

With incredible pressure across the entire map.

[Doritodio]

You can literally grab a tape from any TV at start of match and stick to doing gens. Unless she M1's you, your condemn status won't be building up every time she teleports. She isn't that strong.

[Grug]

Originally posted by Spud the Spud:

Originally posted by Zelph:

She isn't really over buffed. People just want to play against her normally, which doesn't really work. Holding a tape makes it so her teleport doesn't add condemn. If the whole team does that, then her teleport has very little impact. Play safe, and she is just another m1 killer.

With incredible pressure across the entire map.

Yeah thats her power. Bad in chase but can slow the game and create pressure other ways.

[￭ Yuri ￭]

Originally posted by pls be competent:

You can literally grab a tape from any TV at start of match and stick to doing gens. Unless she M1's you, your condemn status won't be building up every time she teleports. She isn't that strong.

the people already know this, the problem is if she zones you by giving tp after leaving injured, not letting you decrease the condenm bar and still buying time by disturbing the surrounding team, something that other killers focusing 100% on tunneling, cannot do

[Konran]

get good

[Kramer]

[b[ If low or no condemn [/b]
Get tape
Hold tape

[b[ If mid or max condemn [/b]
Get tape
move tape

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she is just an m1 and not that hard to loop

[EVIL J0RDAN]

bro just pick up the freackin' tapes

[Rаndo]

She's a pubstomper killer, blame either yourself or your teammates for not knowing how to properly counter her.

She has one of the lowest kill rates in the top 5% MMR, but one of the highest in general in all MMR.

[Truth seeker]

She dont need any nerf if they nerf her it should be the iri addon apart from that shes weak in chase but she have good pressure its legit the definition of giving a survivor a second objectif.

[60mph gorilla]

Originally posted by ￭ Yuri ￭:

I can't tell you what they're doing, but I hope they're collecting more data before any adjustments are made.

At least I hope to believe that than simply believe they swept the problem under the rug, as it was with the SM rework that made she more broken and efficient than she was before around 3-gen with passive speed, the same with sadako around bad designs like tunneling and making game very early around 1v3 (even making slugging a little less attractive, but almost same thing, but the feel is that they replaced one bad thing with another worse)

It has been proven their data is mostly jack and crap. She is going to get the nerf hammer 100% because survivors just simply can't adapt and learn to pick up a tape at the start. The coddling will always continue.

[￭ Yuri ￭]

Originally posted by Giant Feeble Lard Baby:

Originally posted by ￭ Yuri ￭:

I can't tell you what they're doing, but I hope they're collecting more data before any adjustments are made.

At least I hope to believe that than simply believe they swept the problem under the rug, as it was with the SM rework that made she more broken and efficient than she was before around 3-gen with passive speed, the same with sadako around bad designs like tunneling and making game very early around 1v3 (even making slugging a little less attractive, but almost same thing, but the feel is that they replaced one bad thing with another worse)

It has been proven their data is mostly jack and crap. She is going to get the nerf hammer 100% because survivors just simply can't adapt and learn to pick up a tape at the start. The coddling will always continue.

I don't know what criteria you used to say that the official stats are "crap", because things that apparently don't match reality depend on many factors that we are not even aware of, such as mmr cap and matchmaking, stats counting dcs and even % of full lobbies SoloQ in all mmrs.

And as I said above, it's not an adaptation, it's a lack of counter around exploiting tunneling with tape and zoning tp with condemn, there's nothing to do, and people kept repeating that the rework had made her worse in echo-chamber, even after the official launch on the live server, when in practice this was denied in a little time.

The shortcut would at the very least remove condemn on tape hits and replace it with condemn the person with the tape on hooks, giving the same stacks to all survivors.

[Grug]

Originally posted by ￭ Yuri ￭:

Originally posted by Giant Feeble Lard Baby:

It has been proven their data is mostly jack and crap. She is going to get the nerf hammer 100% because survivors just simply can't adapt and learn to pick up a tape at the start. The coddling will always continue.

I don't know what criteria you used to say that the official stats are "crap", because things that apparently don't match reality depend on many factors that we are not even aware of, such as mmr cap and matchmaking, stats counting dcs and even % of full lobbies SoloQ in all mmrs.

And as I said above, it's not an adaptation, it's a lack of counter around exploiting tunneling with tape and zoning tp with condemn, there's nothing to do, and people kept repeating that the rework had made her worse in echo-chamber, even after the official launch on the live server, when in practice this was denied in a little time.

The shortcut would at the very least remove condemn on tape hits and replace it with condemn the person with the tape on hooks, giving the same stacks to all survivors.

Tunneling isnt an exploit. Its literally just an effective way to win. Just like how you guys sit on gens when you can

[Michel Baie]

Originally posted by Kramer:

[b[ If low or no condemn [/b]
Get tape
Hold tape

[b[ If mid or max condemn [/b]
Get tape
move tape

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she is just an m1 and not that hard to loop

Yet, it goes way over the head of most survivors.

I guess switching to killer and read the Onryo's power description of her power is too hard (let alone googling the wiki)