The Singularity Is Not Very Map Dependent

[4500BeesInATrenchCoat]

it is an undeniable fact that he is map dependent but i think people are greatly exaggerating to what degree he is map dependent. for every really bad map (toba landing, red forest, larrys) there 2 really good maps (the entire realm coldwind farms, the entire realm autohaven wreckers, both the rpd maps, etc) and most maps that have not yet been mentioned lean more towards being good for him. i have not played him much only gotten him up to p8 so if there are more experienced players who know why i am wrong please let me know

[Mors_Indecepta]

Of all the things to criticize about his power, map dependence is definitely low on the list.
There are accepted killers who are WAY more map dependent than Hux.
Not to say he's not bad, though. Because he is. Objectively.

[Max]

i literally still havent even looked at what that killer does, i have no idea and ive played against it like a dozen times, i get i can emp the thing on my back or other peoples backs or things stuck to things etc, no idea what benefit or detriment those things are representing to me though honestly

also i will say though he seems very fast and i dont know why

[4500BeesInATrenchCoat]

Originally posted by TheMetalOne:

Of all the things to criticize about his power, map dependence is definitely low on the list.
There are accepted killers who are WAY more map dependent than Hux.
Not to say he's not bad, though. Because he is. Objectively.

hux is not bad he is decent-good similar power wise to like a cenobite imo

[Mors_Indecepta]

Originally posted by 4500BeesInATrenchCoat:

Originally posted by TheMetalOne:

Of all the things to criticize about his power, map dependence is definitely low on the list.
There are accepted killers who are WAY more map dependent than Hux.
Not to say he's not bad, though. Because he is. Objectively.

hux is not bad he is decent-good similar power wise to like a cenobite imo

I mean, he has the lowest kill-rate of all the killers. Playing him feels like you have to work harder to do things other killers can do with a button-press.

[Hex: Nancy Pelosi]

Worst killer in the game. Next post.

[AsianGirlLover]

People still play Hux? Good for you, man. Idk how you can tolerate it.

[4500BeesInATrenchCoat]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

People still play Hux? Good for you, man. Idk how you can tolerate it.

wdym?

[Hex: Nancy Pelosi]

Originally posted by 4500BeesInATrenchCoat:

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

People still play Hux? Good for you, man. Idk how you can tolerate it.

wdym?

He's the worst killer in the game, kid. Try to keep up.

[4500BeesInATrenchCoat]

Originally posted by Boon: Shag Me:

Originally posted by 4500BeesInATrenchCoat:

wdym?

He's the worst killer in the game, kid. Try to keep up.

that is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiotic and i wasnt gonna be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ abt someones opinion but your whole condescending attitude is so irritating so let me make this clear you are wrong objectively and coming to that conclusion it is quite honestly a very apparent skill issue. if you are referring to him having the lowest kill rate in the game that is because he is new and hard and people dont really play him. trapper is the worst killer by far and you are absurdly dumb to suggest otherwise especially when talking about a killer who isnt bad. please never ever have an opinion ever again

[Max]

Originally posted by 4500BeesInATrenchCoat:

Originally posted by Boon: Shag Me:

He's the worst killer in the game, kid. Try to keep up.

that is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiotic and i wasnt gonna be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ abt someones opinion but your whole condescending attitude is so irritating so let me make this clear you are wrong objectively and coming to that conclusion it is quite honestly a very apparent skill issue. if you are referring to him having the lowest kill rate in the game that is because he is new and hard and people dont really play him. trapper is the worst killer by far and you are absurdly dumb to suggest otherwise especially when talking about a killer who isnt bad. please never ever have an opinion ever again

youre not wrong he has exclusively trash takes; hes actually probably not worth typing this many words about. like as a human

[4500BeesInATrenchCoat]

Originally posted by Max:

Originally posted by 4500BeesInATrenchCoat:

that is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiotic and i wasnt gonna be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ abt someones opinion but your whole condescending attitude is so irritating so let me make this clear you are wrong objectively and coming to that conclusion it is quite honestly a very apparent skill issue. if you are referring to him having the lowest kill rate in the game that is because he is new and hard and people dont really play him. trapper is the worst killer by far and you are absurdly dumb to suggest otherwise especially when talking about a killer who isnt bad. please never ever have an opinion ever again

youre not wrong he has exclusively trash takes; hes actually probably not worth typing this many words about. like as a human

while i agree its not worth wasting your energy arguing with someone who is not worth arguing with i quite enjoy the act of arguing no matter what the context so while i appreciate the advice i will continue to do so. also i didnt write that many words if i had to guess it is under 100

[Harmonica]

Sure some killers have bad maps and there's nothing they can do to help that, whereas even on Singularities worse maps, the cameras will still do something. The trouble is that I think that their 'good maps' are not good enough compared to any other killers.

Like RPD because of the huge awkward travel distances for survivors is decent for singularity but at the same time big whoop you teleport and speed boosted for a very short time, survivors still have to be podded, which is avoidable and they can hold EMPs to negate it, and you're still going to get bullied by the pretty safe loops and palettes on that map. And good luck trying to gain any advantage by teleporting during a loop, I don't think this works often enough in reality to bother trying it.

Originally posted by Max:

i literally still havent even looked at what that killer does, i have no idea and ive played against it like a dozen times, i get i can emp the thing on my back or other peoples backs or things stuck to things etc, no idea what benefit or detriment those things are representing to me though honestly

also i will say though he seems very fast and i dont know why

They place cameras to defend areas. Cameras allow them to teleport to podded survivors, and they are given a speed boost when doing so (for a very short time period, but longer if they've teleported multiple times in succession).

EMP the cameras to stop them using them to teleport onto you (after putting the things on your back). Always pick one up so they can start regenerating (at the crate). Other than that basically save them until you need to work on a gen that they have a camera watching, or you're trying to heal someone with a pod on them. Ideally use them when you can nuke a pod and a camera at the same time.

Really the only thing you need to be aware of is being injured and if you or the healer is podded, then you're quite likely to get teleported onto if they can see you (perks like Nurse's Calling can make it hard to heal safely... but they're still much more awkward than Demo or Dredge in that aspect).

Basically they can do a bunch of stuff but not particularly powerful at any of it, unlike other killers who can do less but do it well.

[Max]

Originally posted by Harmonica:

Originally posted by Max:

i literally still havent even looked at what that killer does, i have no idea and ive played against it like a dozen times, i get i can emp the thing on my back or other peoples backs or things stuck to things etc, no idea what benefit or detriment those things are representing to me though honestly

also i will say though he seems very fast and i dont know why

They place cameras to defend areas. Cameras allow them to teleport to podded survivors, and they are given a speed boost when doing so (for a very short time period, but longer if they've teleported multiple times in succession).

EMP the cameras to stop them using them to teleport onto you (after putting the things on your back). Always pick one up so they can start regenerating (at the crate). Other than that basically save them until you need to work on a gen that they have a camera watching, or you're trying to heal someone with a pod on them. Ideally use them when you can nuke a pod and a camera at the same time.

Really the only thing you need to be aware of is being injured and if you or the healer is podded, then you're quite likely to get teleported onto if they can see you (perks like Nurse's Calling can make it hard to heal safely... but they're still much more awkward than Demo or Dredge in that aspect).

Basically they can do a bunch of stuff but not particularly powerful at any of it, unlike other killers who can do less but do it well.

this is all great information, thank you very much

honestly i've just been brute forcing it and learning basically nothing about it, i never see skull merchant but ive missed her details as well (though I will just go read up on her)

hes a very visible character, kind of hard to loop from my experience; i do prefer sidequest killers to antiloop killers though and I feel like hes more of a sidequest boy and I'm largely for that

[Harmonica]

Originally posted by Max:

this is all great information, thank you very much

honestly i've just been brute forcing it and learning basically nothing about it, i never see skull merchant but ive missed her details as well (though I will just go read up on her)

hes a very visible character, kind of hard to loop from my experience; i do prefer sidequest killers to antiloop killers though and I feel like hes more of a sidequest boy and I'm largely for that

I tend to agree but I think they need to give them more to the sidequest or better payoffs, because their setup cost is pretty high for little reward right now. For example after having slipstreamed (teleported) n survivors something could happen, maybe they get upgraded abilities much like other killers, or maybe if all survivors are podded at the same time something happens. Maybe being podded drains your hook timer or something. Right now basically just m1 killer with better than average gen patrol ability.

[Khryst]

Thing is you have to remember, the majority of the internet deals in nothing but absolutes.

Middle ground, average, workable, decent, or usable, etc. are instantly flagged by the loudest voices on the internet as "broken, trash, useless, etc."

He's new, still being learned by alot, he's not the most powerful, he's not just run around hit button win, easy to play.

Which instantly makes him "hated". There are some adjustments I'd like to see sure (mostly involving slipstream as right now it feels not clunky but something off when you use it) but he's nowhere near the worst. I do think Skull Merchant is a superior version of him in the things they have in common, but he's just different "enough", that it does change how you have to play them.