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blacksandwich (已封禁) 2022 年 12 月 30 日 上午 7:15
why is playing killer so ez to win?
I literally bought this game 2 days ago and a few killer dlcs and I win 80% of killer matches and lose more than half of the matches I play as survivor.
Only time I lost consistently as killer was the first few hours when i installed the game where I didnt even know what the boom sound on a generator was. The survivors just repaired all of them and escaped without me even realizing what was going on. But now I just patrol the generators and when I see a survivor I do a lunge attack and in 10 mins theyre all dead. Is it supposed to be this ez? I don't camp hooked survivors or camp generators.

Edit : After 100 hours of gameplay im in high mmr and now the lobbies are sweatfests. not complaining tho

Edit 2 : After 200 hours im getting constantly matched against survivors that have 1k+ hours and simply chasing any one of them costs me at least 1 gen. Game is 100% survivor sided at the higher level mmr no doubt about it. Trash game. Shame...
最后由 blacksandwich 编辑于; 2023 年 1 月 20 日 上午 7:06
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DragonPunched 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 2:46 
引用自 blacksandwich
I literally bought this game 2 days ago and a few killer dlcs and I win 80% of killer matches and lose more than half of the matches I play as survivor.
Only time I lost consistently as killer was the first few hours when i installed the game where I didnt even know what the boom sound on a generator was. The survivors just repaired all of them and escaped without me even realizing what was going on. But now I just patrol the generators and when I see a survivor I do a lunge attack and in 10 mins theyre all dead. Is it supposed to be this ez? I don't camp hooked survivors or camp generators.

Edit : After 100 hours of gameplay im in high mmr and now the lobbies are sweatfests. not complaining tho
The game has an MMR ranking system when you get later into it you'll get more teams. Solo Q for survivor is awful and way weaker then groups./
LittleEtherKitty 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 2:50 
引用自 Nuyuu
引用自 LotusBlade
They will predrop every pallet, forcing you to break all 35 of them and that alone will take 3 minutes, but don't forger, they will finish gens in those 3 minutes.
what map has 35 pallets, i need to know.... also where do you find a team as a solo q to finish gens for even the first 10 minutes, im asking for school :)
As for the solo queue sweat teams, you have to go to high mmr and have some good luck.
CEO of Genrush 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 Bannith
引用自 Nuyuu
what map has 35 pallets, i need to know.... also where do you find a team as a solo q to finish gens for even the first 10 minutes, im asking for school :)
The map with the most pallets was/is? the shattered square at 36. New map kinda set records for being just overall an awful map in regards to practically everything. Neat design though.
According to otz, shattered square has up to 19 pallets. The most pallets is on The Game (25).
LittleEtherKitty 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 2:57 
引用自 CEO of genrush
引用自 Bannith
The map with the most pallets was/is? the shattered square at 36. New map kinda set records for being just overall an awful map in regards to practically everything. Neat design though.
According to otz, shattered square has up to 19 pallets. The most pallets is on The Game (25).
I've got a break 25 pallets challenge done on the game, with at least 1 pallet left.
Bannith 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 3:04 
引用自 CEO of genrush
引用自 Bannith
The map with the most pallets was/is? the shattered square at 36. New map kinda set records for being just overall an awful map in regards to practically everything. Neat design though.
According to otz, shattered square has up to 19 pallets. The most pallets is on The Game (25).
Probably got fixed by now hence the "is?". Map was completely bonkers on release lol.
Nuyuu 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 3:15 
引用自 Bannith
引用自 Nuyuu
what map has 35 pallets, i need to know.... also where do you find a team as a solo q to finish gens for even the first 10 minutes, im asking for school :)
The map with the most pallets was/is? the shattered square at 36. New map kinda set records for being just overall an awful map in regards to practically everything. Neat design though.
so in theory, if i go shattered square and loop at least 1-2 times on every pallet I win? surely pallets stop a nurse, huntress and nemesis
Vampire Girl 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 4:02 
引用自 Chaos
Because survivors don't help their teammates 95% of the time or make bad plays.

I know that feeling, the amount of times I have died on first hook with survivors just hiding.
Bannith 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 4:03 
引用自 Nuyuu
引用自 Bannith
The map with the most pallets was/is? the shattered square at 36. New map kinda set records for being just overall an awful map in regards to practically everything. Neat design though.
so in theory, if i go shattered square and loop at least 1-2 times on every pallet I win? surely pallets stop a nurse, huntress and nemesis
Bro... where did I say that? A single good loop on a pallet can take upwards of 30 seconds though so unless your just randomly predropping instantly yes you could win fairly easily if they solely followed you. Nurse is a special case, Huntress can be dodged and Nemesis can be looped in high cover and baited out.
They are finally nerfing nurse blinks(No longer basic attacks) a little and hopefully they pull back on the weird addons that seem to be straight buffs. Just don't understand why you attacked me when all I did originally is answer your question.

Edit: As for clarity on the looping argument your trying to have. This is HEAVILY dependent on your team as well. If your team isn't working on gens you could loop for weeks solid and nothing would get done. Survivors have to understand that all 4 on that side of the game have to have some relative understanding of the goal and work together to get stuff done.
最后由 Bannith 编辑于; 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 4:05
♥♥♥♥ marijuana 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 4:52 
Because I didn't play this game as a survivor
Munqaxus (已封禁) 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:17 
引用自 LittleEtherKitty
引用自 Munqaxus

Your math is incorrect.

Mathematically speaking, a 60% kill-rate is a 60% win-rate "on average". A 60% kill-rate means a killer is winning, "on average", 60 out of 100 games.

Your math makes no sense.

This is coming from someone who has a bachelor of science in programming/mathematics and is a system administrator.
The appeal to authority fallacy. Let's use 100 games for this math, to make conversions to % easier. 240 survs are sacrificed.
240/3(minimum required kills for a win)=80% wins maximum possible wins.
240/2(maximum number of kills allowed, before a win)=100 with a remainder of 40.
40/2(the remaining possible survs in a game, after a tie)=20% minimum possible wins.
Averaging these 2 numbers gives us an average of 50% win rate.

Let's start this from the beginning, because there is a failure to communicate here.

1st - What are you using as a win condition for killer?
2nd - Where did you get this information? Is this from a reputable source? The reason I ask is because none of your calculations make traditional mathematical sense. That doesn't necessarily mean your wrong because I do know that sometimes BHVR uses bizarre calculations to arrive at certain numbers like the healing speed of medkits.

Next, let me ask you some questions on how you are arriving at these calculations.
1. How does 240/3 = 80%. I know that 240/3 = 80, but that's not how you calculate a percentage in math.
2. How does 240/2 = 100 with a remainder of 40. In traditional math 240/2 = 120 with no remainders.
3. Again, how are you getting a percentage by 40/2. That's not 20%, that's just 20.
最后由 Munqaxus 编辑于; 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:23
LittleEtherKitty 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:31 
引用自 Munqaxus
引用自 LittleEtherKitty
The appeal to authority fallacy. Let's use 100 games for this math, to make conversions to % easier. 240 survs are sacrificed.
240/3(minimum required kills for a win)=80% wins maximum possible wins.
240/2(maximum number of kills allowed, before a win)=100 with a remainder of 40.
40/2(the remaining possible survs in a game, after a tie)=20% minimum possible wins.
Averaging these 2 numbers gives us an average of 50% win rate.

Let's start this from the beginning.

1st - What are you using as a win condition for killer?
2nd - Where did you get this information? Is this from a reputable source?

Next, let me ask you some questions on how you are arriving at these answers.
1. How does 240/3 = 80%. I know that 240/3 = 80, but that's not how you get a percentage in math.
2. How does 240/2 = 100 with a remainder of 40. Wouldn't 240/2 = 120 with no remainders.
3. Again, how are you getting a percentage by 40/2. That's not 20%, that's just 20.
1.1. MMR system. 2k is a tie, above is a win, and below is a loss.
1.2. The DBD devs, but I'm bad with internet searching, so I'll probably be a bit, getting it for you.

2.1. The 80 is how man games you can get 3k in, and since we're using 100 games for easy conversion, that's an 80% win capability.
2.2. Again, we're finding the amount of games we can do this in, so 100 is our max, giving us a remainder of 40.
2.3. The remainder, 40, is then divided by the number of available survs we have to kill, in each game, which is 2, to find out what the least amount of wins possible, which is 20 games being the smallest. 20% is the min and 80% is the max.

Hopefully this clears things up, I tend to be bad at explaining things.
76561199466516323 (已封禁) 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:42 
引用自 LittleEtherKitty
引用自 Annie
Yes also keep in mind that almost every game has a big chance to have suicide on hook even though the match went just fine. It happens when killer hooks penultimate survivor and then going for the last one. While at it the previous survivor killer hooked likely to suicide on the hook cause there s no point to struggle as the game already over for survivors.
Not really, I've had comeback games from such a situation. You'll never succeed at something if you give up, every time.
Even if you manage to unhook yourself on your own no one is doing gens the other survivor is hooked your chase doesnt matter.
LittleEtherKitty 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:44 
引用自 Annie
引用自 LittleEtherKitty
Not really, I've had comeback games from such a situation. You'll never succeed at something if you give up, every time.
Even if you manage to unhook yourself on your own no one is doing gens the other survivor is hooked your chase doesnt matter.
I was the only unhooked, and I was able to stealth unhook and get everyone back to full. Sure, it's not easy, but it's possible.
76561199466516323 (已封禁) 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:51 
引用自 LittleEtherKitty
引用自 Annie
Even if you manage to unhook yourself on your own no one is doing gens the other survivor is hooked your chase doesnt matter.
I was the only unhooked, and I was able to stealth unhook and get everyone back to full. Sure, it's not easy, but it's possible.
Then you didn't understand what I meant in my first post. Probably because you not that good as killer and don't know how to snowball survivors.
LittleEtherKitty 2023 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:57 
引用自 Annie
引用自 LittleEtherKitty
I was the only unhooked, and I was able to stealth unhook and get everyone back to full. Sure, it's not easy, but it's possible.
Then you didn't understand what I meant in my first post. Probably because you not that good as killer and don't know how to snowball survivors.


引用自 Annie
引用自 Munqaxus

Patch 6.1 and the April 20th changes to matchmaking which caused noob survivorsto be placed with experienced survivors, probably was the last nail in DBD's coffin. Especially since the developers are ignoring the massive amounts of DCs and Suicides-on-hook, that indicate survivors aren't having fun. You know, the playerbase that makes up 4/5ths of this game.

Video game players are not going to accept a 40% escape rate. That's just ridiculous. Especially when you consider how much lower that 40% escape rate is when you start adding in games where players DC.
Yes also keep in mind that almost every game has a big chance to have suicide on hook even though the match went just fine. It happens when killer hooks penultimate survivor and then going for the last one. While at it the previous survivor killer hooked likely to suicide on the hook cause there s no point to struggle as the game already over for survivors.
This one? From my understanding, it means there's 2 survs on hook, one of which was just hooked, and one being hunted. Besides that, how does my understanding of your wording effect my capabilities to play?
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