why is playing killer so ez to win?

[blacksandwich]

I literally bought this game 2 days ago and a few killer dlcs and I win 80% of killer matches and lose more than half of the matches I play as survivor.
Only time I lost consistently as killer was the first few hours when i installed the game where I didnt even know what the boom sound on a generator was. The survivors just repaired all of them and escaped without me even realizing what was going on. But now I just patrol the generators and when I see a survivor I do a lunge attack and in 10 mins theyre all dead. Is it supposed to be this ez? I don't camp hooked survivors or camp generators.

Edit : After 100 hours of gameplay im in high mmr and now the lobbies are sweatfests. not complaining tho

Edit 2 : After 200 hours im getting constantly matched against survivors that have 1k+ hours and simply chasing any one of them costs me at least 1 gen. Game is 100% survivor sided at the higher level mmr no doubt about it. Trash game. Shame...

[Truth seeker]

blacksandwich の投稿を引用：

BelieveinWaheed.TTV の投稿を引用：

Question 1, are you high rank, question 2. Do you use anyone other then blight or nurse?

im iri 1 from a week ago . dont own blight . i avoid playing with nurse since its practically cheating

Take the killer you play and play after midnight you will have a challenge.

If you think nusre is close to cheating never play in a swf with comm you legit unlock all the aura perk and wallhack XD

[LittleEtherKitty]

MeMeSeeKu TTV の投稿を引用：

Yall really dont know how to read data... lol
60% win rate doesnt mean a 40% chance to win LMFAO

It's the kill rate, not the win rate. We don't have win rate info.

[Bannith]

LittleEtherKitty の投稿を引用：

Bannith の投稿を引用：

Another person who just tries to use streamers as the basis of their entire argument while simultaneously not knowing how the statistics we have work? I'll be the first to admit we have limited information and if their going to give us kill rates we need proper breakdowns of a lot of stuff. That doesn't excuse saying obviously false things and playing them off as fact.
You can't kill a portion of a survivor it's an all or nothing game that 60% kill rate amounts to a 2.4 kill ratio which is 40% chance to get 3k or a win in a balanced match. On average 2 people are supposed to die as that's a 50/50 match but if it's a flat 50% kill rate it results in nearly no chance for a killer to win. Kill rates are based on the whole team this is not a 1v1 game it's an asymmetrically balanced 4v1.
Crazy to me how anyone can think this game would even be alive if killers were winning 80% of the matches under the current system. Also sorry if this comes off against you Ether it's more as an addition/addressing the person your replying to.

I was thinking you were confused, until I realized you weren't trying to say I was wrong.

Ya sorry was half asleep and wanted to clarify at the end as I realized how it could come off and was too lazy to reformat the whole mess lol...

[LittleEtherKitty]

Bannith の投稿を引用：

LittleEtherKitty の投稿を引用：

I was thinking you were confused, until I realized you weren't trying to say I was wrong.

Ya sorry was half asleep and wanted to clarify at the end as I realized how it could come off and was too lazy to reformat the whole mess lol...

Fair enough, lol.

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Sluzzy の投稿を引用：

LittleEtherKitty の投稿を引用：

High mmr killers have nearly the same kill rate as the rest of the game, and that averages out to ~50% win rate. Who's telling you killers win non-stop at high mmr? And before you mention the win streak players, there's also win streak survs hitting 200 wins in a row.

Who says they are winning 50%? BHVR data is flawed and skewed. Watch any killer main and they never lose. It's not even a game, just a noob stomp every game. MMR really doesn't mean anything.

That because the game is killer sided at it's core. Devs also said they want killers to be overpowered so what did you expect?

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Khelendrose の投稿を引用：

Keep playing, I can't wait to see you change your tune in a few weeks. lol

Why? Maybe op is good at killer unlike you.

[Munqaxus]

Annie の投稿を引用：

Sluzzy の投稿を引用：

Who says they are winning 50%? BHVR data is flawed and skewed. Watch any killer main and they never lose. It's not even a game, just a noob stomp every game. MMR really doesn't mean anything.

That because the game is killer sided at it's core. Devs also said they want killers to be overpowered so what did you expect?

Patch 6.1 and the April 20th changes to matchmaking which caused noob survivorsto be placed with experienced survivors, probably was the last nail in DBD's coffin. Especially since the developers are ignoring the massive amounts of DCs and Suicides-on-hook, that indicate survivors aren't having fun. You know, the playerbase that makes up 4/5ths of this game.

Video game players are not going to accept a 40% escape rate. That's just ridiculous. Especially when you consider how much lower that 40% escape rate is when you start adding in games where players DC.

[AnimeCatGirl]

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Annie の投稿を引用：

That because the game is killer sided at it's core. Devs also said they want killers to be overpowered so what did you expect?

Patch 6.1 and the April 20th changes to matchmaking which caused noob survivorsto be placed with experienced survivors, probably was the last nail in DBD's coffin. Especially since the developers are ignoring the massive amounts of DCs and Suicides-on-hook, that indicate survivors aren't having fun. You know, the playerbase that makes up 4/5ths of this game.

Video game players are not going to accept a 40% escape rate. That's just ridiculous. Especially when you consider how much lower that 40% escape rate is when you start adding in games where players DC.

We get it, you're bad at the game. You're on every single post complaining about being terrible at the game.

[Truth seeker]

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Annie の投稿を引用：

That because the game is killer sided at it's core. Devs also said they want killers to be overpowered so what did you expect?

Patch 6.1 and the April 20th changes to matchmaking which caused noob survivorsto be placed with experienced survivors, probably was the last nail in DBD's coffin. Especially since the developers are ignoring the massive amounts of DCs and Suicides-on-hook, that indicate survivors aren't having fun. You know, the playerbase that makes up 4/5ths of this game.

Video game players are not going to accept a 40% escape rate. That's just ridiculous. Especially when you consider how much lower that 40% escape rate is when you start adding in games where players DC.

Dude the april matchmaking change were needed for survivor. You cant have 10 minute queue for a 5 minute match. The change were awful for the good survivor but they were needed.

Dc are ignore for the stats but not the suicide so the kill rate are only at 60% with that many suicide. 40% escape rate mean most match are a draw and most match survivor do 5 gen open the gate and leave.

[Munqaxus]

Truth seeker の投稿を引用：

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Patch 6.1 and the April 20th changes to matchmaking which caused noob survivorsto be placed with experienced survivors, probably was the last nail in DBD's coffin. Especially since the developers are ignoring the massive amounts of DCs and Suicides-on-hook, that indicate survivors aren't having fun. You know, the playerbase that makes up 4/5ths of this game.

Video game players are not going to accept a 40% escape rate. That's just ridiculous. Especially when you consider how much lower that 40% escape rate is when you start adding in games where players DC.

Dude the april matchmaking change were needed for survivor. You cant have 10 minute queue for a 5 minute match. The change were awful for the good survivor but they were needed.

Dc are ignore for the stats but not the suicide so the kill rate are only at 60% with that many suicide. 40% escape rate mean most match are a draw and most match survivor do 5 gen open the gate and leave.

So it would be fair if Killers had a 40% kill rate and Survivors had a 60% escape rate. Ignoring all other factors and what-aboutisms.

[Truth seeker]

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Truth seeker の投稿を引用：

Dude the april matchmaking change were needed for survivor. You cant have 10 minute queue for a 5 minute match. The change were awful for the good survivor but they were needed.

Dc are ignore for the stats but not the suicide so the kill rate are only at 60% with that many suicide. 40% escape rate mean most match are a draw and most match survivor do 5 gen open the gate and leave.

So it would be fair if Killers had a 40% kill rate and Survivors had a 60% escape rate. Ignoring all other factors and what-aboutisms.

No because survivor dont have to interact with the killer to escape while killer are force to interact with the survivor to kill them. A 40% kill rate will mean most killer can only 1k while some can 2k making them lose most of there match and when they dont lose they draw. Playing a game where you know you gonna lose are draw at best dont really push you to play it.

What we need with the kill rate is the stats of the number of hook killer get. We need the stats too for the number of kill killer get not just 60% but 0k 10% 1k 20% etc...

[Munqaxus]

Truth seeker の投稿を引用：

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

So it would be fair if Killers had a 40% kill rate and Survivors had a 60% escape rate. Ignoring all other factors and what-aboutisms.

No because survivor dont have to interact with the killer to escape while killer are force to interact with the survivor to kill them. A 40% kill rate will mean most killer can only 1k while some can 2k making them lose most of there match and when they dont lose they draw. Playing a game where you know you gonna lose are draw at best dont really push you to play it.

What we need with the kill rate is the stats of the number of hook killer get. We need the stats too for the number of kill killer get not just 60% but 0k 10% 1k 20% etc...

Exactly. You said it yourself. It's unfair to have one side at 40% and one side at 60%.

A 40% escape rate means that a survivor can only escape 1 time while some can only escape 2 times, mean you lose most matches.

You words, not mine.

[Truth seeker]

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Truth seeker の投稿を引用：

No because survivor dont have to interact with the killer to escape while killer are force to interact with the survivor to kill them. A 40% kill rate will mean most killer can only 1k while some can 2k making them lose most of there match and when they dont lose they draw. Playing a game where you know you gonna lose are draw at best dont really push you to play it.

What we need with the kill rate is the stats of the number of hook killer get. We need the stats too for the number of kill killer get not just 60% but 0k 10% 1k 20% etc...

Exactly. You said it yourself. It's unfair to have one side at 40% and one side at 60%.

A 40% escape rate means that a survivor can only escape 1 time while some can only escape 2 times, mean you lose most matches.

You words, not mine.

I know but it cant be 50/50 because you wont convince any killer to play if you tell them if you sweat enough you will probably get a draw. For survivor its not the same a draw meaning 2 escape mean you did all your objectif for me that a win on the survivor side.
But like i said we need more stats to use because the 60% kill rate mean most killer 2k and some 3k but how they get that result are they camping the first guy early enough for them to get a second kill with NoeD making the killer get 2 hook in exchange of 5 gen or they split the pressure and try to 12 hook giving them a 2k. We need info the most that why we cant use those stats for an argument its not solid enough.

Because if we follow those stats the best killer in the game is sadako so why are we nerfing nurse instead of sadako their stats said that. See what i mean when i say the stats are not good enough and cant be use in an argument.

[Munqaxus]

Truth seeker の投稿を引用：

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Exactly. You said it yourself. It's unfair to have one side at 40% and one side at 60%.

A 40% escape rate means that a survivor can only escape 1 time while some can only escape 2 times, mean you lose most matches.

You words, not mine.

I know but it cant be 50/50 because you wont convince any killer to play if you tell them if you sweat enough you will probably get a draw. For survivor its not the same a draw meaning 2 escape mean you did all your objectif for me that a win on the survivor side.
But like i said we need more stats to use because the 60% kill rate mean most killer 2k and some 3k but how they get that result are they camping the first guy early enough for them to get a second kill with NoeD making the killer get 2 hook in exchange of 5 gen or they split the pressure and try to 12 hook giving them a 2k. We need info the most that why we cant use those stats for an argument its not solid enough.

Because if we follow those stats the best killer in the game is sadako so why are we nerfing nurse instead of sadako their stats said that. See what i mean when i say the stats are not good enough and cant be use in an argument.

Killers were playing just fine with a 55% kill rate and it was actually a 51% kill rate right before 6.1. It's after the 6.1 patch that you saw an increase in DCs and Suicides-on-hook, which would indicate that a 40% escape rate for survivors is not good.
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[Truth seeker]

Munqaxus の投稿を引用：

Truth seeker の投稿を引用：

I know but it cant be 50/50 because you wont convince any killer to play if you tell them if you sweat enough you will probably get a draw. For survivor its not the same a draw meaning 2 escape mean you did all your objectif for me that a win on the survivor side.
But like i said we need more stats to use because the 60% kill rate mean most killer 2k and some 3k but how they get that result are they camping the first guy early enough for them to get a second kill with NoeD making the killer get 2 hook in exchange of 5 gen or they split the pressure and try to 12 hook giving them a 2k. We need info the most that why we cant use those stats for an argument its not solid enough.

Because if we follow those stats the best killer in the game is sadako so why are we nerfing nurse instead of sadako their stats said that. See what i mean when i say the stats are not good enough and cant be use in an argument.

Killers were playing just fine with a 55% kill rate and it was actually a 51% kill rate right before 6.1. It's after the 6.1 patch that you saw an increase in DCs and Suicides-on-hook, which would indicate that a 40% escape rate for survivors is not good.
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At 51% kill rate solo survivor were waiting 10 minute in queue and swf were waiting around 20 minute in queue. If you want to go back to that time its fine but for me i prefer my 30 sec queue specially with the new patch that coming my experience as a solo player will become so much better.