Macros for Wiggle?

[TitanK1lls | YouTube.com]

Hello there, does any of you know if macros for wiggle work ? Coz struggle works for me so just asking .

[Three-Headed-Monkey]

i believe so, someone asked a macro related question to the devs in the latest stream and they said something like its fine because you cant exceed a specific wiggle time ... so i guess it works ^^

[Max Is Back]

Theoretically a "wiggle" macro would work just fine and as Three-Headed-Monkey says above, there's a limit on how much you can wiggle. So even if you used a macro that went down to milliseconds you wouldn't actually get out any faster than someone tapping the A and D keys at a fairly measured pace.

However, with two separate anti-cheat mechanisms (VAC and "EasyAntiCheat"), I wouldn't be surprised if a software-based macro tripped one of them. After all, it sits at a very low level and dynamically modifies controller input in real-time. That sort of thing tends to anger most anti-cheat mechanisms.

[Syavar]

I made a wiggle and struggle macro to save stress on my keyboard. It works unreasonably fast (fastest it can without canceling the wiggle animation) and no anti cheat has been tipped on me.

So glad to hear it is allowed since it saves so much stress on my fingers and keyboard

[TitanK1lls | YouTube.com]

Originally posted by Syavar:

I made a wiggle and struggle macro to save stress on my keyboard. It works unreasonably fast (fastest it can without canceling the wiggle animation) and no anti cheat has been tipped on me.

So glad to hear it is allowed since it saves so much stress on my fingers and keyboard

How did u make wiggle macro? Mine doesn't work...i use razer synapse for my chroma blackwidow

[Syavar]

Originally posted by TitanK1lls:

Originally posted by Syavar:

I made a wiggle and struggle macro to save stress on my keyboard. It works unreasonably fast (fastest it can without canceling the wiggle animation) and no anti cheat has been tipped on me.

So glad to hear it is allowed since it saves so much stress on my fingers and keyboard

How did u make wiggle macro? Mine doesn't work...i use razer synapse for my chroma blackwidow

my logitec g700 mouse has software for it that allows macros to be put on buttons when the mouse is plugged in

[TitanK1lls | YouTube.com]

Originally posted by Syavar:

Originally posted by TitanK1lls:

How did u make wiggle macro? Mine doesn't work...i use razer synapse for my chroma blackwidow

my logitec g700 mouse has software for it that allows macros to be put on buttons when the mouse is plugged in

So does my keyboard but my wiggle macro doesn't work,it works on the chat and stuff it goes adadadadadadadadadadadadda but the bar doesn't go full

[Syavar]

See if your macro is working too fast. My macro has .05 sec between press and lift actions, and 10 miliseconds between each repitition. any faster on either value and it breaks the wiggle by skipping imputs

[Grarg]

Originally posted by Taipan:

Originally posted by Syavar:

it saves so much stress on my fingers

which is why it gives you an unfair advantage... say the killer is transporting you over the map with IG3...

who has more chance of wriggling free? macro man or finger wiggler...

of course the macro gives you an advantage...

The same. The wiggling prompt comes up periodically so if you're hitting AD over and over, you'll do as well as a macro.

[Syavar]

Originally posted by Taipan:

Originally posted by Syavar:

it saves so much stress on my fingers

which is why it gives you an unfair advantage... say the killer is transporting you over the map with IG3...

who has more chance of wriggling free? macro man or finger wiggler...

of course the macro gives you an advantage...

I understand and respect your point of view. However, I still intend to use it to save stress on my fingers and keyboard untill I hear the devs no longer support macro use.

I do not know the inner workings of the mechanic, but from what I have hard, macro users and thos without macros can both reach the same wiggle time. This means there is no advantage unless the person who cant use a macro is unable to key-press fast enough to meat the threashhold, or if their fingers get tired or cramp.

That is just my insight/opinion/speculation.

[Solaire of Astora]

Originally posted by TitanK1lls:

Hello there, does any of you know if macros for wiggle work ? Coz struggle works for me so just asking .

I personally use a wiggle and struggle macro and it works fine

[Max Is Back]

Originally posted by Syavar:

I made a wiggle and struggle macro to save stress on my keyboard. It works unreasonably fast (fastest it can without canceling the wiggle animation) and no anti cheat has been tipped on me.

So glad to hear it is allowed since it saves so much stress on my fingers and keyboard

Ah, from your follow-ups I see you've got a G700 - when I mentioned the risk of macros upsetting anti-cheat mechanisms I meant software-based macros which you can program for any keyboard/mouse with software like AutoHotKey or GlovePIE. These actually modify the input from the keyboard/mouse so, for example, you could write a script where you press A on your keyboard and the software modifies it on-the-fly so the operating system sees it as B (or adadadadadadada). Most anti-cheat mechanisms can detect this because the raw input from the device is different to what the operating system sees.

If you've got a keyboard/mouse that supports macros that you upload to the device (e.g. your G700 or TitanK1lls' Razer BlackWidow Chroma), they're hardware-based macros. In other words, the input from the device is literally adadadadadadad (or whatever you programmed it to be). So you're right, this won't trip an anti-cheat mechanism because the raw input is exactly the same as what the operating system sees.

Just wanted to clear that up for the benefit of other readers more than anything - cheers, good gaming!

[LutherMalcolm]

I have one set up On my Razer keyboard

[Aurani]

First thing I did was setup my G11 with macros for wiggling and struggling, I CBA breaking my keyboard just because I want to have any kind of chance to not get dragged off to the meathook. Technology is wonderful ain't it?

[Thiil]

Would be really great if we could get either a "Ok" or "Not ok" from the devs/mods.
A definitive answer, not just a "probably not good, not advised".
I'd love to use AutoHotKey, but i'm afraid of being banned.
On the other hand, i'm also afraid of my expenses on future keyboards from the buttonmashing, not to mention the frustration

[Timon]

I do believe, that anti-cheat work differently than Max Is Back thinks. EAC and VAC working inside game process, scanning it's memory for suspicious modifications. Macro script doesn't exactly injects itself in the game process, which means it doesn't go directly into game process memory, so I can't see why it could trigger EAC ban. Macro - is like a "hook" which grabs your input from mouse/keyboard and simply replaces it with your desired output order.

My personal opinion on macros - they should be allowed, because keyboards purpose is not for button mashing, I dont want to spend more money on new keyboard/mouse.