Decisive Strike is useless. No counters to tunnelling.

[TXI]

Dead Hard's nerf was fine, in fact I still use it and have a 90% success rate with it, I love the new rework. but what the actual HELL is Decisive Strike now? How is it fair to punish tunnelling killers with a 3 second stun THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A SKILL CHECK FOR. Not only that, but ONCE per trial? Seriously? A killer can tunnel you three times, and the best you get is one chance and barely 3 seconds to run? Absolutely STUPID. I'm a killer main myself, I main Demo and Artist, not once has a Decisive Strike stopped me from clapping somebodies cheeks as soon as they break off. It's such a short time for something so annoying, tunnelling. Either make Decisive Strike twice or just revert it. It's really bad now.

+ Don't even TRY to tell me Borrowed Time is a counter, every killer and their newly adopted cat knows to wait 8 seconds to hit, and even that isn't a counter to tunneling, people just wait it out and slap you instantly. If a killer wants you dead, it's over now. At least with old Decisive you had the borrowed time and 5 second DS stun to buy time or run somewhere better.

[WakkaBlitzBallChamp]

I think they won't touch these perks for a long time as these were reworked recently. What will they do is nerf camping and tunneling to some extent so that these broken mechanics won't be abused in every match.

[NuclearHendrix]

Yeah, you pretty much have to pair it with Off the Record or Parental Guidance now (or both).

[Rotiart]

Decisive was butchered. The stun nerf was unneeded, now half the killers can just instantly use their power to confirm a down again

[call me handsome]

Exactly. 3 second stun doesn't help much. Most tunneling killers can just grind it out and keep chasing you. 5 second stun allowed you to really punish him as you gain much more distance

[76561199244198778]

Ds is just ridiculous. Its almost like 1 sec stun lol

[HeHateMe]

Somebody doesn't know their math

[Razaah !!!!]

The problem is the bloodlust and hit recovery changes. In addition to nerfing the survivors ability to make distance they also buffed the killers ability to catch up.

I dont know who in their right mind would look at both these changes and instead of implementing them one by one to see how it works out just bashes them both in at the same time.

Needless to say that my opinion of bhrvs implementation remains unchanged in the negatives.
Christ...


//EDIT: The worst part is this made it through the public test build. Like... ?
Dont even get me started on the "lessened" grind which turned out to be a statistical lie or im just missing something.

[Kitty]

Originally posted by Skittletits:

Originally posted by Cybil:

Ds is just ridiculous. Its almost like 1 sec stun lol

.. are... What? How does 3 seconds even compare to 1? I know you're just a bad troll and you're terrible at your job, but come on. You can do better than that.

Killer get stun but animiton for drop is 1,4 sec so stun is 1,6 sec.. and somehow endurance work on it so it is half only lol, but after patch there is so much of bugs..

[Skittletits]

Originally posted by Kitty:

Originally posted by Skittletits:

.. are... What? How does 3 seconds even compare to 1? I know you're just a bad troll and you're terrible at your job, but come on. You can do better than that.

Killer get stun but animiton for drop is 1,4 sec so stun is 1,6 sec.. and somehow endurance work on it so it is half only lol, but after patch there is so much of bugs..

No.

[Zylon]

Originally posted by Hex: KickOutAt2:

Dead Hard's nerf was fine, in fact I still use it and have a 90% success rate with it, I love the new rework. but what the actual HELL is Decisive Strike now? How is it fair to punish tunnelling killers with a 3 second stun THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A SKILL CHECK FOR. Not only that, but ONCE per trial? Seriously? A killer can tunnel you three times, and the best you get is one chance and barely 3 seconds to run? Absolutely STUPID. I'm a killer main myself, I main Demo and Artist, not once has a Decisive Strike stopped me from clapping somebodies cheeks as soon as they break off. It's such a short time for something so annoying, tunnelling. Either make Decisive Strike twice or just revert it. It's really bad now.

+ Don't even TRY to tell me Borrowed Time is a counter, every killer and their newly adopted cat knows to wait 8 seconds to hit, and even that isn't a counter to tunneling, people just wait it out and slap you instantly. If a killer wants you dead, it's over now. At least with old Decisive you had the borrowed time and 5 second DS stun to buy time or run somewhere better.

3 seconds to make it to a pallet or a window is a win.

That you lost the mindgame at that section and got caught again.
Is not the fault of desisive strike.

You need more help escaping? then invest more in perks that help you in a chase and pick less aura reading perks, You got 4 perk slots... use them wisely.

[TXI]

Originally posted by Zylon:

Originally posted by Hex: KickOutAt2:

Dead Hard's nerf was fine, in fact I still use it and have a 90% success rate with it, I love the new rework. but what the actual HELL is Decisive Strike now? How is it fair to punish tunnelling killers with a 3 second stun THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A SKILL CHECK FOR. Not only that, but ONCE per trial? Seriously? A killer can tunnel you three times, and the best you get is one chance and barely 3 seconds to run? Absolutely STUPID. I'm a killer main myself, I main Demo and Artist, not once has a Decisive Strike stopped me from clapping somebodies cheeks as soon as they break off. It's such a short time for something so annoying, tunnelling. Either make Decisive Strike twice or just revert it. It's really bad now.

+ Don't even TRY to tell me Borrowed Time is a counter, every killer and their newly adopted cat knows to wait 8 seconds to hit, and even that isn't a counter to tunneling, people just wait it out and slap you instantly. If a killer wants you dead, it's over now. At least with old Decisive you had the borrowed time and 5 second DS stun to buy time or run somewhere better.

3 seconds to make it to a pallet or a window is a win.

That you lost the mindgame at that section and got caught again.
Is not the fault of desisive strike.

You need more help escaping? then invest more in perks that help you in a chase and pick less aura reading perks, You got 4 perk slots... use them wisely.

The animation of DS has to play first, then take into account most pallets and windows aren't near hooks, if you got hit off of hook or close by, and even though I run to pallets their faster than me and can swing and hit even if im in the MIDDLE of a pallet. Late game is even worse when most pallets are GONE.

[NuclearHendrix]

Originally posted by Zylon:

Originally posted by Hex: KickOutAt2:

Dead Hard's nerf was fine, in fact I still use it and have a 90% success rate with it, I love the new rework. but what the actual HELL is Decisive Strike now? How is it fair to punish tunnelling killers with a 3 second stun THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A SKILL CHECK FOR. Not only that, but ONCE per trial? Seriously? A killer can tunnel you three times, and the best you get is one chance and barely 3 seconds to run? Absolutely STUPID. I'm a killer main myself, I main Demo and Artist, not once has a Decisive Strike stopped me from clapping somebodies cheeks as soon as they break off. It's such a short time for something so annoying, tunnelling. Either make Decisive Strike twice or just revert it. It's really bad now.

+ Don't even TRY to tell me Borrowed Time is a counter, every killer and their newly adopted cat knows to wait 8 seconds to hit, and even that isn't a counter to tunneling, people just wait it out and slap you instantly. If a killer wants you dead, it's over now. At least with old Decisive you had the borrowed time and 5 second DS stun to buy time or run somewhere better.

3 seconds to make it to a pallet or a window is a win.

That you lost the mindgame at that section and got caught again.
Is not the fault of desisive strike.

You need more help escaping? then invest more in perks that help you in a chase and pick less aura reading perks, You got 4 perk slots... use them wisely.

Someone hasn't used nerfed DS😂. Even Otz showed how useless the 3 second stun is.

[Nerves]

I mostly play killer and wouldnt mind if the stun was a few seconds longer than it is now. Killers should be punished a bit more for hard tunneling off hook especially after the endurance hit.
Everything else is fine imo

[Sakamoto]

Borrowed Time is a counter

[Youshisu]

I never used this perk, why you think this should be the only perk to stop tunneling? I some other solution