What's OTR + DH combo everyone is talking about?

[unlucky]

Can you tell me? Haven't played ptb

[Mossy Pond]

Both give BT-style endurance effects. DH functions the same, the I-frames are replaced by 1 second endurance. Off the record is self-BT after being unhooked that lasts 80 seconds, but turns off like DS does now if you touch a gen, etc.

The combo is they stack so you can get unhooked, then healed up, while still having OTR, so you get 4 healthstates. Add mettle of man for 5, lol

[Adeloo]

Just make that Endurance caused xhaustion, so people cannot use DH with it

[The Sin Of Cain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FplBTTnq8Ps

[unlucky]

Thank you guys

Originally posted by We Become Flowers:

Both give BT-style endurance effects. DH functions the same, the I-frames are replaced by 1 second endurance. Off the record is self-BT after being unhooked that lasts 80 seconds, but turns off like DS does now if you touch a gen, etc.

The combo is they stack so you can get unhooked, then healed up, while still having OTR, so you get 4 healthstates. Add mettle of man for 5, lol

I guess, they will definitely do something about that

[MuszD]

maybe not chasing the same guy after unhooked ?

[Adeloo]

Originally posted by MusDiz:

maybe not chasing the same guy after unhooked ?

but the guy that got unhooked can bodyblock twice for the unhooker. That is the issue.

[call me handsome]

It sounds severe but the guy cannot do anything productive other than bodyblock, can't repair gens etc

[MuszD]

Originally posted by call me handsome:

It sounds severe but the guy cannot do anything productive other than bodyblock, can't repair gens etc

its more for troll playstyle with no progress like facecamping and i know in this game ppl love to ♥♥♥♥ each other up

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by call me handsome:

It sounds severe but the guy cannot do anything productive other than bodyblock, can't repair gens etc

you might not even know they have OTR and DH tho, so they could run you around for a minute easily and then still have 4 health states

its not really about what will happen with this, its about what is possible this this, people WILL adapt to a play style that is strong, imagine everyone running OTR, sure they can´t do a gen but if the bodyblock enough and the chase gets away they can go on a gen while the OTR guys loops the killer

[Adeloo]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

Originally posted by call me handsome:

It sounds severe but the guy cannot do anything productive other than bodyblock, can't repair gens etc

you might not even know they have OTR and DH tho, so they could run you around for a minute easily and then still have 4 health states

its not really about what will happen with this, its about what is possible this this, people WILL adapt to a play style that is strong, imagine everyone running OTR, sure they can´t do a gen but if the bodyblock enough and the chase gets away they can go on a gen while the OTR guys loops the killer

honestly the moment they get healed OTR should deactivate. Because you are not getting chased if you get time to eal.

[Agentti Kiivi]

Originally posted by MusDiz:

Originally posted by call me handsome:

It sounds severe but the guy cannot do anything productive other than bodyblock, can't repair gens etc

its more for troll playstyle with no progress like facecamping and i know in this game ppl love to ♥♥♥♥ each other up

1 person doing gens while 3 people run the killer with OTR after first hook, circle of healing + botany for 100% faster healing, the killer maybe gets 1 down if the survivors mess up body blocking and taking hits and the 1 person doing gens is enough to still progress.

On top of that OTR is not disabled in the end game so if 3 people are up they can reset, 99 gates, unhook, body block and you can't stop them.

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Adeloo:

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

you might not even know they have OTR and DH tho, so they could run you around for a minute easily and then still have 4 health states

its not really about what will happen with this, its about what is possible this this, people WILL adapt to a play style that is strong, imagine everyone running OTR, sure they can´t do a gen but if the bodyblock enough and the chase gets away they can go on a gen while the OTR guys loops the killer

honestly the moment they get healed OTR should deactivate. Because you are not getting chased if you get time to eal.

1 it should

[Cuchi]

Originally posted by Adeloo:

Just make that Endurance caused xhaustion, so people cannot use DH with it

That will kill borrowed time.

[Mr. Quasar]

Originally posted by Eternal Sin Of Cain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FplBTTnq8Ps

And Survivor mains will still complain about the game! We love them

[Cujo]

Personally I think that the endurance changes look very scary, and the youtubers are having a blast theorizing the maximum possible abuse out of them, but that in the end, the changes are a good thing that only need a few tweaks to make right. Only changes that I'd like to see are:

Exhaustion caused by some endurance effects from perks, but not from naturally occurring endurance effects like unhooking or legion.
and
Endgame deactivation of many but not all endurance perks to avoid resurrecting the ghost of endgame DS aka "I win" button.