Jolt or Pain Resonance on Ghostface?

[Siren]

Currently running BBQ, Ruin + Undying, Jolt. Wondering if I should switch Jolt up with Pain Resonance. I feel like Jolt does an OK job when my totems are gone. What do you guys think?

[RamboRusina]

Jolt is terrible. Later game goes less and less likely it's that you got gens around you when you down somebody. Survivors will try to run you away from the gens so other survs can do them even without Jolt.

Not sure why you running Ruin + Undying on GF to begin with. He has no map mobility and he's basic m1 killer that can't down people fast enough to create pressure. You'd likely be way better off with stuff like Pain resonance + Deadlock/Pop or CI/DMS.

[Amity the wizard!!]

deadlock > noed or CI, noed is better > endurance > sfury
or
bamboozle > pain res > dead man > deadlock

GF doens't have enough anti loop in general to deal with mediocre players so his pain resonance + dead mans is way worse than say huntress or nurse who run deadlock + tinkerer. If you don't take either bamboozle or endfury you have to outright ignore infinite zones and just pray the other survivors are garbage at dbd.

Ghostface is already pretty bad and he's getting nerfed fairly hard with the new patch, so if you have a choice i'd choose wraith or the ring (worse but funner wraith) as a brainless stealth killer or doc for a bp farmer.

[Baby Trash Rat]

Siren の投稿を引用：

Currently running BBQ, Ruin + Undying, Jolt. Wondering if I should switch Jolt up with Pain Resonance. I feel like Jolt does an OK job when my totems are gone. What do you guys think?

Most killers are running pain resonance and dead man's switch, I'd suggest that over ruin or jolt.

[Amity the wizard!!]

The new changes nerfed his expensive addons to being useless so you won't need BBQ anymore unless you are bp farming.

[Mr. Quasar]

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Siren の投稿を引用：

Currently running BBQ, Ruin + Undying, Jolt. Wondering if I should switch Jolt up with Pain Resonance. I feel like Jolt does an OK job when my totems are gone. What do you guys think?

Most killers are running pain resonance and dead man's switch, I'd suggest that over ruin or jolt.

I'm trying to get a good perk setup on Pyramid rn, I'm not quite sure what to go for but I think my plan will be Pain Res, Dead Man's, Call of Brine and maybe Corrupt? I don't have Corrupt yet though so gonna try Pimento just so I've used it

[Siren]

Amity the wizard!! の投稿を引用：

deadlock > noed or CI, noed is better > endurance > sfury
or
bamboozle > pain res > dead man > deadlock

GF doens't have enough anti loop in general to deal with mediocre players so his pain resonance + dead mans is way worse than say huntress or nurse who run deadlock + tinkerer. If you don't take either bamboozle or endfury you have to outright ignore infinite zones and just pray the other survivors are garbage at dbd.

Ghostface is already pretty bad and he's getting nerfed fairly hard with the new patch, so if you have a choice i'd choose wraith or the ring (worse but funner wraith) as a brainless stealth killer or doc for a bp farmer.

There are so many decent loops that don't have windows. I used to think Bamboozle is a must-have on killers like Ghostface but I find myself using it less and less nowadays. I think exposed survivors not being able to reveal you will give you some form of mindgame potential due to not having a red stain in isolated spots such as, say, the shack.

I've put some thought into potential builds and I think I might be going for Pain Resonance, DMS, Gift of Pain and Nurse's - the latter is kind of a tentative one. Most good survivors will boon up and heal far away from the action, but it's good info in indoor maps and will soon have the potential to waste healing time due to the Hemo buff.

Sry about the late post.

[Mr. Quasar]

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Amity the wizard!! の投稿を引用：

deadlock > noed or CI, noed is better > endurance > sfury
or
bamboozle > pain res > dead man > deadlock

GF doens't have enough anti loop in general to deal with mediocre players so his pain resonance + dead mans is way worse than say huntress or nurse who run deadlock + tinkerer. If you don't take either bamboozle or endfury you have to outright ignore infinite zones and just pray the other survivors are garbage at dbd.

Ghostface is already pretty bad and he's getting nerfed fairly hard with the new patch, so if you have a choice i'd choose wraith or the ring (worse but funner wraith) as a brainless stealth killer or doc for a bp farmer.

There are so many decent loops that don't have windows. I used to think Bamboozle is a must-have on killers like Ghostface but I find myself using it less and less nowadays. I think exposed survivors not being able to reveal you will give you some form of mindgame potential due to not having a red stain in isolated spots such as, say, the shack.

I've put some thought into potential builds and I think I might be going for Pain Resonance, DMS, Gift of Pain and Nurse's - the latter is kind of a tentative one. Most good survivors will boon up and heal far away from the action, but it's good info in indoor maps and will soon have the potential to waste healing time due to the Hemo buff.

Sry about the late post.

One question, why run Gift of Pain over Sloppy Butcher? When exposing someone with Ghost Face then downing them, would that not still count as a basic attack? If it does count, I think Sloppy would be better because despite having Pain Res, you can't always make it to a Scourage hook, so surely Sloppy would be a better choice?

[Siren]

One question, why run Gift of Pain over Sloppy Butcher? When exposing someone with Ghost Face then downing them, would that not still count as a basic attack? If it does count, I think Sloppy would be better because despite having Pain Res, you can't always make it to a Scourage hook, so surely Sloppy would be a better choice?

Gift of Pain causes gen slowdown because you suffer a 9% pentalty to repair speeds after being healed. It's better than Sloppy in that sense. Also, you might as well get even more value out of a Scourge Hook. You really need to get lots of value from a down to win games at the top level.

[Mr. Quasar]

Siren の投稿を引用：

One question, why run Gift of Pain over Sloppy Butcher? When exposing someone with Ghost Face then downing them, would that not still count as a basic attack? If it does count, I think Sloppy would be better because despite having Pain Res, you can't always make it to a Scourage hook, so surely Sloppy would be a better choice?

Gift of Pain causes gen slowdown because you suffer a 9% pentalty to repair speeds after being healed. It's better than Sloppy in that sense. Also, you might as well get even more value out of a Scourge Hook. You really need to get lots of value from a down to win games at the top level.

Right right, my bad - I've only come back to DBD a few days ago and wasn't fully sure of the full use of Gift of Pain haha, just knew it was something along the lines of Hemm. From what I know overall though, sounds like it could be a pretty good build! I'm still yet to try the DMS and Pain Res combo on any killer, but am excited for it because Survivors just fly through gens so fast these days...

[Siren]

Right right, my bad - I've only come back to DBD a few days ago and wasn't fully sure of the full use of Gift of Pain haha, just knew it was something along the lines of Hemm. From what I know overall though, sounds like it could be a pretty good build! I'm still yet to try the DMS and Pain Res combo on any killer, but am excited for it because Survivors just fly through gens so fast these days...

DMS + Pain Resonance is really the only viable way to compete against really good survivors, it seems. You can either do that or just play Nurse/Blight until BHVR does something about MMR.

[Mr. Quasar]

Siren の投稿を引用：

Right right, my bad - I've only come back to DBD a few days ago and wasn't fully sure of the full use of Gift of Pain haha, just knew it was something along the lines of Hemm. From what I know overall though, sounds like it could be a pretty good build! I'm still yet to try the DMS and Pain Res combo on any killer, but am excited for it because Survivors just fly through gens so fast these days...

DMS + Pain Resonance is really the only viable way to compete against really good survivors, it seems. You can either do that or just play Nurse/Blight until BHVR does something about MMR.

Currently I've been enjoying Pyramid Head a lot, I wanted to try and learn Nurse but going against good Survs (I doubt I'm super high MMR) whilst trying to learn how to play her doesn't work. When I play Blight, I keep getting the Artist's map which is my least favourite map for him because you just bounce and slide off everything :/

[Siren]

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DMS + Pain Resonance is really the only viable way to compete against really good survivors, it seems. You can either do that or just play Nurse/Blight until BHVR does something about MMR.

Currently I've been enjoying Pyramid Head a lot, I wanted to try and learn Nurse but going against good Survs (I doubt I'm super high MMR) whilst trying to learn how to play her doesn't work. When I play Blight, I keep getting the Artist's map which is my least favourite map for him because you just bounce and slide off everything :/

Pyramid Head's pretty fun! RPD's one of his best maps, especially with nurse's and undying. I've gotten countless M2s through rooms that people would feel safe in.

I just hate how bad his addons are. Hope he gets a pass next.

[Mr. Quasar]

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Currently I've been enjoying Pyramid Head a lot, I wanted to try and learn Nurse but going against good Survs (I doubt I'm super high MMR) whilst trying to learn how to play her doesn't work. When I play Blight, I keep getting the Artist's map which is my least favourite map for him because you just bounce and slide off everything :/

Pyramid Head's pretty fun! RPD's one of his best maps, especially with nurse's and undying. I've gotten countless M2s through rooms that people would feel safe in.

I just hate how bad his addons are. Hope he gets a pass next.

What I like to do is the basic add-ons I'm pretty sure, run a Range along with increased time Rites of Judgement remains on the ground, my current set-up, although not what I want, is Pain Res, DMS, Call of Brine, Penti, but I want to replace Penti with Corrupt. I'm normally quite good at predicting my shots as he was the Killer that got me into playing DBD like a year ago now I think? Although things like Nurse's & I'm All Ears would probably benefit me as well, I'm liking that build. I know that some perks like Pain Res people say are meh on Pyramid, but as long as you only use Cage to either save time, or if you're worried about DS, then I think they work really well.

[Siren]

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Siren の投稿を引用：

Pyramid Head's pretty fun! RPD's one of his best maps, especially with nurse's and undying. I've gotten countless M2s through rooms that people would feel safe in.

I just hate how bad his addons are. Hope he gets a pass next.

What I like to do is the basic add-ons I'm pretty sure, run a Range along with increased time Rites of Judgement remains on the ground, my current set-up, although not what I want, is Pain Res, DMS, Call of Brine, Penti, but I want to replace Penti with Corrupt. I'm normally quite good at predicting my shots as he was the Killer that got me into playing DBD like a year ago now I think? Although things like Nurse's & I'm All Ears would probably benefit me as well, I'm liking that build. I know that some perks like Pain Res people say are meh on Pyramid, but as long as you only use Cage to either save time, or if you're worried about DS, then I think they work really well.

I don't think Scourge Hooks are a big issue for Pyramid Head. Chase info perks such as I'm All Ears will give you lots of satisfying hits but I've stopped using it on him because I want to get legitimately good at predicting movement. It just takes a chase or two before you figure out the survivor's movement pattern (like how often they double back).

[Mr. Quasar]

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What I like to do is the basic add-ons I'm pretty sure, run a Range along with increased time Rites of Judgement remains on the ground, my current set-up, although not what I want, is Pain Res, DMS, Call of Brine, Penti, but I want to replace Penti with Corrupt. I'm normally quite good at predicting my shots as he was the Killer that got me into playing DBD like a year ago now I think? Although things like Nurse's & I'm All Ears would probably benefit me as well, I'm liking that build. I know that some perks like Pain Res people say are meh on Pyramid, but as long as you only use Cage to either save time, or if you're worried about DS, then I think they work really well.

I don't think Scourge Hooks are a big issue for Pyramid Head. Chase info perks such as I'm All Ears will give you lots of satisfying hits but I've stopped using it on him because I want to get legitimately good at predicting movement. It just takes a chase or two before you figure out the survivor's movement pattern (like how often they double back).

Yeah I agree, and not to sound stuck up or anything, but I think my predictions are pretty good right now. One thing that threw me off when I started playing him again though was putting his sword in the ground is much slower than it used to be, I thought it was a bug when I first figured it out but I'm guessing it was a nerf for him? Either way, prediction shots are, imo, easily learnt, not even with different survivors but just by playing Pyramid, most survs have similar-ish movement.