If billy can have infinite chainsaw dash...

[ThePeeje]

...why cant wraith have atleast the same speed while cloaked? Why cant freddie have it in the dream world?

If huntress has a directional sound because of her long range capabilities... why doesnt billys chainsaw?

Basically billy is wraith with one hit capability and better map coverage. Was the person who balances this game on holiday for the last year?

[Bronze]

Wraith is fast while cloaked and is designed to be a tracker
Freddy uhm yeah
Huntress has a better option to hit you with and billys saw can be heard from 40m away if you didn't notice so he does have a noticable sound also his saw is easy to juke unlike hatchets

[El Fuerte]

"Why can't the Hillbilly have infinite chainsaw and be invisible at the same time" is that what you're asking?

That is the worst arguement ever to ask for the well needed Wraith/Freddy buff though

[FericJaggar]

Originally posted by ThePeeje:

...why cant wraith have atleast the same speed while cloaked? Why cant freddie have it in the dream world?

If huntress has a directional sound because of her long range capabilities... why doesnt billys chainsaw?

Basically billy is wraith with one hit capability and better map coverage. Was the person who balances this game on holiday for the last year?

Ho yeah ? Billy has no terror radius and is nearly invisible ? I should try him since his rework then.

[Runiver]

It may due to the fact that billy is forced to walk in a near straight line during his rush.
Or maybe because the fact that he's loud as ♥♥♥♥ over the whole map as he does it.

[ASpazNamedSteve :]]

Stop hammering home how bad the Wraith is >:c

Originally posted by N Aguento + Morrê:

"Why can't the Hillbilly have infinite chainsaw and be invisible at the same time" is that what you're asking?

what

[Boss]

Since both were here since the beginning, they figured it was fine the way it is cause Wraith is cloaked.
They make his stealth abilities the excuse for being slower and weaker.

Of course, now that everyone except a few console plebs know that Wraith is bottom tier if not trash-tier, they should give him more than a few QoL updates and a curve instead of a line.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by ASpazNamedSteve:

Originally posted by N Aguento + Morrê:

"Why can't the Hillbilly have infinite chainsaw and be invisible at the same time" is that what you're asking?

what

The guy is questioning about why there is no killer which can go invisible and have a HB dash at the same time. I was pointing out how nonsensical his argumentation is even if Wraith/Freddy does need a buff.

You don't just give the Wraith a HB dash and call it a day. That would be extremely unbalanced.

[FericJaggar]

The problem is looping. Before that Wraith was considered strong, no ? But looping has reshaped the killer tier list. That and the fast gen completion.

[El Fuerte]

Originally posted by FericJaggar:

The problem is looping. Before that Wraith was considered strong, no ?

No. Looping was there since the release of this game and it was worse because of the infinites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVq2LWJGo7g

Wraith was always a joke.

[ThePeeje]

What i mean is... wraith has almost no advantage in terms of stealthily sneaking up on people. Because actually you can just seen him coming and run. Or even not.

Billy could come at you super fast from any direction and get to within the same distance of you as wraith can. So whats the point.

I just think he needs directional sound if huntress does too. Or get rid of both. And fyi maybe nurse should too since she can have a mad dash.

Wraith on the other hand needs to be fully invisible. Just the growl would still be cool because its creepy and hard to hear over gens.

OR give him super speed while cloaked. No one asked for help with tracking. He was already a tracking god.

And billys chainsaw should be limited to a set distance, like nurse's blinks or bubbas chainsaw. Why infinite? Its totally unbalanced.

[FericJaggar]

Originally posted by N Aguento + Morrê:

Originally posted by FericJaggar:

The problem is looping. Before that Wraith was considered strong, no ?

No. Loop was there since the release of this game and it was worse because of the infinites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVq2LWJGo7g

No, looping arrived with 1.1.1 patch, the vacuum and the stun at the start of animation.

[FericJaggar]

Originally posted by ThePeeje:

What i mean is... wraith has almost no advantage in terms of stealthily sneaking up on people. Because actually you can just seen him coming and run. Or even not.

Billy could come at you super fast from any direction and get to within the same distance of you as wraith can. So whats the point.

I just think he needs directional sound if huntress does too.

And his chainsaw should be limited to a set distance, like nurse's blinks or bubbas chainsawing. Why infinite? Its totally unbalanced.

Yeah, sure, let's trash one the of the few balanced killer, good idea. Or, maybe, try to make other killers viable as well ?
I let you decide.

[Runiver]

Originally posted by ThePeeje:

What i mean is... wraith has almost no advantage in terms of stealthily sneaking up on people. Because actually you can just seen him coming and run. Or even not.

Billy could come at you super fast from any direction and get to within the same distance of you as wraith can. So whats the point.

I just think he needs directional sound if huntress does too.

And his chainsaw should be limited to a set distance, like nurse's blinks or bubbas chainsawing. Why infinite? Its totally unbalanced.

Good job on discovering that Wraith is weak, because Stealth is weak, since survivors do have sprint burst and safe haven of pallets everywhere they go.
Not sure how it's related to Billy tho.

[Slippery When Dead]

oh another "nerf the Hillbilly" thread of yours. Still haven't given up on it? If you still suck against a well-balanced Killer (probably the most balanced of them all) then the problem here is surely not the Hillbilly.

[Meet the Zombie Soldier]

feric, you missed the point.
there was something equal to, if not WORSE than the pallet looping that we now know and hate today.
It evens still exists to a lesser degree, but it's not quite as infinite as it's namesake used to be.