Hex: pentimento doesn't work with boons?

[Loving Wound]

What the is the point of this perk if it doesn't work with boons? If this perk was released before boons it would have been good, but since boons released it is basically useless.

WHY did it release this way???

[Loving Wound]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Update: Day 2 of Pentimento being released and I've already seen 2 killers (one Trickster, one Artist) use a Pentimento + Plaything build to basically force totem breaks and get value for a large majority of the match. "Useless" indeed.

Wow it isn't entirely useless.

[Alyssa]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Автор сообщения: L3ros

Because it's another useless perk.

Perks that have counterplay are useless now? Go figure.
There are still perks that require you to break totems for their effect to take hold, like Inner Strength. NOED is still a threat that should be forcing survivors to break totems. Even if boon totems didn't exist, what would that effect? The counterplay would be as simple as "don't cleanse dulls" and you'd still not see value out of the perk.
Besides, for the boons to truly make an impact, you need to rely on all or most of the survivors bringing boon perks, and even then, if you have other hexes, it's faster to break than to boon. If more survivors have no boon perks than ones that do, you'll probably still see bones getting broken.

^
This guy just made a topic complaining about Pentimento + Plaything combo.
To which both have many counter-plays.

Killers are not allowed to have semi-decent/strong things, get over it and Enjoy It While It Lasts, Killer Mains!

[Shiro♌]

I'd rather boon them than cleanse them.
Thanks for the heads-up, I forgot, how does Hex: Pentimento work!

[Grim]

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

Автор сообщения: Grim

Update: Day 2 of Pentimento being released and I've already seen 2 killers (one Trickster, one Artist) use a Pentimento + Plaything build to basically force totem breaks and get value for a large majority of the match. "Useless" indeed.

Wow it isn't entirely useless.

Yep, that's my point. There are a lot of perks out there that seem useless on their face but become really useful when you synergize them, ex. Furtive Chase + Nemesis + Make Your Choice = (when played well) every unhook causes the unhooker to become Exposed, Oblivious, and you get an aura read on where they're heading. Furtive Chase is borderline useless on its own, but in that build it's literally what carries the whole thing. Pentimento is similar! You can't just dismiss a perk on its face.

Автор сообщения: Alyssa

Автор сообщения: Grim

Perks that have counterplay are useless now? Go figure.
There are still perks that require you to break totems for their effect to take hold, like Inner Strength. NOED is still a threat that should be forcing survivors to break totems. Even if boon totems didn't exist, what would that effect? The counterplay would be as simple as "don't cleanse dulls" and you'd still not see value out of the perk.
Besides, for the boons to truly make an impact, you need to rely on all or most of the survivors bringing boon perks, and even then, if you have other hexes, it's faster to break than to boon. If more survivors have no boon perks than ones that do, you'll probably still see bones getting broken.

^
This guy just made a topic complaining about Pentimento + Plaything combo.
To which both have many counter-plays.

Killers are not allowed to have semi-decent/strong things, get over it and Enjoy It While It Lasts, Killer Mains!

lmao I am a killer main though. At least, I consider myself to be. I mostly only play survivor to do challenges. I suppose you also think that the notorious "Insidious Basement Bubba" build is just another semi-decent thing for poor, underrepresented killers that nobody should complain about?

[Loving Wound]

Автор сообщения: Shiro-sama♌

I'd rather boon them than cleanse them.
Thanks for the heads-up, I forgot, how does Hex: Pentimento work! :iw_kanae:

It doesn't work. Don't know why on earth they released pentimento after boons!

[Grim]

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

Автор сообщения: Shiro-sama♌

I'd rather boon them than cleanse them.
Thanks for the heads-up, I forgot, how does Hex: Pentimento work! :iw_kanae:

It doesn't work. Don't know why on earth they released pentimento after boons!

Lmao you just got told about a build that empirically makes it work and are still complaining about it, both here and in my thread. Give me a break. You don't actually care about Pentimento being useful or not, you just want an excuse to gripe.

[Loving Wound]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

It doesn't work. Don't know why on earth they released pentimento after boons!

Lmao you just got told about a build that empirically makes it work and are still complaining about it, both here and in my thread. Give me a break. You don't actually care about Pentimento being useful or not, you just want an excuse to gripe.

You're complaining about a pretty meh build. Wow being one step away from useless doesn't make that much of a different.

Oh no I'm wrong about it being useless, it is actually not aaaass useless. Woooww.

[Grim]

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

Автор сообщения: Grim

Lmao you just got told about a build that empirically makes it work and are still complaining about it, both here and in my thread. Give me a break. You don't actually care about Pentimento being useful or not, you just want an excuse to gripe.

You're complaining about a pretty meh build. Wow being one step away from useless doesn't make that much of a different.

Oh no I'm wrong about it being useless, it is actually not aaaass useless. Woooww.

If it's a "pretty meh build" then the two matches I had in which it worked pretty damn well must be an outlier. How strange.

Anyway, you've been told a bunch of times how Pentimento still has a use, whether it's because of specific builds or just because sometimes yes survivors will still cleanse totems whether boons exist or not lmao. You still gonna ride this train?

[Loving Wound]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

You're complaining about a pretty meh build. Wow being one step away from useless doesn't make that much of a different.

Oh no I'm wrong about it being useless, it is actually not aaaass useless. Woooww.

If it's a "pretty meh build" then the two matches I had in which it worked pretty damn well must be an outlier. How strange.

Wow 2 matches. Had 2 matches where I got a few kills are deathslinger, doesn't mean he isn't trash.

Автор сообщения: Grim

Anyway, you've been told a bunch of times how Pentimento still has a use, whether it's because of specific builds or just because sometimes yes survivors will still cleanse totems whether boons exist or not lmao. You still gonna ride this train?

Being next to useless instead of not being useless isn't significantly better, so going to ride this train until penti works with boons.

[Grim]

Two out of two matches lol. Obviously I'd need to go against it more before I can form an official ruling, but so far it's got about an 80% success rate, if we call the Trickster match partial credit.

Anyway, I've said my piece. Pentimento can be synergized to great effect, not everyone runs boons, every hex is a gamble so why should Pentimento be any different. Ignore my perfectly valid points all you will, if you'd rather sit in your grump corner and grouch all day because one perk isn't as strong as you want it to be, because god forbid a killer perk have valid counterplay, then I guess that's your decision. Might not hurt to be a little more positive, though. Lmao.

[Grim]

Quick question while it's on my mind: Would you agree that Pop Goes The Weasel is useless because Repressed Alliance exists?

It's bothered me for a long time that a killer perk could be countered so easily because a survivor brought in a perk to counter it. Like, you go to all the work of hooking a survivor, then run over to kick a generator that's almost done, only for the survivor to block it? Pop ends up running out of time. How lame is that?

Maybe Pop should allow you to kick generators that are blocked. You know, for fairness.

[Loving Wound]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Anyway, I've said my piece. Pentimento can be synergized to great effect, not everyone runs boons, every hex is a gamble so why should Pentimento be any different. Ignore my perfectly valid points all you will, if you'd rather sit in your grump corner and grouch all day because one perk isn't as strong as you want it to be, because god forbid a killer perk have valid counterplay, then I guess that's your decision. Might not hurt to be a little more positive, though. Lmao.

Bro you named one build and that involves a hex that gives away its location for crying out loud. In a boon meta, doesn't make any damn sense. Call it valid points all you want, but it is still trash lmao. Who even said anything about counter play? God forbid I want a perk to be useful and actually be designed for the popular boon perks instead of not being designed at all for the thing so many surivivors are running. lmao

[Loving Wound]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Quick question while it's on my mind: Would you agree that Pop Goes The Weasel is useless because Repressed Alliance exists?

It's bothered me for a long time that a killer perk could be countered so easily because a survivor brought in a perk to counter it. Like, you go to all the work of hooking a survivor, then run over to kick a generator that's almost done, only for the survivor to block it? Pop ends up running out of time. How lame is that?

Maybe Pop should allow you to kick generators that are blocked. You know, for fairness.

Bro like nobody runs Repressed Alliance, done with you bro. You trolling with these comparisons.

[Grim]

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

Автор сообщения: Grim

Quick question while it's on my mind: Would you agree that Pop Goes The Weasel is useless because Repressed Alliance exists?

It's bothered me for a long time that a killer perk could be countered so easily because a survivor brought in a perk to counter it. Like, you go to all the work of hooking a survivor, then run over to kick a generator that's almost done, only for the survivor to block it? Pop ends up running out of time. How lame is that?

Maybe Pop should allow you to kick generators that are blocked. You know, for fairness.

Bro like nobody runs Repressed Alliance, done with you bro. You trolling with these comparisons.

I'm afraid I've lost the thread here buddy. So Pentimento is bad because it's a killer perk that's easily countered by survivor perks which anyone could run if they so chose, while Pop is fine despite… Being a killer perk that's easily countered by a survivor perk which anyone could run if they so chose?

So the only difference is that Repressed Alliance isn't as popular, which means that when the boon hype starts to die down and boons become less popular, Pentimento will see more use… Which is exactly what I said earlier.

Glad you've come around!

[Swanky McSwanky Pants]

Автор сообщения: Grim

Автор сообщения: Red Boi

Bro like nobody runs Repressed Alliance, done with you bro. You trolling with these comparisons.

I'm afraid I've lost the thread here buddy. So Pentimento is bad because it's a killer perk that's easily countered by survivor perks which anyone could run if they so chose, while Pop is fine despite… Being a killer perk that's easily countered by a survivor perk which anyone could run if they so chose?

So the only difference is that Repressed Alliance isn't as popular, which means that when the boon hype starts to die down and boons become less popular, Pentimento will see more use… Which is exactly what I said earlier.

Glad you've come around!

Boons are definitely never going to die down dude, you seem to be forgetting that Circle of Healing is meta af and Exponential probably will be too. Honestly even Shadow Step is decent unlike Repressed Alliance so that isn't even a fair comparison to begin with. On top of that, even if RA was good you'd still actually be able use Pop a little bit in the match but you would have to play around RA and that's fine. The issue is that Penti will literally never get use unless you have survs with a cleanse totems challenge.