I need help dealing with loopers.

[why]

I'm running my best looping build but I can't beat survivors because they always get the best windows and pallets.

I can't mindgame anymore like I used to, it's like they know every move I'm doing and it frustrates me so much.

With hit validation it makes it even more annoying.

What makes me even more upset is when survivors bodyblock or Dead Hard to a window or pallet, it makes me wanna DC at this point.

And with Circle Of healing or Medkits, pressuring gens gives me a risk of them healing up quickly when I drop chase.

I really need tips because killer is getting extremely stressful, especially with how quick gens can go for just simply chasing a survivor.

[Babalonkie]

Nguyên văn bởi Mary:

Nguyên văn bởi Babalonkie:

I don't mean to be rude but you cant use "use this perk" as a solution... not everyone can afford to keep pumping money into the game let alone play everyday for weeks/months just to wait for a single perk in shrine of secrets...

That wasn't the only solution they presented in that quote. >:|

Nope, but it was the only "solution" i was replying about...

[LotusBlade]

Here are my thoughts about loopers:

1) If they are too skilled, leave them and switch to someone else, high chances are other players are much worse;

2) If someone forcing you into looping, ignore him right away, he is mostlikely very skilled;

3) Force them to run towards nearby gens to check for other players and switch.

4) Avoid strong loops like shack and main building, force loops near basement and 3-gens.

5) Make sure they lost sight of you and quickly quit looping, they will still think you are nearby and waste some time waiting for you.

6) Hook players in dead zone even if it takes 10+ seconds to reach faraway hook. Next loop nearby will be impossible for them.

7) Force them to waste pallets early-game, even if they gonna stun you + take perk to reduce stun duration (overpower?). Every time you avoid getting stunned and they do not throw pallet, you waste time for nothing and increase chase lenght.

[Babalonkie]

Nguyên văn bởi LotusBlade:

Here are my thoughts about loopers:

1) If they are too skilled, leave them and switch to someone else, high chances are other players are much worse;

2) If someone forcing you into looping, ignore him right away, he is mostlikely very skilled;

3) Force them to run towards nearby gens to check for other players and switch.

4) Avoid strong loops like shack and main building, force loops near basement and 3-gens.

5) Make sure they lost sight of you and quickly quit looping, they will still think you are nearby and waste some time waiting for you.

6) Hook players in dead zone even if it takes 10+ seconds to reach faraway hook. Next loop nearby will be impossible for them.

7) Force them to waste pallets early-game, even if they gonna stun you + take perk to reduce stun duration (overpower?). Every time you avoid getting stunned and they do not throw pallet, you waste time for nothing and increase chase lenght.

All valid until you get to top tier MM... then will tend to only see mainly one of the following... SWF squads with 4 top tier players, cheaters and/or players with everything unlocked (Not all, but more often).

When it gets to that stage, doing "something else" is just replacing one turd with another... especially if you are locked with a slow killer or a bad map.

The solution then is to get it over quickly, pretend to chase them but dont (this stops them for clocking on). Get the gens done faster and when done, open the gate yourself, so the timer starts.

MM and map balance is broken and is the route cause of most frustrations caused by gameplay.

[Mary]

Nguyên văn bởi Babalonkie:

Nguyên văn bởi Mary:

That wasn't the only solution they presented in that quote. >:|

Nope, but it was the only "solution" i was replying about...

Ah, yeah, I went over the rest of the conversation after my comment.

You seem like a lost cause. :|

[Flexxi]

after they looped you tbagged you and said gg ez in chat learn next game just disconnect fast and let them play que simulator again

[BHVR_BOT]

loopers gonna loope, just wait for nurse to be up again and problem fixed, yes that's how i see things, personally the other killers piss me off terribly, eat all the pallets on the map or go around in circles after a while, it's just extremely boring, frustrating.

so i play nurse, with the two addons that allow me to recharge my blink more quickly, in 1080x1080, you don't feel like you're playing the same game in fact

[Babalonkie]

Nguyên văn bởi McMurphy:

loopers gonna loope, just wait for nurse to be up again and problem fixed, yes that's how i see things, personally the other killers piss me off terribly, eat all the pallets on the map or go around in circles after a while, it's just extremely boring, frustrating.

so i play nurse, with the two addons that allow me to recharge my blink more quickly, in 1080x1080, you don't feel like you're playing the same game in fact

I can see her being the ultimate looper breaker and she is unlocked from the get go. She needs practice though and will be punishing to learn the hard way. I don't have the patience to put in more effort than a single key, like loopers just using the W key, that's why i like Clown and trapper... Hit 1 button to counter. Hag apparently is a good stock anti looper but costs and is also not a easy to master killer. If people dont want to keep paying out money just to tackle loopers, they should stick with Trapper and Nurse (when she is unlocked).

Other than that, the basic "ideal" techniques have already been said, there is not much more else to add/do.

Nguyên văn bởi Mary:

Nguyên văn bởi Babalonkie:

Nope, but it was the only "solution" i was replying about...

Ah, yeah, I went over the rest of the conversation after my comment.

You seem like a lost cause. :|

Should probably do that before commenting next time to not look stupid :|

[BHVR_BOT]

sincerely the nurse is too overrated, when you start playing it it's hard but after two weeks you have it in hand quite easily, especially since you seem to say that you've been playing the game since its release, it's the same for me, but a clown and a trapper can't teleport through walls unfortunately, and it really pisses me off to walk around loops like a m0ron, might as well go back to playing hns_rooftop on 1.6

[Babalonkie]

Nguyên văn bởi McMurphy:

sincerely the nurse is too overrated, when you start playing it it's hard but after two weeks you have it in hand quite easily, especially since you seem to say that you've been playing the game since its release, it's the same for me, but a clown and a trapper can't teleport through walls unfortunately, and it really pisses me off to walk around loops like a m0ron, might as well go back to playing hns_rooftop on 1.6

Oh i find teleporting a unfair mechanic and the reason why my nurse has only been used for the perks but Looping has gone through the roof the past month and needs must... so when she is unlocked i will be dumping BP on her.

Although with trapper i dont chase after a looper at all, i preempt their looping with him and Clown (of which i stayed away from for ages as i found the idea of a clown hilarious as a killer)... turns out to be my best anti looper (stock). One jar of slow down gives a survivor the ability to only do a single loop before you get them or they waste the pallet... no matter what map or location. The one killer i wanted the least turned out to be one of the most useful to me lately.

The best solutions were already said, Moonwalking, backtracking or mindgames... they are good for "most killers" against 90% of players in 60% of all scenarios... outside of those percentages or additionally... you will need to look at killer characters, as some just cant chase at all and some are good chasers.

Any other factors either costs money or a lot of time mixed with chance... and anything that uses money+time+chance is complete designed either for pure profit or pure lack of effort in design/balancing... or even sometimes both.

[BHVR_BOT]

yes i see what you mean, i hadn't even passed prestige in 2016/2017 too busy sabotaging the whole map, out of joke i went back to dbd a little over a year ago with a few pauses, i had hardly ever touched the nurse, watched tutorials and saw people playing stretched like on 1.6 i said to myself ♥♥♥♥, and indeed it's crazy, i understand what you mean with the trapper and the clown but there are always the windows, things that piss you off, i leveled up my nurse, changed my in-game resolution and that's madness, nothing to do with other killers, of course there are counters, dead-hard sneaky players & cheaters of course as mentioned by the author of the thread

"I can't mindgame anymore like I used to, it's like they know every move I'm doing and it frustrates me so much."

simply wall hack nothing else

[Captain Dickärd]

Until the stretched resolution is fixed, expect to not be able to mindgame against most survivors at higher mmr.

[Bullied by Pigeon]

I came back after like 2 year break ive been playing crowlady for a good month now and i can tell you that so far she is the best antilooper in the game other than nurse.. took me a while to get used to the timings but u can score downs every 30 secs or so, by the time u pick em up and hook ur deadmanswitch would be refreshed its been 2pip climb to red almost every match now..

[Huge Beard Guy]

After reading this thread, a tweet I read recently keeps popping into mind:

"You'll never meet a more delusional person than a DBD player".

[Mirciulică]

just git gud babykiller lol

[Keyrala]

Worry not, next patch they removing stretch res advantages, so high mmr survivors will be affected by mindgames again.

After that there is not much else as there is no specific build or formula that will give you answers to all problems, sometimes you gotta let them go and chase someone else. Just practice and learn to adapt to diff situations and don't be afraid of slugging every often a while to earn a few seconds.