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Froozgooz Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:32pm
Play with your food
Let me start off by saying that as a survivor main I think MM is just fine as he is and I don't think he needs a nerf. However, I wanted to know what everyone thought about pay wth your food. At rank 3 I feel like a 21% speed increase is as little absurd. That makes the killers sired 131% compared to a survivors 100%.

I do understand how it works on a token system and that a token is lost each time an aggressive action is performed but doesn't that amount of speed increase a bit much? How do you counter that if the obsession sucks at staying stealthy? And saying "don't get found" really isn't a great answer either because as we all know sometimes you get bad luck and the killer happens upon you.

Thank you for your input!
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Chrome Dome Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:35pm 
21% speed on tier 1 mike is scary.

21% speed on tier 3 mike is horrifying.

That perk doesnt belong in the game. Or change it to a no token system and it lasts 10 seconds or so.

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Froozgooz Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Neighborhood Stalker:
21% speed on tier 1 mike is scary.

21% speed on tier 3 mike is horrifying.

That perk doesnt belong in the game. Or change it to a no token system and it lasts 10 seconds or so.

I'm fine with the perk. I just feel like 7% per token is a little rediculous
Last edited by Froozgooz; Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:37pm
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WC? Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:37pm 
OR, or, and get this....... the obsession could HIDE and not feed PWYF....
Last edited by WC?; Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:37pm
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Froozgooz Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:38pm 
Originally posted by POTATO:
OR, or, and get this....... the obsession could HIDE and not feed PWYF.
Please read the original post
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Mazza Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:38pm 
Wow make the game harder to survive and suddenly MM needs to be nerfed LOL :).

He is fine the way he is otherwise we'll have another "nurse" that started off brillient and just got dumbed down to a floating corpse that you can run circles around.
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SavageJack_ (Banned) Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:38pm 
If the obsession is being farmed for tokens then you need to let the killer finish him off.
The extra speed is nice from Mike's perspective, but it is also a very fleeting buff. Not letting him get to Evil III is a good idea since then he only loses 1 token to kill an opponent. Beyond that? I can say that the perk is crazy powerful when its active, but once the obsession is dead it becomes a wasted perk. I feel like the obsession perks are best used together to cover this weakness, and at that point you are spending 2 or 3 perk slots taking those obsessions.

From a stealthy player's perspective, Mike has 3 tokens it just lets him patrol faster. And the hillbilly with whispers is even faster, so idk if this is OP but it isn't an issue exclusive to the new perks.
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WC? Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Froozgooz:
Originally posted by POTATO:
OR, or, and get this....... the obsession could HIDE and not feed PWYF.
Please read the original post

excuse you i DID read the post and thats all i had to say about that. Dont feed git gud. Perk is fine working as intended.
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Froozgooz Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:39pm 
Originally posted by Mazza:
Wow make the game harder to survive and suddenly MM needs to be nerfed LOL :).

He is fine the way he is otherwise we'll have another "nurse" that started off brillient and just got dumbed down to a floating corpse that you can run circles around.
Read the original post. I started it by saying MM is fine. I just have an issue with this one perk. Please read before commenting
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WC? Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by SavageJack_:
If the obsession is being farmed for tokens then you need to let the killer finish him off.
The extra speed is nice from Mike's perspective, but it is also a very fleeting buff. Not letting him get to Evil III is a good idea since then he only loses 1 token to kill an opponent. Beyond that? I can say that the perk is crazy powerful when its active, but once the obsession is dead it becomes a wasted perk. I feel like the obsession perks are best used together to cover this weakness, and at that point you are spending 2 or 3 perk slots taking those obsessions.

From a stealthy player's perspective, Mike has 3 tokens it just lets him patrol faster. And the hillbilly with whispers is even faster, so idk if this is OP but it isn't an issue exclusive to the new perks.

This guy actually gets it. Everyone should take note.
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Darkheart Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:40pm 
i think its fine since the obbsesion needs to give it to him and since the fixed the stalk spam its alot harder to get 3 stacks.
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WC? Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Froozgooz:
Originally posted by Mazza:
Wow make the game harder to survive and suddenly MM needs to be nerfed LOL :).

He is fine the way he is otherwise we'll have another "nurse" that started off brillient and just got dumbed down to a floating corpse that you can run circles around.
Read the original post. I started it by saying MM is fine. I just have an issue with this one perk. Please read before commenting

WOW rude. OP is a big rude phoney. He just accuses everyone he disagrees with of not reading OP. Sooooooooooo pathetic.
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Froozgooz Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by POTATO:
Originally posted by Froozgooz:
Please read the original post

excuse you i DID read the post and thats all i had to say about that. Dont feed git gud. Perk is fine working as intended.
You are excused
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WC? Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Froozgooz:
Originally posted by POTATO:

excuse you i DID read the post and thats all i had to say about that. Dont feed git gud. Perk is fine working as intended.
You are excused

I said excuse YOU.
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Froozgooz Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by POTATO:
Originally posted by Froozgooz:
Read the original post. I started it by saying MM is fine. I just have an issue with this one perk. Please read before commenting

WOW rude. OP is a big rude phoney. He just accuses everyone he disagrees with of not reading OP. Sooooooooooo pathetic.
That person clearly didn't read my post otherwise they would know that I was taking about a perk and not MM. Please troll elsewhere.
Last edited by Froozgooz; Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:44pm
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SavageJack_ (Banned) Oct 27, 2016 @ 11:49pm 
So before this sprawls into an incoherent mess of insults...
All of the "move faster" abilities from killers will feel inherently OP because they allow the killer to put constant pressure on survivors. Being able to be 10 seconds away from every location on a map is the biggest draw to playing Billy (also chainsawing Claudettes, but everyone loves that)

I feel like Mike is the definition of "the candle that burns twice as bright..."
Once his obsession is gone Play With Your Food is a waste, and once he has failed with Evil Within 3 a few times he can no longer enter that state. Being able to survive that long (and popping some gens along the way) can really help as Mike's only real late game advantage comes from his other perks, and at that point you know he isn't running the other OP perk combinations.
Early game Mike is pretty powerful, late game Mike is not. Play with your food is a good example of this princible in practice.
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