In what way is this Silent Hill?

[UTF32]

"Silent Hill" is a media, mostly video game, franchise that started in 1999.

For those who don’t know, it is considered one of most prominent "survival horror" game examples. Together with "Resident Evil", the games emphasize weapon handling, resource management, grotesque enemies, puzzle solving and recursive map unlocking.

Silent Hill specifically is oriented towards subconsciousness, doomsday cults and symbolism.

My question is:

in what way "Silent Hill" chapter in "Dead by Daylight" is supposed to bring a "Silent Hill" experience?

If all survivors select Heather Mason, choose only her specific perks, play in Midwich and the killer is Pyramid Head with only his specific perks, this is supposed to be "Silent Hill"?

How do Cheryl’s perks or the Pyramid Head’s perks or the Midwich map represent Silent Hill, other than cosmetics? You actually wanna say that if the exact same perks and abilities were brought with a completely different franchise (let’s say, "Clock Tower"), this wouldn’t be the exact same thing?

[PrinceCharming]

Originally posted by Nico:

When was the last silent hill game released?

Anything related to Silent Hill died with it's mediocre 2012 sequel.

Only thing Silent Hill related that released after was a Pachinko Machine and DLC to DbD.

If anything, DbD is somewhat helping Silent Hill.

[SuaveMonke]

Originally posted by UTF32:

Originally posted by The Suave Monkey:

the Pyramid Head is just a manifestation of James Sunderland's guilt and desire for punishment

Well, you did manage to sc*w up in such a short paragraph? If PH is just a manifestation of James’ guilt, what the hell is he doing here? James is supposed to be dead in Silent Hill, so is the PH.

If you really follow the Silent Hill’s lore, there shouldn’t be any Cheryl or Pyramid Head here. And Midwich technically should have more levels. But I’m even talking about that, because nitpicking every lore element would be completely helpless.

I’m specifically talking about the gameplay and how each licenced chapter bring nothing more than cosmetics.

The desire for punishment, the guilt, the suffering and torment, the Pyramid head is capable of manifesting any abilities that are meet the purpose of tormenting the entity it is manifest from. Lets look at what PH does in DBD, he literally tears into the entity's realm making it bleed, he puts survivors in cages instead of sacrificing on hooks, and he flat out executes survivors instead of giving them to the entity.

The PH perk names are inspired by the fact that he delivers punishment, yes. What do perk names have to do with the gameplay?

As for the visual manifestation of the PH ability, there is no reason to believe the same effects couldn’t be used on any potential licenced killer. They are completely arbitrry. If they chose Pinhead instead of Pyramid head, they could even have kept the perk names.

Okay, so you have a kindergarteners reading comprehension level, got it.

So you are slow.

[UTF32]

Originally posted by PrinceCharming:

Anything related to Silent Hill died with it's mediocre 2012 sequel.

"Silent Hill" is a franchise that was completely destroyed by its fanbase. The fanbase and not individual people in Konami was the actual cuprit why it failed. They couldn’t forgive Konami for the disbanding their favourite creative team and trashed every game post SH3. "No Team Silent? This is trash. Period."

I played Downpour with very low expectations and I found out this is actually an amazing game. In terms of style and gameplay it respects "Silent Hill" franchise. You can clearly see that those who made the game clearly understood what the franchise was about.

[Vinnie Huxhold]

Originally posted by Rabbit:

because you're still playing Dead by Daylight, not a Silent Hill game

this.

[UTF32]

Originally posted by The Suave Monkey:

Originally posted by UTF32:

Well, you did manage to sc*w up in such a short paragraph? If PH is just a manifestation of James’ guilt, what the hell is he doing here? James is supposed to be dead in Silent Hill, so is the PH.

If you really follow the Silent Hill’s lore, there shouldn’t be any Cheryl or Pyramid Head here. And Midwich technically should have more levels. But I’m even talking about that, because nitpicking every lore element would be completely helpless.

I’m specifically talking about the gameplay and how each licenced chapter bring nothing more than cosmetics.



The PH perk names are inspired by the fact that he delivers punishment, yes. What do perk names have to do with the gameplay?

As for the visual manifestation of the PH ability, there is no reason to believe the same effects couldn’t be used on any potential licenced killer. They are completely arbitrry. If they chose Pinhead instead of Pyramid head, they could even have kept the perk names.

Okay, so you have a kindergarteners reading comprehension level, got it.

So you are slow.

Your every post has a nonsensical signature, something about speed. I don’t care much, but I thought you should know, because it makes you look stupid.

[PrinceCharming]

Originally posted by UTF32:

Originally posted by PrinceCharming:

Anything related to Silent Hill died with it's mediocre 2012 sequel.

"Silent Hill" is a franchise that was completely destroyed by its fanbase. The fanbase and not individual people in Konami was the actual cuprit why it failed. They couldn’t forgive Konami for the disbanding their favourite creative team and trashed every game post SH3. "No Team Silent? This is trash. Period."

I played Downpour with very low expectations and I found out this is actually an amazing game. In terms of style and gameplay it respects "Silent Hill" franchise in every possible way. You can clearly see that those who made the game clearly understood what the franchise was about.

The Room did pretty good.

Then came Origins...then homecoming.

Shattered Memories was a Wii exclusive and then Downpour came out a broken mess of a game, I know, I played it on release.

So naturally it sold poorly due to the reviews saying how broken it was, granted it was later fixed but too little too late because that's the last main game in the series.

It died because Konami didn't exactly take care of their IP.

[SuaveMonke]

Originally posted by UTF32:

Originally posted by The Suave Monkey:

Okay, so you have a kindergarteners reading comprehension level, got it.

So you are slow.

Your every post has a nonsensical signature, something about speed. I don’t care much, but I thought you should know, because it makes you look stupid.

Lol if anyone needs to learn the definition of irony, point to this reply.

[UTF32]

Originally posted by PrinceCharming:

The Room did pretty good.

Then came Origins...then homecoming.

Shattered Memories was a Wii exclusive and then Downpour came out a broken mess of a game, I know, I played it on release.

So naturally it sold poorly due to the reviews saying how broken it was, granted it was later fixed but too little too late because that's the last main game in the series.

It died because Konami didn't exactly take care of their IP.

When The Room first came out, it was a total gem. The SH community kept discussing every pixel on screen. As years went by, I found out that it was a "disappointing" game... Go figure.

"Shattered Memories" is the best reviewed game after SH4. To me, it was a complete failure as a Silent Hill game or even as a video game in general, a painful slap to my face. After playing this game, I now disregard game reviews completely.

[Zatchel]

Originally posted by Nerves:

It may not be silent hill but at least it's not another pachinko game

REKT.

[TripleSteal-]

This might be not the most clever question I've seen being asked here.

[UTF32]

Originally posted by TripleSteal-:

This might be not the most clever question I've seen being asked here.

Every time I see "Resident Evil Chapter in DBD this summer", I have a big smile. Yes, an unpcoming RE inspired cosmetic pack, what a treasure!

[Ragnoraok]

Originally posted by Darydrus:

Originally posted by UTF32:

Well, you did manage to sc*w up in such a short paragraph? If PH is just a manifestation of James’ guilt, what the hell is he doing here? James is supposed to be dead in Silent Hill, so is the PH.

If you really follow the Silent Hill’s lore, there shouldn’t be any Cheryl or Pyramid Head here. And Midwich technically should have more levels. But I’m even talking about that, because nitpicking every lore element would be completely helpless.

I’m specifically talking about the gameplay and how each licenced chapter bring nothing more than cosmetics.



The PH perk names are inspired by the fact that he delivers punishment, yes. What do perk names have to do with the gameplay?

As for the visual manifestation of the PH ability, there is no reason to believe the same effects couldn’t be used on any potential licenced killer. They are completely arbitrry. If they chose Pinhead instead of Pyramid head, they could even have kept the perk names.

Sephiroth is dead after FF7 but he still a guest character in smash bros. and Kingdom Hearts. It's pretty much like that man.

No its not. In FF7, all instances that you we see Sephiroth were either the real Sephiroth or Jenova pretending to be Sephiroth; in either case, there was a physical entity. In FF7, Sephiroth was the manifestation of Cloud's darkness, or he very well was Sephiroth incarnate...regardless, Sephiroth was a physical entity as governed by the laws of KH.

Pyramid head is not a manifestation of a person's internal psyche. James Sunderland is dead, so how can PH exist and interact with survivors who do not share his psychological makeup? Now if James Sunderland was a survivor then this all makes sense, but he does not exist within the DbD continuity.

I am not too familiar with SH, but surely there must be an antagonist that is physical in form and independent of another person's psyche.

[Medican]

Originally posted by PrinceCharming:

Originally posted by UTF32:

Well, you did manage to sc*w up in such a short paragraph? If PH is just a manifestation of James’ guilt, what the hell is he doing here? James is supposed to be dead in Silent Hill, so is the PH.

If you really follow the Silent Hill’s lore, there shouldn’t be any Cheryl or Pyramid Head here. And Midwich technically should have more levels. But I’m even talking about that, because nitpicking every lore element would be completely helpless.

I’m specifically talking about the gameplay and how each licenced chapter bring nothing more than cosmetics.



The PH perk names are inspired by the fact that he delivers punishment, yes. What do perk names have to do with the gameplay?

As for the visual manifestation of the PH ability, there is no reason to believe the same effects couldn’t be used on any potential licenced killer. They are completely arbitrry. If they chose Pinhead instead of Pyramid head, they could even have kept the perk names.

Guy, you're not playing Silent Hill here, You're playing Dead By Daylight.

It doesn't have to make sense, it doesn't have to mean anything, it's literally just a well known character(s) from a well known game series making an appearance in a popular game.

It's seriously not that deep.

Of course it's not that deep since it's just a collab. However, points for BHVR for at least explaining how the characters ended up in the realm of the Entity and trying as much as they can to stay true to the source material while not breaking the preset rules of DBD.

[croggle]

The DLC isn't supposed to be a 1 to 1 recreation of the game similar how the left behind DLC isn't just a port for Left 4 Dead 2 it is just items, characters, perks, and cosmetics based around those franchisees nothing more nothing less.

[RotsNai]

Dear lord.. you sound extremely unhappy with not getting what you wanted from the Silent Hill Chapter. Please just leave and go play Silent Hill if your mind can't grasp what a collaboration chapter is.