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Daddy Kaneki (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 10.41
Raging Ryuga talks about the monotony of the survivor meta as a killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc2nlea9AQI
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ITWASMYCAT lähetti viestin:
Hmmmm Okay? So survivor perks DS and BT were never nerfed??
These perks have already been nerfed which is WHY they are not being nerfed.

That said, as a survivor main, Spine Chill is too OP for stealth killers. At least if they are in hiding mode, killers should not be detected (which is a HUUGE nerf).

But that said, survivors also have to change playstyle according to killer behaviors/perks. If ruin + undying > gens will start late since people will break totems. Also, once the killer knows the survivor has DH, it's no use since the killer just needs to wait it out for 1 second.

+ Do killers not care about the map reworks? They are ALWAYS going to be more hurtful on survivors since they need to re-memorize the pallet, window, totem, gen locations. Whereas the killer only needs to chase survivors.

Unless playing against SWF, this game is pretty balanced (even more killer sided for solo queue) as is. If you have a thing against SWF, just check the lobby and leave. You can't have a balance with SWF in the game.

Yeah, DS was totally nerfed. Y'know, having juggling being removed, it no longer being soft countered by enduring, gaining +1 extra seconds on its stun timer, having a bigger skill check, those skill checks always being after the 6:00 position, and those skill checks unable to be affected by unnerving presence as well. Also let's not forget that you no longer need to be the obsession to use it, so now the killer has to believe everyone has DS if there's an obsession in the match, while before the killer only had to be concerned about JUST the obsession.


Poor DS. It was nerfed soooo hard. /s
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Muriel (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 10.43 
All killer youtubers are unhappy with the state the game is. And it hasn't been the worse for killers since launch but its just the more boring and forgiving meta for survs.
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Illaoi Bot (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 10.48 
like him or not but even true talent gets annoyed more and more about the state of the game
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Hurricane 1.2.2021 klo 10.59 
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:
like him or not but even true talent gets annoyed more and more about the state of the game
His arguments are very compelling too.
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Illaoi Bot (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.01 
Hurricane lähetti viestin:
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:
like him or not but even true talent gets annoyed more and more about the state of the game
His arguments are very compelling too.


i agree with him

game should be balanced around a lot of hooks and the chance to get them

but why should a killer try to play in that direction when the game is over too fast and surv have a million ways out
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Daddy Kaneki (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.10 
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:
Hurricane lähetti viestin:
His arguments are very compelling too.


i agree with him

game should be balanced around a lot of hooks and the chance to get them

but why should a killer try to play in that direction when the game is over too fast and surv have a million ways out
Exactly. Gen speeds need to go down. I don't think it should take more hooks to kill all survivors, three per survivor is already a lot, just need slower gens
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DirtyDog 1.2.2021 klo 11.18 
Ask anyone playing what the normal surv loadout is, they'll say BT, DH, DS, Unbreakable.

It's really boring. For a game built on RNG and two sides, it's now one side getting RNG hell and the other side with a static meta and control over what maps are chosen.
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Muriel (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.19 
DirtyDog lähetti viestin:
Ask anyone playing what the normal surv loadout is, they'll say BT, DH, DS, Unbreakable.

It's really boring. For a game built on RNG and two sides, it's now one side getting RNG hell and the other side with a static meta and control over what maps are chosen.

+
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76561199130709558 (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.19 
Legion x Cheryl <3 lähetti viestin:
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:


i agree with him

game should be balanced around a lot of hooks and the chance to get them

but why should a killer try to play in that direction when the game is over too fast and surv have a million ways out
Exactly. Gen speeds need to go down. I don't think it should take more hooks to kill all survivors, three per survivor is already a lot, just need slower gens
How much time you need? Something like undying? which sounds like "I need as much time as i need" - bad players answer.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on 02e1a!dC; 1.2.2021 klo 11.20
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TripleSteal- 1.2.2021 klo 11.25 
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:
like him or not but even true talent gets annoyed more and more about the state of the game

truetalent himself is one of the most annoying personalities related to dbd that Im aware of
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Hurricane 1.2.2021 klo 11.29 
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:
Hurricane lähetti viestin:
His arguments are very compelling too.


i agree with him

game should be balanced around a lot of hooks and the chance to get them

but why should a killer try to play in that direction when the game is over too fast and surv have a million ways out
Yes but there is a big problem at the moment. While killers had to improve and face nerf after nerf to have a chance, survivors are having it easier so most aren't very good and don't even know it.

If the game was balanced today, survivors would be crushed.
This reason alone tells there will never be balance.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Hurricane; 1.2.2021 klo 11.30
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DirtyDog 1.2.2021 klo 11.33 
02e1a!dC lähetti viestin:
Legion x Cheryl <3 lähetti viestin:
Exactly. Gen speeds need to go down. I don't think it should take more hooks to kill all survivors, three per survivor is already a lot, just need slower gens
How much time you need? Something like undying? which sounds like "I need as much time as i need" - bad players answer.

Yeah obviously. Killers have to do everything on time or it's gg. You a donut or something?
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Let the Metal Live (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.33 
Funny, cause from game to game you'll see way more variety in survivor builds....killers all use the same builds that Otzdarva recommends.

And TrueTalent has always been a whiner, nothing new here, lol.

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76561199130709558 (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.34 
Hurricane lähetti viestin:
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:


i agree with him

game should be balanced around a lot of hooks and the chance to get them

but why should a killer try to play in that direction when the game is over too fast and surv have a million ways out
Yes but there is a big problem at the moment. While killers had to improve and face nerf after nerf to have a chance, survivors are having it easier so most aren't very good and don't even know it.

If the game was balanced today, survivors would be crushed.
This reason alone tells there will never be balance.
The thing is the game is balanced fine if you want it to be . The problem is players that dont want to learn how to play properly. Many killers have so much potential but most people fail to play well.
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76561199130709558 (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.36 
DirtyDog lähetti viestin:
02e1a!dC lähetti viestin:
How much time you need? Something like undying? which sounds like "I need as much time as i need" - bad players answer.

Yeah obviously. Killers have to do everything on time or it's gg. You a donut or something?
Load into a game with me i ll show you how fast i can put 4 survivors down. Will you noob?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on 02e1a!dC; 1.2.2021 klo 11.36
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Let the Metal Live (Porttikiellossa) 1.2.2021 klo 11.37 
Hurricane lähetti viestin:
Illaoi Bot lähetti viestin:


i agree with him

game should be balanced around a lot of hooks and the chance to get them

but why should a killer try to play in that direction when the game is over too fast and surv have a million ways out
Yes but there is a big problem at the moment. While killers had to improve and face nerf after nerf to have a chance, survivors are having it easier so most aren't very good and don't even know it.

If the game was balanced today, survivors would be crushed.
This reason alone tells there will never be balance.

In one year, 53 million sacrifices vs 6 million escapes...survivors ARE being crushed.
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