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Yoshinator Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:05am
Nemesis is just worse Pyramid Head
Why did they make nemesis so bad? I just started playing again about a week ago grinding on Pyramid Head because I was excited to see silent Hill finally get some love after it's been abandoned by Konami and he is really good. Nemesis however feels so horrible to play after grinding with Pyramid Head for so long. His whip is pathetic compared to PH's ranged attack, leveling up the whip up to three feels pointless since it only increases your range by one meter (bringing it up to 6) which is worse than PH's 8. The whip is extremely inconsistent on what it can go over and needs to hit 3 times on a healthy killer. Contamination is horrible, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 20% slow for 0.25 seconds, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ how incredible!! Meanwhile pyramid head applies a ton of pressure with the trail, he forces you to make a choice either take the trail and get insta caged/killed or you try running somewhere else and most likely get hit or normal hooked.

I'm still relatively fresh player and I really hope I'm just being bad because Nemesis just feels awful to his awesome appearances in Resident Evil 3 and Ultimate Marvel.
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you are just bad i always get rekt vs a good nemesis he is kinda op
76561199075911057 Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:09am 
Devs really need to buff his power, increase the range of his tentacle also change red addons because they are utter trash. Nemesis needs good perks and op addons to perform good in matches from what i've heard...lmao
P1 Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:17am 
Pick 1:

- Started to play a week ago
- Have an understanding of the game which allows you to properly address balance of a killer
HelenaEX2 Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:18am 
How "fresh" player you are. BC if you are on the ranks 20-10 is you are doing something wrong.

Nemesis needs 3 hits IF the survivor is not infected, but the long attack is increased, you can also increase nemesis range killing the zombies and far as i know Pyramhid cannot destroy and hurt a survivor at the same time with the long range attack, something nemesis does.

I wont say pyramid head is better than nemesis or nemesis better than PH, both are equal. they had their own pros and cons, but if you belive nemesis is bad then you should consider say the same for PH bc his "special" is put the survivor on a cage and that cage ALWAYS spawn close for a unbusy survivor and far away from the killer.

If you ask me, play against both killers is like a regular game, both are mid range killers and both are really predictible where they are going to "shoot". Play against huntress, nurse, spirit still being anoying. But PH and nemesis, nah. Unless the killer know how to mind game or change in the last second the range attack is not hard to handle both, at least nemesis has more gen pressure than pyramid head for the zombies, is anoying had the gen in 75% and a zombie respawning next to him. A free gen stop and notification for the killer (bc he can see where the zombie is aiming and know if theres a survivor in there or not).
MessiahofMelons Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:21am 
I think nemisis is pretty good tbh. The whip once you reach rank 2 and can hit over pallets is really nice for loops. Either they drop it and get hit or they drop it and i instant break it. Works great with spirit fury enduring combo. The rank 3 isnt too crazy, but it has nice range while being very fast. Way harder to dodge than pyramid heads. Then the zombies when they work, work so well they basicly nullify hallways and loops. They even occasionally camp and push people off gens while giving you map wide information.

He is far from the best but i think hes pretty great. I wouldn't call him a worse pyramid head. More like a side grade
Hangman (Banned) Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:22am 
His power make him even worse than Legion because when Legion use his power he can harm ppl ( even many at one time ) but Nemesis need to hit 3 TIMES NOT 2 to down player because first one is just useless infection and ZERO dmg or any side effects, this dont spread like with plague and his Power is not worth to build up like with ONI who one shoot kill everyone when he got whole bar of blood plus run and close loops
HelenaEX2 Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by pavel8585:
His power make him even worse than Legion because when Legion use his power he can harm ppl ( even many at one time ) but Nemesis need to hit 3 TIMES NOT 2 to down player because first one is just useless infection and ZERO dmg or any side effects, this dont spread like with plague and his Power is not worth to build up like with ONI who one shoot kill everyone when he got whole bar of blood plus run and close loops
Oh the plague... That killer is ♥♥♥♥ up if no one cure the infection but they loop her well.

Idk if compare nemesis with plague. Plague is useless against good survivors, even if they cure the infection, one stun and the corrupted infection is gone. She is awesome against average survivors but play against a good survivors who dont cure and they know how to loop and stay injured all the match she is useless.
Goblets Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:31am 
nemesis is not too bad when he reach tier 3

he's also good against solo teams, as they dont do gens and he and any other killer have an infinite time to do 4 kills

or you mean vs swf?
Harmonica Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:32am 
Pyramid Head is busted when played properly so not really a fair comparison.

I think Nemesis is a fine middle ground killer that creates fun matches, especially in mid and assumedly low rank games. Whether they can find a build that works in red ranks is as always a different issue. But most players aren't playing in red ranks.
Last edited by Harmonica; Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:33am
kabanzai (Banned) Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Yoshinator:
Why did they make nemesis so bad? I just started playing again about a week ago grinding on Pyramid Head because I was excited to see silent Hill finally get some love after it's been abandoned by Konami and he is really good. Nemesis however feels so horrible to play after grinding with Pyramid Head for so long. His whip is pathetic compared to PH's ranged attack, leveling up the whip up to three feels pointless since it only increases your range by one meter (bringing it up to 6) which is worse than PH's 8. The whip is extremely inconsistent on what it can go over and needs to hit 3 times on a healthy killer. Contamination is horrible, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 20% slow for 0.25 seconds, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ how incredible!! Meanwhile pyramid head applies a ton of pressure with the trail, he forces you to make a choice either take the trail and get insta caged/killed or you try running somewhere else and most likely get hit or normal hooked.

I'm still relatively fresh player and I really hope I'm just being bad because Nemesis just feels awful to his awesome appearances in Resident Evil 3 and Ultimate Marvel.
Honestly? I'm enjoying him. The right perks and he's just mean. TRICK: Kill zombies yourself to charge up early.
Mergim Hoxha Jun 16, 2021 @ 2:47am 
zombies generate free map pressure. you can use his tentacle to hit survivors over vaults or through pallets. its much harder for them to stealth around if theyre infected.
Goober Jun 16, 2021 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by Jill's Sandwich:
Devs really need to buff his power, increase the range of his tentacle also change red addons because they are utter trash. Nemesis needs good perks and op addons to perform good in matches from what i've heard...lmao
IMO Nemi Performs good in matches, I'm a noob killer but I've been getting by, Also they don't need to increase the range of his tentacle at all, after a couple hit with it (plus killing zombies with it) you are at lvl 3 and IMO it had a pretty good range plus being able to break pallets and breakable walls with it is tuff. and players will have to think twice before dropping a pallet since you can hit them over it.
Hangman (Banned) Jun 16, 2021 @ 4:37am 
Originally posted by swagger21:
zombies generate free map pressure. you can use his tentacle to hit survivors over vaults or through pallets. its much harder for them to stealth around if theyre infected.
What pressure ? :steamfacepalm: there is 2 of them ONLY and most of map is Big or Huge for zombies that move slow as slugged surv and they are so dumb that they STUCK in every corner, shack, wall etc. In small maps they are ok on stairs when surv want to go up or down and they will have "lucky shot" , i can me more pressure with in one sec with Demogorgon, Freddie, Pyramid head, Blight, Oni, Nurse, Wraith, Boba, Hag etc. I payed £6 for this DLC and its wasted money because i dont play survivals and im not RES fanboy ( i like lore and old games when they were scary like old 1,2,3 and 7 )
Hangman (Banned) Jun 16, 2021 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Norm:
Originally posted by Jill's Sandwich:
Devs really need to buff his power, increase the range of his tentacle also change red addons because they are utter trash. Nemesis needs good perks and op addons to perform good in matches from what i've heard...lmao
IMO Nemi Performs good in matches, I'm a noob killer but I've been getting by, Also they don't need to increase the range of his tentacle at all, after a couple hit with it (plus killing zombies with it) you are at lvl 3 and IMO it had a pretty good range plus being able to break pallets and breakable walls with it is tuff. and players will have to think twice before dropping a pallet since you can hit them over it.
higher level surv will not even allow you smite them and trial usually ends in 5 min when you dont kill them very fast or you dont force them to do something else ( like heal after hits from Deathslinger or help others after Twins slugging etc ) Nemesis got 2 dumb and slow zombies that are easy to avoid in DAY ONE of launch by every surv and after a week every surv will know the tactics to kill them or not even allow start the chase
Hangman (Banned) Jun 16, 2021 @ 4:52am 
Otzdarva is streaming now and after playing beta and now life he said "NEMESIS IS A WORSE PYRAMID" , bdw zombies should show you where to go with hands up animation ( chasing ) but this is bugged or just dont work and its just a fake
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2021 @ 1:05am
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