Okay, it's time for some LGBTQ characters

[Depressed Catfish]

We've got 51 characters in DBD, even more if you count Legion as more than 1, yet there's no LGBTQ characters yet. The Western World's population is roughly 6% LGBTQ, meaning statistically at least 2 characters should've been LGBTQ by now. Is the entity avoiding LGBTQ people, because it's starting to look like the lack of LGBTQ people is deliberate. And this problem will only get worse the more cis heterosexual characters are added.

I know that not a lot of characters are explicitly cis heterosexual's, but unfortunately an undefined sexuality is assumed to be heterosexual and the same with cisgender. A game with a confirmed cast of cis heterosexuals and a game with a cast with no defined sexuality are almost the same when it comes to inclusiveness, which is a shame because Dead by Daylight clearly wants to be inclusive. But nothing you do will ever amount to the inclusiveness you would gain by adding a LGBTQ character. I even get the impression that DBD wants to be inclusive, but doesn't want to add a LGBTQ character to avoid angering the homophobic market, or more accurately the "keep politics out of games" demographic.

[limierr]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Depressed Catfish:

We've got 51 characters in DBD, even more if you count Legion as more than 1, yet there's no LGBTQ characters yet. The Western World's population is roughly 6% LGBTQ, meaning statistically at least 2 characters should've been LGBTQ by now. Is the entity avoiding LGBTQ people, because it's starting to look like the lack of LGBTQ people is deliberate. And this problem will only get worse the more cis heterosexual characters are added.

I know that not a lot of characters are explicitly cis heterosexual's, but unfortunately an undefined sexuality is assumed to be heterosexual and the same with cisgender. A game with a confirmed cast of cis heterosexuals and a game with a cast with no defined sexuality are almost the same when it comes to inclusiveness, which is a shame because Dead by Daylight clearly wants to be inclusive. But nothing you do will ever amount to the inclusiveness you would gain by adding a LGBTQ character. I even get the impression that DBD wants to be inclusive, but doesn't want to add a LGBTQ character to avoid angering the homophobic market, or more accurately the "keep politics out of games" demographic.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Depressed Catfish:

We've got 51 characters in DBD, even more if you count Legion as more than 1, yet there's no LGBTQ characters yet. The Western World's population is roughly 6% LGBTQ, meaning statistically at least 2 characters should've been LGBTQ by now. Is the entity avoiding LGBTQ people, because it's starting to look like the lack of LGBTQ people is deliberate. And this problem will only get worse the more cis heterosexual characters are added.

I know that not a lot of characters are explicitly cis heterosexual's, but unfortunately an undefined sexuality is assumed to be heterosexual and the same with cisgender. A game with a confirmed cast of cis heterosexuals and a game with a cast with no defined sexuality are almost the same when it comes to inclusiveness, which is a shame because Dead by Daylight clearly wants to be inclusive. But nothing you do will ever amount to the inclusiveness you would gain by adding a LGBTQ character. I even get the impression that DBD wants to be inclusive, but doesn't want to add a LGBTQ character to avoid angering the homophobic market, or more accurately the "keep politics out of games" demographic.

How do you define the sexual orientation of character ? I mean out of ace who got a ring and Susie …

[YottaYobi]

I personally think the huntress is lesbian

[BubbaLovesYa-TTV]

You guys wonder why every other character in Apex Legends is gay? because of people like this. Why does sexuality even matter. Do people really look at their surv and go "Oh man, they're not gay :/ I hate playing them"? Also I don't think any of the characters period have a confirmed sexuality.

They literally made a pride charm and that's still not enough for them I guess.

[call me handsome]

Sorry but this is really silly. We have so many characters that don't have even defined their orientation so you can imagine what they are. I thought LGBTQ community was against stereotypes? do we really need a character that? The game is filled with bugs and other problems and those should always be priority over cosmetics

I also know for the fact that if Devs release gay/ LGBTQ character there will be snowflakes upset complaining that they released "over the top" stereotypical gay character.

[Potato Salad]

Doesnt matter. Stop making the rest of the world who do not agree with this seem like evil people. We are not. You slap labels on people and harass them for not pushing your stance.

[seir_]

Think about the toxicity when an actual homophobe playing as killer only ever tunnels and camps the LG characters.
The devs would get a lot of flak for not being able to deal with this kind of behavior.

[Depressed Catfish]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από call me handsome:

Sorry but this is really silly. We have so many characters that don't have even defined their orientation so you can imagine what they are. I thought LGBTQ community was against stereotypes? do we really need a character that? The game is filled with bugs and other problems and those should always be priority over cosmetics

I also know for the fact that if Devs release gay/ LGBTQ character there will be snowflakes upset complaining that they released "over the top" stereotypical gay character.

The teams for balance or gameplay are different than the teams who make characters. It's not the coder's who are gonna be planning this character. Plus, the creative team making characters is going to be making characters anyway, so it's not exactly harder to make one unique. And I'm sorry, but claiming that snowflakes would complain if one was added while complaining about why one shouldn't be added is ironic. Especially since LGBTQ representation means a lot to LGBTQ people, while it shouldn't affect your gameplay at all.

[Depressed Catfish]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από seir_:

Think about the toxicity when an actual homophobe playing as killer only ever tunnels and camps the LG characters.
The devs would get a lot of flak for not being able to deal with this kind of behavior.

I don't think the reason that we can't have LGBTQ characters is because homophobes play the game.

Plus people get tunneled lots as is, so unless the killer explicity say's they tunneled you because you were playing a LGBTQ character then I don't think anyone would even notice something out of the ordinary. And if they do say that, then BHVR can act.

[call me handsome]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Depressed Catfish:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από call me handsome:

Sorry but this is really silly. We have so many characters that don't have even defined their orientation so you can imagine what they are. I thought LGBTQ community was against stereotypes? do we really need a character that? The game is filled with bugs and other problems and those should always be priority over cosmetics

I also know for the fact that if Devs release gay/ LGBTQ character there will be snowflakes upset complaining that they released "over the top" stereotypical gay character.

The teams for balance or gameplay are different than the teams who make characters. It's not the coder's who are gonna be planning this character. Plus, the creative team making characters is going to be making characters anyway, so it's not exactly harder to make one unique. And I'm sorry, but claiming that snowflakes would complain if one was added while complaining about why one shouldn't be added is ironic. Especially since LGBTQ representation means a lot to LGBTQ people, while it shouldn't affect your gameplay at all.

You fail to see the big picture entirely. What is any gaming company's number 1 priority? to make money.

I'm sure their risk management team has already thought problems that this can cause.
First of all this is most toxic game i've ever played. Some players sole purpose is to make you angry, upset. I know some of my female friends get tunneled more by killers if their profile mentions anything abaut their gender

I know for the fact that if they release stereotypical gay looking character, that person will get camped& tunneled more and harashed.

This can cause negative influence from mainstream media of dead by daylight being toxic homophobic game, which will directly hurt dbd devs money income.

[Spiegel]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Depressed Catfish:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από call me handsome:

Sorry but this is really silly. We have so many characters that don't have even defined their orientation so you can imagine what they are. I thought LGBTQ community was against stereotypes? do we really need a character that? The game is filled with bugs and other problems and those should always be priority over cosmetics

I also know for the fact that if Devs release gay/ LGBTQ character there will be snowflakes upset complaining that they released "over the top" stereotypical gay character.

The teams for balance or gameplay are different than the teams who make characters. It's not the coder's who are gonna be planning this character. Plus, the creative team making characters is going to be making characters anyway, so it's not exactly harder to make one unique. And I'm sorry, but claiming that snowflakes would complain if one was added while complaining about why one shouldn't be added is ironic. Especially since LGBTQ representation means a lot to LGBTQ people, while it shouldn't affect your gameplay at all.

Those who have no backstory of laying in bed with same sex or whatever you can use as your LGTBSG playground. Please, majority of people don't want that representation, what stops you from representing some playable character as it is something like that?

[Nijo]

As a member of the LGBTQ community this is just insulting. The character backgrounds are kept vague except for why they are there so players can fill in the gaps themselves.

I don't need a character who is explicitly non binary to "feel seen. So not only would that alienate the 94% percent of the western world who aren't LGBTQ, it would alienate a great deal of the 6% too.

Let the game be inclusive by tackling homophobia, and not token characters.

[user]

but there already are lgbt survivors in this game? so this is a bait thread then

[Spiegel]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nijo:

As a member of the LGBTQ community this is just insulting. The character backgrounds are kept vague except for why they are there so players can fill in the gaps themselves.

I don't need a character who is explicitly non binary to "feel seen. So not only would that alienate the 94% percent of the western world who aren't LGBTQ, it would alienate a great deal of the 6% too.

Let the game be inclusive by tackling homophobia, and not token characters.

I have a lot of respect for people who don't need "I AM LGBTQ MEMBER" painted on them, but instead use their intelligence, skills, etc to express themselves. This is how it is supposed to be, and nobody would be hatin'.

[Depressed Catfish]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από LastResort554:

does it really matter?

Yes. It may not look like it matters if you aren't part of a marginalized group, but it makes a real difference to the people being under represented. One guy on this thread said he would cry (tears of joy) if a they/them was added, and I can see why. I can't name a single they/them character in any medium, which shows how rare it is. Having a character which represents a part of you that never get's acknowledged in media is important. Almost every character in every media is a cis heterosexual, yet anytime any other sexuality wants to be represented there is backlash. I'm sure it's deleted by now by mods, but there was a post as a response to this one titled "Literally no one cares about your sexuality" where they used the phrase "entitled gays."

Would it actually bother you if a character were to be LGBTQ in some way? Because it can make a world of difference to a lot of people, and if you want to take that away simply because sexuality isn't important to you then you need to rethink why you care so much.

[Depressed Catfish]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από kadeyy:

but there already are lgbt survivors in this game? so this is a bait thread then

There aren't. Not one. Not a bisexual, or an asexual, or anything. I've read backgrounds, I googled it, I read every comment on this thread, so trust me that there isn't.