Why do killers have a DC penalty?

[Grim]

Completely sincere question.

If a survivor gets forced to deal with a tunneling/camping/BMing killer, unhelpful teammates, etc, they can self-sacrifice on hook for no DC penalty. If a killer is forced to deal with toxic survivors, teabagging, "bully the killer" SWF builds, endless flashlight blinds and pallet loops and survivors who clearly won't permit you to do your challenge… You can't do a damn thing about it. You have to hope that the survivors will finish gens and leave quickly instead of holding the game hostage.

Or you can DC to save yourself the time and stress, and in return get prevented from playing the game you spent $20+ on for a whole 60 minutes.

If a survivor DCs, they put their teammates at an immense disadvantage for the entire rest of the game. They basically lose the game for their teammates 90% of the time. If the killer DCs… The survivors have to go back into queue for like 5 minutes. These aren't equal scenarios. I understand the DC penalty on survivors, but not on killers.

Make it so that survivors keep their consumables, are guaranteed a safety pip (plus any gained pips they DID earn in the match), and call them "escaped". Killer loses their consumables, gets 0 BP, probably loses a pip, and gets to go into a new match that probably isn't full of sweaty tryhards. I don't see the problem if killers have no DC penalty.

Can anyone provide a real argument for why killers SHOULD have a DC penalty?

[Stroggs]

Messaggio originale di The Grim Grimoire:

Can anyone provide a real argument

git gud

[Δ︎MΞ︎NTIH ✬]

Somebody posted about the exact same topic just last night.

Killers do get dc penalties just as survivors because some killers dc just because someone found their hex totem, or because they couldn't catch that one survivor who is looping them for 30 seconds, or because gens are getting done while they haven't hooked enough survivors yet.

Killers perform bad & rage quit. Therefore dc penalty, because they waste time of 4 other people in that match.

If you're not in the mood to play DbD then don't start the match. If you're not in the mood to handle other people then do not start a match.

If you're getting bullied every once in a while then DC & wait those 4 minutes.

[Local Dog]

I dunno man. You got kinda point but firstly 1 DC is 5 minutes. You had to DC multiple times to time got so up. Sometimes survivor ques are long (longer than 5 mimutes). Also kinda wonder how survivors wont permit your challange... like ??? And lastly nothing is stopping you to go into corner and turn netflix on or do irl things meanwhile game ends, you can also just open gate yourself.

[Zack]

Just slug

[Grim]

Messaggio originale di Δ︎MΞ︎NTIH ✬:

Therefore dc penalty, because they waste time of 4 other people in that match.

Isn't it just a bigger waste of time for everyone involved to go through the match as if there's a chance of anything fun happening? Survivors are gonna keep outplaying you, pallet stunning, flashlight blinding, teabagging, gens get rushed, they troll around in the exit gates for 2 minutes even though the doors are open. Why's it "wasting time" to cut the game short so they can move on to the next?

Survivors can do it by self-sacrificing. Why don't killers have that luxury?

Messaggio originale di La Boof:

Also kinda wonder how survivors wont permit your challange... like ???

I have a challenge that I posted about recently — Hit 6 survivors who have been affected by Blood Echo. This means a few things:

1. You need to be able to hit the survivors in the match
   
2. You need to be able to down survivors in the match
   
3. You need to be able to bring a downed survivor to the hook without getting sabotaged/Breakout'd/bodyblocked/etc
   
4. You need to pray to god that the other survivors don't rush out a team heal in the time it takes you to hook the person and then go find their sorry behinds.

So yeah. Not every lobby is going to be good for this. You can usually tell about 5 minutes into the match whether or not you even have a CHANCE at getting the challenge done. And when it doesn't look like I have a chance at doing the challenge, why should I be forced to sit through a 20 minute match for no reason? I don't care about BP at this point.

Messaggio originale di La Boof:

And lastly nothing is stopping you to ho into corner and turn netflix on or do irl things meanwhile game ends, you can also just open gate yourself.

Yeah, but that's still a waste of time. Not as much as the stupid DC penalty, maybe, but until all the generators are done you are literally at the mercy of the survivors and have to hope that they will actually do the generators instead of holding the game hostage to troll. And even when you let them do the generators and open the door, 9 times out of 10 they will wait until the very last second of the EGC, just to spite you.

I shouldn't have to sit through that. I want to play the game I bought.

Messaggio originale di Zack:

Just slug

You do realize that survivors can heal each other up from being slugged, right? Good luck getting all 4 down at once.

[Stroggs]

Messaggio originale di The Grim Grimoire:

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You do realize that survivors can heal each other up from being slugged, right? Good luck getting all 4 down at once.

i call it slug races. the winner gets to the hatch.

[Mewsha]

Yeah it's called not being a baby if you're going to play PvP games.

You're never going to get better if you always give up anytime you're presented with a tough situation, and I say this as someone who does play killer.

It's annoying having people waste everyone's time. Your time is not more precious than anyone else's, so if you DC, and force everyone to wait through a queue, lobby time, and loading screen as well as half the game, you absolutely should be hit with a penalty.

This argument is especially ridiculous because you only one side to have no DC penalty.

All we're hearing is a lot of me me me.

Please get over yourself. Other people paid for the game too. You're not better than anyone else, so you absolutely should be subject to the same rules, especially now that there's the End Game Collapse where you can open the gates yourself.

[😎Astran😾]

If anything d/c penalty result in uninstalled games.

This whole game look like an experiment - how many mistakes the company can make before the player base migrate to competitors? The problem is - there are no competitors so the devs can do whatever. And they do exactly that - guessing what is good for the game?

Often the result of the dev's best effort is an uninstall procedure since the person who d-c-ed is alreafy angry and stressed while penalty add insult to injury - so why even keep a game like this? It doesn't have even half-decent matchmaking 5 years later.

[Evil Minіоn]

Why are you punished for preventing four other players from playing the game because they don't play the way you like? We shall never know...

[Snow]

Messaggio originale di Astran:

If anything d/c penalty result in uninstalled games.

This whole game look like an experiment - how many mistakes the company can make before the player base migrate to competitors? The problem is - there are no competitors so the devs can do whatever. And they do exactly that - guessing what is good for the game? Often the result of their best effort is an uninstall procedure since the person who d-c-ed is alreafy angry and stressed so why not?

Good. Let them Uninstall. The 4 Other players in the match will be happy never to have their time wasted by said player again.

If they're already that "angry and stressed" they should take a break anyway. The DC Penalty helps with that. Sorry you Can't Cherry pick Matches at the expense of others without being penalized anymore.

[Δ︎MΞ︎NTIH ✬]

Messaggio originale di The Grim Grimoire:

Isn't it just a bigger waste of time for everyone involved to go through the match as if there's a chance of anything fun happening? Survivors are gonna keep outplaying you, pallet stunning, flashlight blinding, teabagging, gens get rushed, they troll around in the exit gates for 2 minutes even though the doors are open. Why's it "wasting time" to cut the game short so they can move on to the next?

Survivors can do it by self-sacrificing. Why don't killers have that luxury?

No, because not ALL survivors troll around & are toxic. Some just play the game casually & still perform better than the killer. & because of that many killers already do dc even with dc penalty. Imagine being entitled enough to only stay in a match as long as YOU are the only one having a good time. If you underperform then it happens. We all get outplayed from time to time, doesn't mean we should just leave the match because we don't get our 4k gifted from the get go, no?

Examples: I spawned right next to a HEX totem & cleansed it. Turned out to be Ruin & the killer left the match right away.

I looped the killer for a minute straight. They didn't go for someone else & lost 3 gens in the progress, so they left the game.

Killer just got their Devour Hope stacks to 4 to one shot everybody. I found the totem rather quick & the killer left the game.

I stunned the killer twice during a match while they missed their hits on me during the chase, killer left the game.

& this is why dc penalty is a thing for both sides. Because some killers won't finish their matches as long as it's not going as they want it to go.

[⎛⎝Melina⎠⎞]

Why are you even trying when swf team starts bullying y? Leave the match for them or go farm , do your missions with them. You care about the rank ? It's nothing. It's just a game where you try to have fun, whenever I see players playing on their lives for the exit gate I go around make some coffe and go back to start a new game.

[Keyrala]

If you're afraid of survivors you can always go hide in the basement and wait until they deceide to leave the game.

Just like killers can refuse hooking someone that obviously want to die, by slugging them each time they come at you pointing at hooks because their friend died early.

[Grim]

Messaggio originale di HEX: I LOVE YOU:

Why are you even trying when swf team starts bullying y? Leave the match for them […] You care about the rank ?

I don't care about rank and I'd love to leave the match. That's rather the point of the original post lol

Killers who are willing to put up with an SWF's crap are a dime a dozen. I don't think they're too put out if one person in a blue moon would DC on them.

[JDGames]

Killers should have a DC penalty because when they DC the entire game ends, and god knows why this still happens but we lose add ons and offerings.