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Naafiri Simp 2020년 11월 25일 오후 12시 39분
Self Care + Botany Knowledge=?
How do healing bonuses work with self care? does it half the bonuses? or do they override it by a %?
첫 게시자: Esposa Cama Voadora:
With Self-Care + Botany will take 24 seconds to fully heal

Explanation: You need 16 charges to flll up the healing bar to complete the heal. Normally, with a med-kit, you put 1 charge per second, taking normal 16 seconds to heal.

Now with Self-Care, you heal by 50% of the normal speed, it means you will be putting 0.5 charges per second insteade of 1.0, so (0.5 X 32) = 16, so it will take 32 seconds to heal with self care. With Botany, the healing speed is increased by 33%, so you will be putting 0.66 charges per second, (0.66 x 24) = 16, so it will take 24 seconds to fully heal. You will always need to reach 16 charges to fully complete the action, so just multiply the charge for the time needed.

And yes it does stacks with other perks that increase healing speed. Desperate Measures for example, with 1 stack, it increased by 14%, combined with Botany, you will be putting 0.73 charges per second, so (0.73 X 22) = 16, taking 22 seconds to heal.

With 4 stacks of Desperate Measures (56% increase) + Botany Knowledge (33% increase) + Self-Care (original 0.5 charges per second) = You will be putting 0.94 charges per second, (0.94 x 17) = 16(15.98 to be precise), so with all these stacked, you can heal in 16 seconds, the same speed that you heal using a med-kit or other survivor.

Just to make it clear, the bonus healing is from the base value. So you need to get the % from the 0.5 from the original Self-Care value, and not from the cumulative charges from other healing speed perks.
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The AIPAC IS FUNDING HIS RIFLE. 2020년 11월 25일 오후 12시 41분 
It fastens up the heal time you have with self care to 35 sec to 21 (Or atleast from what I've heard.)
Ackranome (차단됨) 2020년 11월 25일 오후 12시 42분 
with a med kit
wizard master結城晶子リ (차단됨) 2020년 11월 25일 오후 1시 02분 
does notwork on your self it works healing others
Spud the Spud 2020년 11월 25일 오후 1시 27분 
wizard master結城晶子リ님이 먼저 게시:
does notwork on your self it works healing others

This is not true.
Spud the Spud 2020년 11월 25일 오후 1시 43분 
SoulLess님이 먼저 게시:
do your team a favour and dont use self care

Cris1064님이 먼저 게시:
It fastens up the heal time you have with self care to 35 sec to 21 (Or atleast from what I've heard.)
unless that is actually true^^ but still 2 perk slots wasted

It's true. Also, botany knowledge affects healing others as well, so it's never a wasted slot. Most useful to counter mangled, which slows down healing, it's almost a 1:1 counter, bringing the total healing time pretty close to normal without modifiers. Not exactly, but I don't remember the difference, it's close.

It's one of the better perks, though obviously not for all builds.
limierr 2020년 11월 25일 오후 2시 08분 
Fyre님이 먼저 게시:
How do healing bonuses work with self care? does it half the bonuses? or do they override it by a %?
From memory with self care and botany up , without any slow down perk you heal slower than if a mate heal you by a few seconds .
For the combo , all depend of your. Do you feel confident to drop two perks slot for that ? If yes go ahead.
HUNGRY AS A HIPPY 2020년 11월 25일 오후 5시 37분 
Self-care + Botany Knowlegde = 20 second heal down from 24.

Botany knowledge + normal heal (16 seconds) = 12 seconds.
Naafiri Simp 2020년 11월 25일 오후 5시 39분 
HUNGRY AS A HIPPY님이 먼저 게시:
Self-care + Botany Knowlegde = 20 second heal down from 24.

Botany knowledge + normal heal (16 seconds) = 12 seconds.
What if you add in the bonus from uhh Desperate measures with 4 injured lads?
Ackranome (차단됨) 2020년 11월 25일 오후 6시 59분 
Fyre님이 먼저 게시:
HUNGRY AS A HIPPY님이 먼저 게시:
Self-care + Botany Knowlegde = 20 second heal down from 24.

Botany knowledge + normal heal (16 seconds) = 12 seconds.
What if you add in the bonus from uhh Desperate measures with 4 injured lads?

Des Measures I think drops it by 10 seconds.
Echorion 2020년 11월 25일 오후 7시 48분 
SoulLess님이 먼저 게시:
do your team a favour and dont use self care

Cris1064님이 먼저 게시:
It fastens up the heal time you have with self care to 35 sec to 21 (Or atleast from what I've heard.)
unless that is actually true^^ but still 2 perk slots wasted

They run it with urban evasion and just hide from the killer, hook farm survivors, and self care safely hidden. Going around breaking totems and whatever else

It's not helpful by any means but it gets them enough to usually pip or safety pip, and a lot of BP in general even if they get lousy teammates.

People do it to basically be proactive and be the crappy teammate themselves first; before others can be.
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Incariuz 2020년 11월 25일 오후 7시 56분 
It will increase self care healing speed, but honestly, self care is such a waste of time, and giving up another slot to speed it up even more so.
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Esposa Cama Voadora 2020년 11월 25일 오후 7시 58분 
With Self-Care + Botany will take 24 seconds to fully heal

Explanation: You need 16 charges to flll up the healing bar to complete the heal. Normally, with a med-kit, you put 1 charge per second, taking normal 16 seconds to heal.

Now with Self-Care, you heal by 50% of the normal speed, it means you will be putting 0.5 charges per second insteade of 1.0, so (0.5 X 32) = 16, so it will take 32 seconds to heal with self care. With Botany, the healing speed is increased by 33%, so you will be putting 0.66 charges per second, (0.66 x 24) = 16, so it will take 24 seconds to fully heal. You will always need to reach 16 charges to fully complete the action, so just multiply the charge for the time needed.

And yes it does stacks with other perks that increase healing speed. Desperate Measures for example, with 1 stack, it increased by 14%, combined with Botany, you will be putting 0.73 charges per second, so (0.73 X 22) = 16, taking 22 seconds to heal.

With 4 stacks of Desperate Measures (56% increase) + Botany Knowledge (33% increase) + Self-Care (original 0.5 charges per second) = You will be putting 0.94 charges per second, (0.94 x 17) = 16(15.98 to be precise), so with all these stacked, you can heal in 16 seconds, the same speed that you heal using a med-kit or other survivor.

Just to make it clear, the bonus healing is from the base value. So you need to get the % from the 0.5 from the original Self-Care value, and not from the cumulative charges from other healing speed perks.
SirCiphers 2020년 11월 25일 오후 8시 39분 
Self care +Botany knowledge =50+33=83% of normal healing speed~19 seconds
Naafiri Simp 2020년 11월 26일 오전 11시 52분 
KeesT님이 먼저 게시:
With Self-Care + Botany will take 24 seconds to fully heal

Explanation: You need 16 charges to flll up the healing bar to complete the heal. Normally, with a med-kit, you put 1 charge per second, taking normal 16 seconds to heal.

Now with Self-Care, you heal by 50% of the normal speed, it means you will be putting 0.5 charges per second insteade of 1.0, so (0.5 X 32) = 16, so it will take 32 seconds to heal with self care. With Botany, the healing speed is increased by 33%, so you will be putting 0.66 charges per second, (0.66 x 24) = 16, so it will take 24 seconds to fully heal. You will always need to reach 16 charges to fully complete the action, so just multiply the charge for the time needed.

And yes it does stacks with other perks that increase healing speed. Desperate Measures for example, with 1 stack, it increased by 14%, combined with Botany, you will be putting 0.73 charges per second, so (0.73 X 22) = 16, taking 22 seconds to heal.

With 4 stacks of Desperate Measures (56% increase) + Botany Knowledge (33% increase) + Self-Care (original 0.5 charges per second) = You will be putting 0.94 charges per second, (0.94 x 17) = 16(15.98 to be precise), so with all these stacked, you can heal in 16 seconds, the same speed that you heal using a med-kit or other survivor.

Just to make it clear, the bonus healing is from the base value. So you need to get the % from the 0.5 from the original Self-Care value, and not from the cumulative charges from other healing speed perks.
Thanks much for the real in-depth explaination! Was wonderin' how all that would work an' such.
SirCiphers 2020년 11월 26일 오후 3시 23분 
Bruh the calculations are wrong lol,you must divide

For self-care+botany,so 50+33=83% of normal. If you were to take 16/24x100=66% which is completely wrong.

Correct: 16/19x100~83% so its 19 seconds

Unless Botany changes the base to 130% of normal then halving it with self care then i would agree.

Edit: Ignore this i made a mistake and the above answer is completely correct i had to search a healing video to confirm lol
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