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Sountrex (Banned) Oct 3, 2020 @ 12:33am
Do ranks matter in DBD?
No its not a salty rant its a genuine question. I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on this and why they do/don't matter.
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Masadaeus Oct 3, 2020 @ 12:34am 
Personally, I don't think so. Rank 1 didn't take me very long for both Killer and Survivor, I just think it's there for the people who like accomplishment and maybe some sort of messed up matchmaking system lmao
NecroMaster (Banned) Oct 3, 2020 @ 12:36am 
They don’t and you have swf to thank for that.

Swf cheeses survivors into a rank they don’t deserve and when they start getting thrashed by higher ranked more experienced killers they think killers are op.

Killers aren’t op those survivors just rose the ranks too quickly and never had the chance to develop proper looping skills on the way and now the better killers are having to clean up trash.
Juzi the Shark Oct 3, 2020 @ 12:48am 
Yesn't? With the current system you can easily rank up on both sides by just playing the game enough, so it is possible to be on one end of the spectrum of "skill" and reach rank one on either side.

I've seen many people at rank 1 that also had lots of hours and well. They weren't in their shiny glory to compete where as others, on both sides, were able to show that rank 1 meant they apparently did something right.

But generally, with the current matchmaking, play enough and you will get rank 1.
α︎ssist Oct 3, 2020 @ 12:48am 
yes they do, but not as much as a representation of skill and experience. More as an indicator for general style of gameplay and convenience. Sounds weird but imo Rank1 on survivor side is a baseline for somewhat competent players, at least they're playing towards the objective, rescuing and can run the killer for more than 5 seconds. Most know which actions are useful and how to make points, so they don't only hop from gen to gen and escape with 13k points. Many make mistakes but at least they know what they're trying to achieve with a specific action. On the killer side it's the same, most highrank killers don't want to tunnel one guy all game long and have a 3man escape with 10k points, so they play in a way that's ultimately also less frustrating for survivors.
The ranking system has severe flaws though, first of all it's based on activity since it resets each month. Average players who play a lot will inflate red ranks while great players with less time might stay below. Second, we have incredibly strong perks in this game, so an objectively better player who doesn't play the full meta potentially gets less pips than a potato with a meta build. You see these perk-carried people a lot on rank1. Also SWF is a thing and there's a ton of players who don't quite understand the game fully, only hop on gens and have their better friends do the actual job. They still will eventually hit rank1 if they keep playing together
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Jackal Eyes Oct 3, 2020 @ 1:22am 
It does.
Does this mean that all rank 1 players are awesome and all rank 10 are garbage? Of course not. Remember that DBD's survivors are the most boosted players on earth (second chances, easy objectives, SWF...) but a red rank match is usually much harder than a yellow rank match so yes, I would say it matters.
SotvānZander Oct 3, 2020 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by Sountrex:
No its not a salty rant its a genuine question. I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on this and why they do/don't matter.
I got the game like month ago in 38 hours I got rank 2 killer so that should say something, but to be fair at red rank you face alot more sweat and higher end perks...
Adeloo Oct 3, 2020 @ 2:13am 
Definitly not.
Just yesterday i had the proof : (rank 2 survivor)

- Game 1 : i'm the only red the others are either yellow or green, they played really well, made saves and get chased for a really long time (killer was red rank aswell)

- Game 2 : we are all red ranks, one is hooked, i'm finishing working on a gen while deep wound with a claudette. So i stop working on it as soon as i'm about to fall, the claudette stops working and try to mend me = i get down from timer while the gen was 99% (i know i messed up too). While i was down i can see poor Meg is still on hook while the Claudette get "chased" aka crouching in a corner while the last one is selfcaring vs 4 stacks thana and 4 stacks Dying light, she literally wasn't even done healing when the Meg died on hook...

- Game 3 : Lery's against a Nurse, all red ranks again, a Nancy and I powered the only 2 gens done the whole match, eventually she gets killed, and i get caught while fixing a third one. I died on my first hook, while i could see the other two teammates either hiding in lockers or urban evading/selfcaring.

So no rank doesn't mean anything aside that you just played a lot during the month.
Sp00ky Oct 3, 2020 @ 2:36am 
No they don't. You meet boosted survivors and killers even at rank 1.
D: (Banned) Oct 3, 2020 @ 4:34am 
No they don't, never have and even with the new MMR never will. DbD is too unbalanced and has too much RNG for truly competitive and skillful play styles. Since some killers pip a lot easier than others while survivors are nothing but player skins with zero difference in difficulty the ranking itself isn't exactly an even playing field and thus says close to nothing about how good you are overall at the game. Also, there's SWF heavily contorting rankings for both survivors (since it's easy as ♥♥♥♥ to get rank 1 when your friends carry you - DbD can't get any easier than this - so lots of people are consistently at ranks 1-4 who shouldn't - and otherwise wouldn't - even be in purple ranks) and killers (SWF bullying squads will probably brutalize you with no fault of your own because the game isn't balanced towards them but solo players without any way of direct communication which is why SWF is so game breaking). It's a casual game with a ranking system. The new MMR will change nothing about this so long as SWF don't get their own queue/rankings because rank 1 veterans will still carry their lesser skilled friends to victory (and double pips) regardless of matchmaking.

So yeah, whoever thinks ranks matter in this game (I know even well-known players like Tru3Ta1ent or TydeTime do) - sorry to disappoint you, it's all smoke and mirrors, random numbers and colors, it means nothing. Having a low number on a red background means nothing. I know, I'm consistently somewhere within red ranks or high purple, then red again as solo survivor... and I'm absolutely not skilled. Ranking up is just easy af.
Prestige matters.
Mewsha Oct 3, 2020 @ 4:56am 
No.

Each side can easily get to rank 1.

As survivor you have to try to depip currently, so if you simply play the game then you'll get to rank 1. The only other way you can depip is with the killer that's camping you. You don't have to switch up your playstyle at all, which results in an interesting solo queue experience. You'll see people not on generators, going down immediately in a chase against a killer that doesn't break pallets, and just generally hiding or Self-Caring with 4-5 generators left.

Now as killer it can be a little different. Most killers have to work a lot harder to get to rank 1, but there's a few that don't. Spirit, Freddy, and Pyramid Head are examples of killers that you can play mindlessly and do well with because they either have too much in their kit that requires the survivors to play perfectly, or they have a cheesy aspect that allows them to easily down survivors.

The other reason it's different is SWF. Competent players tend to group together to avoid immersive players at red and purple ranks. The result is killers are given almost nothing to work with, so to counterbalance this situation they almost have to be playing one of the above killers mentioned. This does not mean you get SWF that often, but you also can't always tell who is and isn't queued together. What's worse is they made it so you can't switch your killer once you queue up as well, so most people err on the side of caution and play broken killers so they don't depip for being in an unfair situation.

People will tell you SWF is the reason there are so many "boosted" survivors at red ranks, but they're right for the wrong reason. It's not that people in SWF are just overwhelmingly bad players. Most of them are perfectly competent, which is actually the problem.

SWF eats up so many good players from solo queue, which means you're going to come across a lot more bad survivors on your team than if those people in the SWF played solo. I've seen it myself. People add me after a game because we pulled off a play, and then they invite me to a group with like 1-2 other people. I'm down for duos most of the time since I don't run DS, but when all 4 of us play well it's just not that interesting, especially when we go up against something like a Wraith on a Red Forest map.
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garipew Oct 3, 2020 @ 5:10am 
yes, in red ranks while playing killer you find matches faster, the same applies to rank 20 surv
Tokyo Weeaboo (Banned) Oct 3, 2020 @ 5:13am 
They don't matter, it's just a banana sticker at this point... being rank 1 or rank 10 means absolutely nothing... too many variables, rank resets... etc.

The ranks are generally a misrepresentation of skill. I've seen a lot of Rank 1 Killers completely dominate a group of red rank survivors, and I've also seen Rank 1 killers get stomped by the same ranked survivors...

The map choice, the killer on said map, whether or not there's good wall / pallet placement... etc... waaaay too many variables to dictate what rank actually means.

Not to mention it's much easier to hit red ranks as killer than it is as survivor unless you're being boosted.

But if you're going on your own merit as a solo survivor, it's almost impossible to hit rank 1 because of the lack of knowledge of how your team mates are going to react... DC's, suicides, dumb plays... etc... in SWF, you know what to expect which again, is a false indication of ones own actual skill when the rank is boosted because you're in a 4 man squad with coms.

Ranks = B.S. and should be removed completely... they don't even make sense at this point considering all you really do in this game is farm BP for nodes on the blood web.

Now that MMR has been introduced it further removes the need to put yourself in danger / sit next to a killer doing absolutely nothing so you can "ranked up"... it's a dumb concept that goes against the core game mechanics of hide and seek... ranks only force you to make risky decisions... it's not an indication of skill, it's an indication of how much of a troll you are to the killers and others on your team.
samm6s Oct 3, 2020 @ 5:35am 
idk what to say about ranks because i dont play looking to them, but 99% of the games rank is something that works i can be wrong but games like cs-go, rocket league etc, the ranks actually work in these games, but in dbd its something that doesn´t matter, i have a friend that is rank one and does not know how to look behind and i dont blame her its not her fault, the game needs a new system, and im learning english i love this language sorry if i missed something=3
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