why do people heal against legion

[Tyson]

It should be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tip in the loading menu

[bhvr best devs ever]

Contrary to popular belief, not healing against a legion is NOT a reliable counter against a Legion, especially a decent one. A better strategy would be to avoid clumping up as much as possible by spreading out so that when he does activate Frenzy, he can't do much with it.

[TripleSteal-]

Sometimes you should heal against legion, nothing wrong with it.

[dmeister]

Originally posted by Bl4derino:

Why do ppl self care? Same time waste

Self care isn’t necessarily a waste of time (though it can be). Healing is basically investing time now to give yourself extra time later to survive in chases. So the question is does the amount of time it takes you to self care give you back more time than you spent in a chase?

With a medkit, it takes 16 seconds to heal yourself. If it takes the killer more than 16 seconds to reinjure you in a chase then you’ve basically gained time by healing. Likewise with Selfcare it takes 32 seconds to heal, so if you normally last longer than that in a chase before being hit then it’s a net gain.

Obviously there are going to be other considerations, but that’s the idea. Whether or not Self Care is useful is going to mostly come down to how much extra time it takes the killer to bring you back to being injured, so if you are a stronger looper than the killer player you’re facing it could pay off. On the other hand if you’re facing a killer who can injure you really quickly like Legion or a killer player who is better at loops than you then it might be a waste of time and you should stick to trying to get the gens done. (32 seconds is a really long time to not be doing a gen if you’re not getting enough of a payoff for it.)

[Dark Consort]

Originally posted by Just_Sayori:

People heal so they force legion to use his power and they can't just get m1 downed, it makes it easier to loop and waste the legions time. Bonus points if you guys split up to avoid him getting multiple hits with his feral.

Not to mention you kinda need to be healthy just to be safe when saving someone off the hook.

Although Self-care is a detriment to the team, it wastes way to much time.

Self-care is necessary on solo because of many survs just refuse to heal for whatever reason.

[Probably afk tbh]

Originally posted by dmeister:

Originally posted by Bl4derino:

Why do ppl self care? Same time waste

Self care isn’t necessarily a waste of time (though it can be). Healing is basically investing time now to give yourself extra time later to survive in chases. So the question is does the amount of time it takes you to self care give you back more time than you spent in a chase?

With a medkit, it takes 16 seconds to heal yourself. If it takes the killer more than 16 seconds to reinjure you in a chase then you’ve basically gained time by healing. Likewise with Selfcare it takes 32 seconds to heal, so if you normally last longer than that in a chase before being hit then it’s a net gain.

Obviously there are going to be other considerations, but that’s the idea. Whether or not Self Care is useful is going to mostly come down to how much extra time it takes the killer to bring you back to being injured, so if you are a stronger looper than the killer player you’re facing it could pay off. On the other hand if you’re facing a killer who can injure you really quickly like Legion or a killer player who is better at loops than you then it might be a waste of time and you should stick to trying to get the gens done. (32 seconds is a really long time to not be doing a gen if you’re not getting enough of a payoff for it.)

It's not even a 1 to 1 exchange. Even if that heal only wastes 15 seconds of the Killers time if you have 2-3 other survivors that's time you just bought for them to do objectives

[Wolfie]

why would you not heal? sure, you can get a gen and do some stuff but not healing is a terrible idea, so many times i've seen survs not heal and just get m1, you heal you force legion to feral and not just slap you down in one, there's times to heal and times to not

[D:]

Originally posted by King Of Obsession:

Just like with Plague, there are reasons you would want to heal just depends upon the state of the game, the perks they are running, and how effective it actually really is to heal. If you're just gonna get smacked again and do nothing but waste time that time would be better off on a gen. But As I said depends upon the situation, some times its wise and some times its not.

^ This. Lots of Legion players run Sloppy, Thanatophobia or Bloodhound (or a combination of those). They could run BBQ, Legion's own Discordance or any number of aura-reading perks to find you. It 100% depends on the state of the game, just like with the Plague where some builds (like mine) even rely on the survivors being "smart" and staying broken to work. As Plague I never play around Corrupted Purge - on the contrary, I play around the hope that the survivors will take it more seriously than I do. ^^

[Pancake]

Because why the heck would I want to walk around injured and be a one hit with grunts of pain that tell the legion where I'm at

[official thug shaker]

As someone who plays Legion, (for me at least) it is harder to find them once they aren't bleeding. Even if he's in frenzy while I'm running (fully healed), he can't down me. But, if I'm already bleeding, and he uses frenzy to catch up, then it's easier to get downed.

[ITWASMYCAT]

Legions will (and should) eventually get downs. In order to do that, they exit frenzy mode and get that second hit. If you don't heal and get hit the second time, you're a slug.
So, if you don't heal up, you'll get hooked like any other killer.

But unlike other killers, maybe the best state to be in is 99% heal instead of a full heal.

[baerra]

Originally posted by Pancake:

Because why the heck would I want to walk around injured and be a one hit with grunts of pain that tell the legion where I'm at

Because the time you and your teammates waste healing, especially if he has anti-healing perks, is a ton of time you could spend doing generators. He's also the easiest killer in the game to take your entire team from healthy state to injured state. It shouldn't surprise you to know that outside of his power he's a basic, easy to loop M1 killer.

So the answer is "I can't loop" But even if you can't loop well, if your entire team stays injured and does generators, and splits up, it won't matter if you go down in 30 seconds, you'll be out in no time.

[Totally Not Myers]

I don't play Legion often, but when I do I run Blood Echo to force them to waste time healing or say goodbye to all their Exhaustion perks.

[Axx]

Because a lot of people can't loop. So they would get downed even faster with 1 health state.

[Aceprojectx]

cause you make more noise and leave a blood trail mayhaps?

same reason to heal against one shot kills, so you can actually hide from them without them knowing where you are right away?

of course it also depends on the situation and state of the game. Some killers it is much better to spread out rather than stick close to other survivors.

Much like people who unhook right away annoy me, especially if they are camping them, wasting valuable progress.

I make it a point to unhook right before they about to enter the next phase, using the time during for repairs or other objectives.

[Give me Rize]

If survivors are healing against a legion..legions is doing his job well LMAO..if he injures survivors and they do not heal..and killer does not think they have Deadhard..well the game will not be in survivors favors. unless the survivors have lots of resources to use against legion which is not always the case.. i still get shocked when i see survivors drop pallets against a frenzied legion before he even gets to the pallet ;-;..but unlike the plague healing does not exactly power up legion in fact it forces him to use his power which can waste time (just have to know when to heal based on how the game is going)

Example: if you know legion is chasing a survivor for a long time (empanthy, alert, or you see it in the distance)and you are still on first or 2nd hook...no point in healing use that time to get gen done then heal after as long as you got your portion done you can heal if you want..simple as that..

but healing is perfectly fine against a legion if you ask me lol.