Adept achievements

[PaceyLionheart]

Do you have to be level 15 atleast? I got the achievement two matches ago with the executioner on level 17 and now I had a merciless victory with the clown and his three perks at level 11. It did not unlock unfortunately

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

I mean... it would make sense. You just need to use their 3 perks and reach... merciless...?

[Zanari]

no, all you need is the 3 perks equipped, if you didnt get it you either didnt get merciless or it bugged

[PaceyLionheart]

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Sadistic:

I mean... it would make sense. You just need to use their 3 perks and reach... merciless...?

Yes maybe the devs thought it is very unlikely to get this under level 15 and because of this it just unlocks when you actually try this challenge

[PaceyLionheart]

Originally posted by Rusty:

no, all you need is the 3 perks equipped, if you didnt get it you either didnt get merciless or it bugged

Okay well he is level 15 now so I'll try again. thanks

[TripleSteal-]

As a killer you need to do double pip while using 3 personal perks and any add-ons or offerings you want. The lower your rank is, the easier it is (double pip requirements on r13 allow 2 golden medals, while on r4 you can't get away with a single one).

Your achievement not unlocking sounds like a bug to me. It definetely can be done on any rank.

[Fierce1]

I have adept achievements of many killers, and my general rule was never level beyond level 10 until AFTER earning the adept achievement for either the killer or survivor I wanted it for.

Equip their 3 unique perks (in the order they are listed in their character history). DO NOT USE ADDONS OR OFFERINGS. Those negate getting the achievement. You need to bash the gens and destroy pallets, chase many times but hit or down fast, hook each survivor to death (3 times for 3 survivors, at least 2 for the last, but don't hang near the hooked survivor, you lose points if you stay too close for too long). Make sure you use their secondary abilities.

[Overlord Hades]

It has nothing to do with your level, just get the 3 perks and get merciless killer.

[PaceyLionheart]

Originally posted by Fierce1:

I have adept achievements of many killers, and my general rule was never level beyond level 10 until AFTER earning the adept achievement for either the killer or survivor I wanted it for.

Equip their 3 unique perks (in the order they are listed in their character history). DO NOT USE ADDONS OR OFFERINGS. Those negate getting the achievement. You need to bash the gens and destroy pallets, chase many times but hit or down fast, hook each survivor to death (3 times for 3 survivors, at least 2 for the last, but don't hang near the hooked survivor, you lose points if you stay too close for too long). Make sure you use their secondary abilities.

Okay I will try. Maybe I did not get the 2 pip the other match

[TripleSteal-]

Originally posted by Fierce1:

I have adept achievements of many killers, and my general rule was never level beyond level 10 until AFTER earning the adept achievement for either the killer or survivor I wanted it for.

Equip their 3 unique perks (in the order they are listed in their character history). DO NOT USE ADDONS OR OFFERINGS. Those negate getting the achievement. You need to bash the gens and destroy pallets, chase many times but hit or down fast, hook each survivor to death (3 times for 3 survivors, at least 2 for the last, but don't hang near the hooked survivor, you lose points if you stay too close for too long). Make sure you use their secondary abilities.

Most of this is simply false

-perk order is irrelevant
-addons and offerings are not restricted
-destroying pallets and breaking gens doesn't directly impact medals which are the final goal for you when doing adepts
-short chases negate iri chaser medal so making your last few chases (when you already understand you won the game anyways) artificially longer does help
-numbers for hooks are messed. You get iri sacrifice emblem for 4 dead survivors and at least 9 total hooks (1 survivor hooked 3 times and the other 3 guys twice each).
-using M2 is completely irrelevant for adept achievement, except for plague - when playing her you are forced to AVOID using her power, because it destroys Malicious emblem (infection doesn't count as an injury but follow-up fountain heals DO count as heals with negative malicious emblem value)

[Fierce1]

Originally posted by TripleSteal-:

Most of this is simply false

-perk order is irrelevant
-addons and offerings are not restricted
-destroying pallets and breaking gens doesn't directly impact medals which are the final goal for you when doing adepts
-short chases negate iri chaser medal so making your last few chases (when you already understand you won the game anyways) artificially longer does help
-numbers for hooks are messed. You get iri sacrifice emblem for 4 dead survivors and at least 9 total hooks (1 survivor hooked 3 times and the other 3 guys twice each).
-using M2 is completely irrelevant for adept achievement, except for plague - when playing her you are forced to AVOID using her power, because it destroys Malicious emblem (infection doesn't count as an injury but follow-up fountain heals DO count as heals with negative malicious emblem value)

1- It helps with organization and tracking, but yes it doesn't necessarily affect the achievement.
2- In my experience, they are. I have never been able to get an adept while using offerings or addons. Perhaps they changed the rules, but unless you actually FIND that change, best to just not use them.
3- destruction is necessary, you need points from gen damage and pallets, sometimes they can make all the difference. prioritize survivor targets, certainly, but destroying a pallet or 2 or bashing a gen nearby before resuming patrol? That DOES help.
4- Who said short chases? I said fast chases. Meaning you HAVE to land hits quickly, but ending the chase. That should be done with some slack. There's a middleground between the quick and the longwinded chases you need to get just right.
5- I've had instances where I hook and kill 3 of the 4, and the 4th escapes, but I still got the achievement. But yes, 9 hooks is correct. Ergo. You kill 3 of the 4 with 3 hooks a piece, you can hook the 4th once or twice as insurance, but if they escape, you'll still have enough points in that category.
6- You really think someone is "adept" even if they get the achievement if they only use M1 attacks? You get points for simply USING secondary abilities, so you'd have to be foolish NOT to utilize your killer's arsenal.
Regarding Plague, I'll have you know I got the adept achievement for her by getting everyone sick several times, i hooked them a bunch, but then... in the late game... That's when i unleashed hell upon them. I had almost all the fountains loaded with red puke and the survivors were still sick or unable to find a clean fountain. So it was incredibly easy for me to take down 3 of them using the red vomit and then the 4th as they tried to open the gate.

[PaceyLionheart]

Good news everyone :) I got it. You just have to 2 pip and not even sacrifice everybody. I got 3 kills and had 3 iridescent and 1 gold

[Fierce1]

Originally posted by PaceyLionheart:

Good news everyone :) I got it. You just have to 2 pip and not even sacrifice everybody. I got 3 kills and had 3 iridescent and 1 gold

Congratulations! I hope we were able to help at all.

[PaceyLionheart]

Originally posted by Fierce1:

Originally posted by PaceyLionheart:

Good news everyone :) I got it. You just have to 2 pip and not even sacrifice everybody. I got 3 kills and had 3 iridescent and 1 gold

Congratulations! I hope we were able to help at all.

Yes thank you :D

[Fierce1]

Originally posted by PaceyLionheart:

Originally posted by Fierce1:

Congratulations! I hope we were able to help at all.

Yes thank you :D

You're welcome. If you ever need help with other killers' adept, just ask.

[TripleSteal-]

Originally posted by Fierce1:

Originally posted by TripleSteal-:

Most of this is simply false

-perk order is irrelevant
-addons and offerings are not restricted
-destroying pallets and breaking gens doesn't directly impact medals which are the final goal for you when doing adepts
-short chases negate iri chaser medal so making your last few chases (when you already understand you won the game anyways) artificially longer does help
-numbers for hooks are messed. You get iri sacrifice emblem for 4 dead survivors and at least 9 total hooks (1 survivor hooked 3 times and the other 3 guys twice each).
-using M2 is completely irrelevant for adept achievement, except for plague - when playing her you are forced to AVOID using her power, because it destroys Malicious emblem (infection doesn't count as an injury but follow-up fountain heals DO count as heals with negative malicious emblem value)

1- It helps with organization and tracking, but yes it doesn't necessarily affect the achievement.
2- In my experience, they are. I have never been able to get an adept while using offerings or addons. Perhaps they changed the rules, but unless you actually FIND that change, best to just not use them.
3- destruction is necessary, you need points from gen damage and pallets, sometimes they can make all the difference. prioritize survivor targets, certainly, but destroying a pallet or 2 or bashing a gen nearby before resuming patrol? That DOES help.
4- Who said short chases? I said fast chases. Meaning you HAVE to land hits quickly, but ending the chase. That should be done with some slack. There's a middleground between the quick and the longwinded chases you need to get just right.
5- I've had instances where I hook and kill 3 of the 4, and the 4th escapes, but I still got the achievement. But yes, 9 hooks is correct. Ergo. You kill 3 of the 4 with 3 hooks a piece, you can hook the 4th once or twice as insurance, but if they escape, you'll still have enough points in that category.
6- You really think someone is "adept" even if they get the achievement if they only use M1 attacks? You get points for simply USING secondary abilities, so you'd have to be foolish NOT to utilize your killer's arsenal.
Regarding Plague, I'll have you know I got the adept achievement for her by getting everyone sick several times, i hooked them a bunch, but then... in the late game... That's when i unleashed hell upon them. I had almost all the fountains loaded with red puke and the survivors were still sick or unable to find a clean fountain. So it was incredibly easy for me to take down 3 of them using the red vomit and then the 4th as they tried to open the gate.

I do not suggest a discussion providing my perception of the issue and asking for others' opinion on that. The info I listed is a set of facts on how the game, emblem points and achievements work. You are arguing with dbd, literally. I'm not gonna go point by point once again and re-write the same stuff, but I'd like to highlight a couple of ideas which are indeed a bit counter intuitive.

Breaking pallets and gens does not count towards ANY killer medal in the game (directly), it only provides raw points (that do not equal emblems since a long, long time ago) and an indirect buff to future chases efficiency/gen slowdown.

Plague, if played normally/correctly, gives you around 92-95 points in malicious emblem in a perfect 12 hooks game. Getting 1 gold medal works if you are r5 or below, so it's not such a massive issue unless you are red.

The amount of points you get for a game is irrelevant, only emblems matter for the adept. M2 and M1 hits&downs give the same amount of emblem points (except for the plague infection bug mentioned above).

For more info refer to dbd wiki instead of spreading wrong data.
Emblem system: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Emblems