Can killers see if people are hiding in lockers? (cheating?)

[Ruru Rabies]

Are there perks or items or abilities that a killer can have that will let them see the aura of a survivor when they are hiding? Or something similar. I've been playing a couple of games as a survivor where I would:

-not run and leave scratch marks
-not be injured and leave blood stains
-start hearing a faint heartbeat and hide in a nearby locker

The killer would then directly move to my position and open the locker as if they knew I was there. Sometime a killer will start checking every lockers, that is fine, but in these few cases they will instantly, without any hesitation check the right one.

I played a lot as a killer and to my knowledge the only thing to help a killer find someone inside a locker is the blood stains, the scratch marks, a loud locker noise (if the survivor rushes inside) and deduction.

It just feels like cheating at this point but I would ask first rather than report someone who actually played fair and had the right items/perk/ability. The killers in these "suspicious" games were the trapper (in one game) and the oni (in two games).

I know Bitter Murmur will show the aura of survivors and the killer would then see them if they hid in lockers, but the perk triggers when a generator is completed. This was not the case for me.

Thank you for any help.

[Neo]

Well the experimented killers can know when someone is in a locker, is pretty obvious, and sometimes checking the lockers is just for getting sure the area is clear, it happened to me sometimes that i dont see any lead of the survivor leaving so i check the most obvious and close closet and there he is. Btw he maybe can see you in the distance, make sure no one is looking and the aura reading perks can show your aura when youre entering the locker so be careful in that too

[Mochan]

This is just killer game sense.

Whispers may also tell them you are nearby. If you are using perks like Inner Strength that can be a dead giveaway that you are in the locker when your status suddenly heals up. Very rarely some perk might have told them exactly where you went through an aura and they saw you go into the locker. The game has tons of aura reading perks for killers so there are tons of things that could have given your position away.

I'm sure there are some cheaters out there with hax but most killers don't and they just use plain old fashioned game sense to catch you.

[SpikeVein]

Depends on the killer. While a killer will never see your aura when you are in the locker with any perk or add-on. They can see your aura enter the locker and disappear.

Huntress will just open lockers just to reload. Accidently found a claudette hiding in one when i had to reload.

Legion can just use feral frenzy to get Killer Instinct. Which will show like a blob of red on any uninjured survivor. Even through a locker. Ghost Face can get Killer Instinct for any survivor that reveals him. Which you can do in a locker. Plus Demogorgon who if they have an active portal can see the Killer Instinct of any survivor near the portal.

Sometimes a good guess is all that is need if a locker is next to a gen. Sometimes a survivor jumps in it. If you held shift to jump into the locker you would both cause a loud noise and a notification as if you fast vaulted a window or just dropped a pallet. If done near the killer they would know pretty well you went in a locker.

[Raven]

I've seen a killer go straight to my locker (2 walls between us and I didn't sprint, I actually crouched to peek across some windows) after hooking someone (I got inside before the hook incase he had BBQ). He then did the same to another survivor almost across the map without hooking anyone.
Honestly? In case of doubt just report. If they are guilty they will get banned. If they are not guilty nothing will happen. Game devs are usually VERY thorough when checking and verifying reports by checking the software that runs alongside the game you play (TOS btw) so unless they have cheating software they won't get the banhammer.

[Belavierr]

all it takes is a good headset and you can hear a survivor in the locker (full health as well) but I just might have good hearing lol.

[NecroMaster]

Originally posted by Ruru Rabies:

Are there perks or items or abilities that a killer can have that will let them see the aura of a survivor when they are hiding? Or something similar. I've been playing a couple of games as a survivor where I would:

-not run and leave scratch marks
-not be injured and leave blood stains
-start hearing a faint heartbeat and hide in a nearby locker

The killer would then directly move to my position and open the locker as if they knew I was there. Sometime a killer will start checking every lockers, that is fine, but in these few cases they will instantly, without any hesitation check the right one.

I played a lot as a killer and to my knowledge the only thing to help a killer find someone inside a locker is the blood stains, the scratch marks, a loud locker noise (if the survivor rushes inside) and deduction.

It just feels like cheating at this point but I would ask first rather than report someone who actually played fair and had the right items/perk/ability. The killers in these "suspicious" games were the trapper (in one game) and the oni (in two games).

I know Bitter Murmur will show the aura of survivors and the killer would then see them if they hid in lockers, but the perk triggers when a generator is completed. This was not the case for me.

Thank you for any help.

Depends on how you are entering the locker.

Are you entering quietly or are you rush entering.
If the killer is within a certain distance he will get a notification if you rush enter.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by Nessa:

I've seen a killer go straight to my locker (2 walls between us and I didn't sprint, I actually crouched to peek across some windows) after hooking someone (I got inside before the hook incase he had BBQ). He then did the same to another survivor almost across the map without hooking anyone.
Honestly? In case of doubt just report. If they are guilty they will get banned. If they are not guilty nothing will happen. Game devs are usually VERY thorough when checking and verifying reports by checking the software that runs alongside the game you play (TOS btw) so unless they have cheating software they won't get the banhammer.

If it was Demo or Legion there's a chance it was legit. Legion in particular is very good at finding survivors because of his Frenzy.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Mochan:

Originally posted by Nessa:

I've seen a killer go straight to my locker (2 walls between us and I didn't sprint, I actually crouched to peek across some windows) after hooking someone (I got inside before the hook incase he had BBQ). He then did the same to another survivor almost across the map without hooking anyone.
Honestly? In case of doubt just report. If they are guilty they will get banned. If they are not guilty nothing will happen. Game devs are usually VERY thorough when checking and verifying reports by checking the software that runs alongside the game you play (TOS btw) so unless they have cheating software they won't get the banhammer.

If it was Demo or Legion there's a chance it was legit. Legion in particular is very good at finding survivors because of his Frenzy.

T'was a trapper :p
Also I didn't even have a gen near me so it surely wasn't that either now that I think of it

[Echorion]

A lot of things; like if I know a survivor is in the area and I can't see them anywhere, I generally check lockers; and I also play survivor too so I have a "sense" of when and where they might use them.
Sometimes it's just luck too, but usually it's educated guessing.

Wanna see a magic trick? Put a trap (Trapper) by a survivor facing a locker, then have them slowly enter the locker at the end of the trappers animation- now the survivor can get out and step on the trap and then free themselves.
Once they are free, go and open any other locker on the map and watch what happens.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by Echorion:

A lot of things; like if I know a survivor is in the area and I can't see them anywhere, I generally check lockers; and I also play survivor too so I have a "sense" of when and where they might use them.
Sometimes it's just luck too, but usually it's educated guessing.

Wanna see a magic trick? Put a trap (Trapper) by a survivor facing a locker, then have them slowly enter the locker at the end of the trappers animation- now the survivor can get out and step on the trap and then free themselves.
Once they are free, go and open any other locker on the map and watch what happens.

This is intruging but I don't quite get it. Or the instructions hahaha.

[spookophonic™]

hillbilly doesn't need to open to check, he can just chainsaw near and he will lean in. lol

[Tomha]

As a Killer, If I can't find a survivor in an area, but I'm positive they're in the area, I start checking lockers.

Also worth noting, you're not actually 100% silent in said lockers, Killers have to pay VERY close attention for this. Also, even if you quietly enter/exit a locker, we can hear it if nearby.

It's a combination of intuition and paying close attention. Don't feel too bad being found, sometimes we find someone, sometimes we don't.

It's generally not a good idea to hide in lockers against Huntress as she reloads in them and can find you just by trying to reload. Though if you're savvy, you'll usually know which locker will be ideal for hiding in. Like not the ones around the corner.

Doctor's power is countered by lockers (to a degree) so a savvy Doctor knows to check lockers from time to time.

[Ruru Rabies]

Originally posted by Wilson the Gentleman Scientist.:

Depends on how you are entering the locker.

Are you entering quietly or are you rush entering.
If the killer is within a certain distance he will get a notification if you rush enter.

I always entered them quietly when this happened.

And as a reply to most people who replied, it's not like the killer guessed someone was in a locker. It was situations in which they could not have heard me or saw me (I did not mention this in my original post but there were at least one wall between me and the killer). The killer did not seem to have guessed my location. It's as if he knew I was there and beelined directly there, hence why I find it suspicious.

[Harmonica]

In many cases the absence of a survivor is almost as obvious as their presence. Sometimes you just know if you open *this specific locker*, based on the distinct lack of evidence of a survivor, they're going to be in there. I'm sure it looks like complete BS to the survivor. It's just killer survivor sense firing like crazy.

If you hear the heartbeat you might already be too late to safely hide in a locker. It's always high risk versus a lot of killers (Nurse, Huntress, Legion most obviously), but doubly so when they're in close range because they're actively looking for a survivor already. You're also gambling on them not being in range to hear the locker audio cue which is very obvious, regardless of whether you leap into it.

Most likely they had Whispers, which makes tracking survivors in lockers trivial. Likewise, never hide in lockers if you're injured, it's very easy to find survivors this way.

Always check perks after the match. You learn to play around their perks more accurately by trying to work out what perks they are running during the match, and confirming/denying afterwards. Almost all killer perks can be deduced during the game. BBQ should be obvious after the first hook, for example. Whispers by the way they are hunting and checking an area repeatedly, etc

It's important to know that there's often a delay on hook notification from survivor side (they got hooked but it still looks like they are carried and you will hear no audio trigger for a second or two), so to avoid detection from BBQ you need to be in the locker well before (ideally right after they pick up the other survivor). Once they are hooked, count to four and wait for the bubble to disappear then get out. If you're not in the locker before they hook don't bother getting in, they will see your aura disappear and they can find you easily. Just start walking, count to four, then go in the opposite direction.

[Mringasa]

Frequently Survivors think they hide in a locker perfectly, but the animation takes longer than you think and a Killer catches a glimpse of you entering the locker. That and you can hear breathing or other noises from a Survivor in a locker. I've found them a number of times just from that. Hear some odd breathing or a whimper/gasp, and check the locker you just walked by. Pretty good chance they're in there.