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Definitely Not Dan 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 2:32
Discord and chatting with friends is cheating now.
Discord chat is now cheating. "*retracted since it's causing so much consternation despite my dear little friend saying "go for it" when I said I was going to quote him*" has the opinion that if you have the audacity to chat on discord or team speak or any voice chat with friends you're a cheater.
最后由 Definitely Not Dan 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 6:06
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Ryan McApplebees 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:18 
引用自 Keichou K
pathetic post. someone lock or delete this **** off the forums.
THIS
Ryan McApplebees 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:22 
引用自 junkevil
引用自 Frosted Flakes™
So that they can discuss the game, not cheat

Yeah, those channels called swf are for discussions. Seems legit.
Yes, it is. If they want people to use voice chat they would add voice chat.
Leah 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:23 
Name shaming is against the rules. This needs to be locked.
Zylon (已封禁) 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:24 
引用自 DifferentDan
Discord chat is now cheating. "You On Dum" has the opinion that if you have the audacity to chat on discord or team speak or any voice chat with friends you're a cheater.

You are cheating and admitting it.
Discord or team speak are 3rth party software to gain an unfair advantage.
Unless someone can point out the devs whitelistd VOIP this is cheating.

Do you feel bad now?

5. Other hacks
Using 3rd party software or other tools to gain any kind of unfair advantage wasn’t intended by the game, except if they have been whitelisted by us.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/6yhym8/game_ban_rules_and_how_to_report_players_new/
最后由 Zylon 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:24
Ryan McApplebees 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:25 
引用自 junkevil
引用自 Frosted Flakes™
Yes, it is. If they want people to use voice chat they would add voice chat.

I think the channel for discussions is literally called lonely killers.


引用自 Zylon
引用自 DifferentDan
Discord chat is now cheating. "You On Dum" has the opinion that if you have the audacity to chat on discord or team speak or any voice chat with friends you're a cheater.

You are cheating and admitting it.
Discord or team speak are 3rth party software to gain an unfair advantage.
Unless someone can point out the devs whitelistd VOIP this is cheating.

Do you feel bad now?

5. Other hacks
Using 3rd party software or other tools to gain any kind of unfair advantage wasn’t intended by the game, except if they have been whitelisted by us.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/6yhym8/game_ban_rules_and_how_to_report_players_new/
I dunno what this clip is but watch it
EDIT: Never mind, I removed the link
最后由 Ryan McApplebees 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:25
Cleversided 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:26 
引用自 Zylon
引用自 DifferentDan
Discord chat is now cheating. "You On Dum" has the opinion that if you have the audacity to chat on discord or team speak or any voice chat with friends you're a cheater.

You are cheating and admitting it.
Discord or team cheat are 3rth party software to gain an unfair advantage.
Unless someone can point out the devs whitelistd VOIP this is cheating.

Do you feel bad now?

5. Other hacks
Using 3rd party software or other tools to gain any kind of unfair advantage wasn’t intended by the game, except if they have been whitelisted by us.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/6yhym8/game_ban_rules_and_how_to_report_players_new/

How is discord under number 5?
Ryan McApplebees 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:27 
引用自 T.tv/Cleversided
引用自 Zylon

You are cheating and admitting it.
Discord or team cheat are 3rth party software to gain an unfair advantage.
Unless someone can point out the devs whitelistd VOIP this is cheating.

Do you feel bad now?

5. Other hacks
Using 3rd party software or other tools to gain any kind of unfair advantage wasn’t intended by the game, except if they have been whitelisted by us.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/6yhym8/game_ban_rules_and_how_to_report_players_new/

How is discord under number 5?
3rd party software used for an unfair advantage

Literially the defitnion
Cleversided 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:29 
引用自 Frosted Flakes™
引用自 T.tv/Cleversided

How is discord under number 5?
3rd party software used for an unfair advantage

Literially the defitnion

I use it all the time. Lmao. They should address the issue in their next stream if people are so worried about it.
Boss 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:30 
引用自 T.tv/Cleversided
引用自 Frosted Flakes™
3rd party software used for an unfair advantage

Literially the defitnion

I use it all the time. Lmao. They should address the issue in their next stream if people are so worried about it.
You'd think so, right?
NOPE! This has been something worried about by many for many months now.
firekillerxx (已封禁) 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:30 
引用自 T.tv/Cleversided
I'm surprised this has not yet been taken down for naming the killer in thread. Lmao this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dude. I will probably camp him if I see him and his friends.

I told him in the after game chat it's against the rules to name , still did it anyway lol
Supplenipples McGee (已封禁) 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:31 
People think I'm crazy for thinking this, but if they would disable BNP and Purple Flashlight in SWF it would help A LOT. And maybe make gen time slightly longer if it's 3-4 man SWF
Zylon (已封禁) 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:33 
引用自 T.tv/Cleversided
引用自 Zylon

You are cheating and admitting it.
Discord or team cheat are 3rth party software to gain an unfair advantage.
Unless someone can point out the devs whitelistd VOIP this is cheating.

Do you feel bad now?

5. Other hacks
Using 3rd party software or other tools to gain any kind of unfair advantage wasn’t intended by the game, except if they have been whitelisted by us.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/6yhym8/game_ban_rules_and_how_to_report_players_new/

How is discord under number 5?

Is this a trick question or are you really not capable of understanding this?

Still waiting for those that can show the devs whitelisted all VOIP.
If not, then this topic has been answered and the OP has been branded a cheater.
最后由 Zylon 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:34
Tzeentchling9 (已封禁) 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:44 
引用自 DifferentDan
I enjoy your strawman Tzeen. Thank you for TL;DRing my comment.
Definition of straw man

1 :a weak or imaginary opposition (such as an argument or adversary) set up only to be easily confuted

Don't see you easily confuting my statement. You literally have done nothing in this thread, but claim it isn't cheating because it isn't and the devs haven't stopped or banned anyone for it, but if you want me to respond to that whole post, I will.

The end result however lies in it not being cheating. There's an advantage to having friends, and since the game doesn't implement it then there's no real point in arguing about people having the audacity to "cheat" by using a VC software.

So how is it not cheating if it is an advantage that is not implemented, and therefor, not intended?

If you don't like it - skip the lobby. When I play killer and I see people enter my lobby with 2-3-4 I accept that it's a thing, and I play it as I would any game. With the objective to kill and gain points. I don't care if the use voice chat. By all means I invite it as you can tell from my position in this argument.

Good for you. I for one don't like to play when the other team has an unintended advantage. Why should I play a game of Mastermind when there is another person telling the guesser what color my pieces are? I guess that's fine with you though, since the rules don't say anything about the other player getting an advantage from outside the game.

The unfair advantage of survivors being pure mutes without voice chat and can only point or say "follow" is equally unfair to survivors is also being ignored in this argument. So until they find a middle ground idc what any of you say. VC is not cheating.

So using an outside advantage isn't cheating because you don't like the way the game is intended to be played?

Until they start banning people for it and condemning it your arguments are moot.

Back to, "No one has stopped me yet!" Pretty sure quite a few criminals think along these lines.

The claim that it IS cheating is hilarious.

Why? We've established its an unintended advantage.

There are ways around that. If you don't like it. Dodge the lobby. Only play in random lobbies that with your arguments - don't have flashlights or body blocking or pallet stunning. Because that totally never happens in those games right?

So if people are cheating, just don't play them? How is that acceptable? Not to mention the cheaters in question get super pissy on the forums here that no one wants to play with them.

By all means if they added a voice chat system where it's proximety based - I'd happily use it, since I like chatting and talking to the people I'm playing with. There's NO chatting what so ever, but that's completely fair right?

Sure, if a chat system is implemented AND BALANCED AROUND, then yes. A chat system would be fine. As it is, there isn't one implement, there won't be one since the devs have stated that that isn't how the game is intended to be played, and DbD is no way balanced around survivors having VC.

Otherwise it'd be cheating apparently. F13 found a simple way past that - radios. The killer can still hear what you're saying in that, but in DBD there's NO chatting what so ever between survivors. There IS an argument here for that.

No, there is no argument, and bringing up F13 actually hurts your case instead of helping it. F13 is a game that does implement VC, thereby showing there is a difference between games that intended VC and those that don't, and as such is balanced around it. Jason can kill anyone on a dime, can be everywhere at once, and actions the counselors take toward completing there objectives(starting the cars or killing Jason) require some cooperation. None of that exist in DbD. There is no cooperation required and the killer doesn't have any powers to combat multiple people coordinating a perfect attack at multiple locations.

Bottom line is VCs are not intended for DbD. They are not implemented and not balanced around in the slightest.
Ryan McApplebees 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:45 
引用自 Tzeentchling9
引用自 DifferentDan
I enjoy your strawman Tzeen. Thank you for TL;DRing my comment.
Definition of straw man

1 :a weak or imaginary opposition (such as an argument or adversary) set up only to be easily confuted

Don't see you easily confuting my statement. You literally have done nothing in this thread, but claim it isn't cheating because it isn't and the devs haven't stopped or banned anyone for it, but if you want me to respond to that whole post, I will.

The end result however lies in it not being cheating. There's an advantage to having friends, and since the game doesn't implement it then there's no real point in arguing about people having the audacity to "cheat" by using a VC software.

So how is it not cheating if it is an advantage that is not implemented, and therefor, not intended?

If you don't like it - skip the lobby. When I play killer and I see people enter my lobby with 2-3-4 I accept that it's a thing, and I play it as I would any game. With the objective to kill and gain points. I don't care if the use voice chat. By all means I invite it as you can tell from my position in this argument.

Good for you. I for one don't like to play when the other team has an unintended advantage. Why should I play a game of Mastermind when there is another person telling the guesser what color my pieces are? I guess that's fine with you though, since the rules don't say anything about the other player getting an advantage from outside the game.

The unfair advantage of survivors being pure mutes without voice chat and can only point or say "follow" is equally unfair to survivors is also being ignored in this argument. So until they find a middle ground idc what any of you say. VC is not cheating.

So using an outside advantage isn't cheating because you don't like the way the game is intended to be played?

Until they start banning people for it and condemning it your arguments are moot.

Back to, "No one has stopped me yet!" Pretty sure quite a few criminals think along these lines.

The claim that it IS cheating is hilarious.

Why? We've established its an unintended advantage.

There are ways around that. If you don't like it. Dodge the lobby. Only play in random lobbies that with your arguments - don't have flashlights or body blocking or pallet stunning. Because that totally never happens in those games right?

So if people are cheating, just don't play them? How is that acceptable? Not to mention the cheaters in question get super pissy on the forums here that no one wants to play with them.

By all means if they added a voice chat system where it's proximety based - I'd happily use it, since I like chatting and talking to the people I'm playing with. There's NO chatting what so ever, but that's completely fair right?

Sure, if a chat system is implemented AND BALANCED AROUND, then yes. A chat system would be fine. As it is, there isn't one implement, there won't be one since the devs have stated that that isn't how the game is intended to be played, and DbD is no way balanced around survivors having VC.

Otherwise it'd be cheating apparently. F13 found a simple way past that - radios. The killer can still hear what you're saying in that, but in DBD there's NO chatting what so ever between survivors. There IS an argument here for that.

No, there is no argument, and bringing up F13 actually hurts your case instead of helping it. F13 is a game that does implement VC, thereby showing there is a difference between games that intended VC and those that don't, and as such is balanced around it. Jason can kill anyone on a dime, can be everywhere at once, and actions the counselors take toward completing there objectives(starting the cars or killing Jason) require some cooperation. None of that exist in DbD. There is no cooperation required and the killer doesn't have any powers to combat multiple people coordinating a perfect attack at multiple locations.

Bottom line is VCs are not intended for DbD. They are not implemented and not balanced around in the slightest.
You seriously typed all that to win an arguement online? No one is even gonna read that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBxbzXKZKI4
Ryan McApplebees 2017 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:47 
引用自 Frosted Flakes™
引用自 Tzeentchling9
Definition of straw man

1 :a weak or imaginary opposition (such as an argument or adversary) set up only to be easily confuted

Don't see you easily confuting my statement. You literally have done nothing in this thread, but claim it isn't cheating because it isn't and the devs haven't stopped or banned anyone for it, but if you want me to respond to that whole post, I will.



So how is it not cheating if it is an advantage that is not implemented, and therefor, not intended?



Good for you. I for one don't like to play when the other team has an unintended advantage. Why should I play a game of Mastermind when there is another person telling the guesser what color my pieces are? I guess that's fine with you though, since the rules don't say anything about the other player getting an advantage from outside the game.



So using an outside advantage isn't cheating because you don't like the way the game is intended to be played?



Back to, "No one has stopped me yet!" Pretty sure quite a few criminals think along these lines.



Why? We've established its an unintended advantage.



So if people are cheating, just don't play them? How is that acceptable? Not to mention the cheaters in question get super pissy on the forums here that no one wants to play with them.



Sure, if a chat system is implemented AND BALANCED AROUND, then yes. A chat system would be fine. As it is, there isn't one implement, there won't be one since the devs have stated that that isn't how the game is intended to be played, and DbD is no way balanced around survivors having VC.



No, there is no argument, and bringing up F13 actually hurts your case instead of helping it. F13 is a game that does implement VC, thereby showing there is a difference between games that intended VC and those that don't, and as such is balanced around it. Jason can kill anyone on a dime, can be everywhere at once, and actions the counselors take toward completing there objectives(starting the cars or killing Jason) require some cooperation. None of that exist in DbD. There is no cooperation required and the killer doesn't have any powers to combat multiple people coordinating a perfect attack at multiple locations.

Bottom line is VCs are not intended for DbD. They are not implemented and not balanced around in the slightest.
You seriously typed all that to win an arguement online? No one is even gonna read that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBxbzXKZKI4
Oh ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that guy in the video died in a car accident....
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