Dead by Daylight
Legendary skins and their problem (Death of the DBD artstyle?)
Might be an unpopular opinion but carry on till the end of this thread please.

Title.
Yeah you've read it right, death of Dead By Daylight artstyle, what artstyle you ask?

This game used (and still is) pretty dark and over the top sometimes, it has silly moments but it's mostly an horror/action game, I do believe that Legendary skins will be amazing and that it's a neat idea, but a part of me still thinks that they are going to ruin the game a lot, that these skins will be simply a way for developers to implement unrelated stuff that doesn't fit in Dead By Daylight and call it "okay" cuz it's technically a skin and doesn't ruin the game for anyone (except it does for reasons I'm about to say):

Legendary skins might look cool on paper, but at the end of the day they are a new way to put new characters in the game without them having to worry about new perks, new maps and new content in general (that will still probably come with each chapter but still)...

A single DLC costs 7 dollars, Legendary skins (assuming they will cost like a normal skin if not more) will be 10 dollars, you won't have a new killer and no six new perks, just your character with a skin that doesn't fit most likely into the game.

They already added the elephant skin for Clown (which by the way, it's an amazing skin) but a part of me can't look at him seriously, it's just a cool skin that looks really stupid and not scary at all, my brother (who mind you, doesn't play the game cuz he thinks it's unbalanced and hard) just saw him and didn't have any reaction, just a little laugh and nothing more, and he's one of those players that can't play the game at all and that gets jumpscared even for killers like Trapper with distressing tier 3.)

I literally want to ask just one single thing to the devs, since this is coming anyway in the game: please be serious, please don't add things that don't fit in DBD just because they are skins, please add legendary skins on characters that fit with said skins, such as for example Cheryl (giving her all the Silent hill themed legendary skins for survivors for example, and not a James skin for someone like Jake or Dwight for example, or L4D related content to Bill for example), please mantain a logic when it comes to content, don't add stuff in game just because you can, TF2 did that and that game is pretty much dead from an artstyle point of view...

At the end of the day it's not a problem to have Legendary skins, but there's a really solid line between new content and a new way to grab money by ruining your game with over the top things that don't make sense (just look at the new Legion skin about to come out with Robbie the rabbit from Silent Hill, it's a cool skin, but why? It's probably not a legendary skin but it still doesn't make sense on why it's getting added aside from the funny reference to the franchise itself).

Also speaking about Legion, the whole point of that character was that you could've changed your skin and transformed him in another person, when it was first added to the game everyone felt underwhelmed by the fact that you only had one character that wasn't him, and had to pay for the other 2, now with the addition of these skins the killer lost one of the cool features it had and it's now simply a killer that starts with 1 free legendary skin, so unless Legendary skins are restricted (and I hope so) to survivors only, Legion pretty much is even less appealing when it comes to his look.

TL;DR: Legendary skins are a cool idea, but completely ruin the artstyle concept of the game and it's an excuse for devs to not make new perks, killers and survivors but just adding them to the game at a bigger price than a normal DLC in form of skins for characters that don't have any correlation at all (most likely) except being a base model to that skin, please devs when you add them, keep a logic between them and don't just add ♥♥♥♥ because you can.
Автор сообщения: Commander Fluffles:
Personally I'm pretty into the idea of dead by daylights legendary skins.

I like the idea of having an alt character as just a skin instead of needing to level up an entirely new survivor/killer.

I do however, Dislike the removal of mix and matching for some skins, I love the silent hill DLC but I am extremely disappointed that Cheryl only has body alt cosmetics and a handful of linked/legendary skins.

I think that it's too early to call how this will effect dbd we will have to see in future expansions.
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Автор сообщения: alex_ionut1976
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(Silent Hill it's abit confusing)
SH2 isnt so confusing but SH and SH3 are the most confusing. I watched a lot of videos about the story but i didnt understand it until i played the games.
At the end of the day it's confusing because people don't explain correctly, but it's really easy to get
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the problem here is that at least they are not legendary confirming they are just for survivors, we are safe from devs making things like Jason a legendary skin for trapper and avoid of being lazy by not making another character
I mean, that would be ok. There will come a point where we stop seeing new characters and killers very often as balance gets harder and harder each time they add new ones. Skins allow people to play what they want without having to an entire new bundle to the game with 6 more perks.
True but as I said on the thread, there are various reasons on why it kills dbd artstyle and further content
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But it might as well be legendary as you can't mix/match these Killer cosmetics. That's the part I don't like as mix/matching cosmetics is the entire point of having them. To allow the player to make a custom look of their own..
the problem here is that at least they are not legendary confirming they are just for survivors, we are safe from devs making things like Jason a legendary skin for trapper and avoid of being lazy by not making another character

They ARE legendary though! Maybe not in name, but in effect by being 100% locked.

I can understand Legion's bunny outfits to be locked. They are a drastic change to that Killer, and are I think linked to a license agreement. If Trapper got a Jason skin, Id also agree to locking that.

PH though? His skin doesn't change him at all. It is still PH either way. But his Corrupted outfit is 100% locked. Can't mix/match it at all. And I find that HORRIBLE! I LOVE the corrupted body, but find it to look better with his default head. More broken in, more rusted, the default head just fits much better in my opinion. Maybe even the prestige head would look good with the corrupted body. But I can't do any of that. It's pure corrupted or default. No choice at all and there is no REASON for there to be no choice either!

Hell. I can easily say I don't like the corrupted head at all. Looks too "new" for PH or Silent Hill. And the fleshy bits. Ghastly looking, in a bad way. The corrupted weapon isn't bad though. Got a minor issue with the fleshy bits again, but the bulk of the weapon is outstanding! I would be forced to use cosmetics I don't like.

Why the hell should I pay for and use a cosmetic that I don't like? I wont pay for it at all thanks to that head. But if they wan't locked. I would gladly give some, more, coin for that corrupted body.


Locking skins like this will only hurt the devs in the long run. Parting out cosmetics makes FAR more money than locked ones. And like I said. I fully agree that some outfits need to be locked. But only if they have a reason to be locked. Cheryl for god's sake has 2 locked skins that as well have no reason to be locked. A different hair style and pallet swapped shirts.

WHY?
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the problem here is that at least they are not legendary confirming they are just for survivors, we are safe from devs making things like Jason a legendary skin for trapper and avoid of being lazy by not making another character

They ARE legendary though! Maybe not in name, but in effect by being 100% locked.

I can understand Legion's bunny outfits to be locked. They are a drastic change to that Killer, and are I think linked to a license agreement. If Trapper got a Jason skin, Id also agree to locking that.

PH though? His skin doesn't change him at all. It is still PH either way. But his Corrupted outfit is 100% locked. Can't mix/match it at all. And I find that HORRIBLE! I LOVE the corrupted body, but find it to look better with his default head. More broken in, more rusted, the default head just fits much better in my opinion. Maybe even the prestige head would look good with the corrupted body. But I can't do any of that. It's pure corrupted or default. No choice at all and there is no REASON for there to be no choice either!

Hell. I can easily say I don't like the corrupted head at all. Looks too "new" for PH or Silent Hill. And the fleshy bits. Ghastly looking, in a bad way. The corrupted weapon isn't bad though. Got a minor issue with the fleshy bits again, but the bulk of the weapon is outstanding! I would be forced to use cosmetics I don't like.

Why the hell should I pay for and use a cosmetic that I don't like? I wont pay for it at all thanks to that head. But if they wan't locked. I would gladly give some, more, coin for that corrupted body.


Locking skins like this will only hurt the devs in the long run. Parting out cosmetics makes FAR more money than locked ones. And like I said. I fully agree that some outfits need to be locked. But only if they have a reason to be locked. Cheryl for god's sake has 2 locked skins that as well have no reason to be locked. A different hair style and pallet swapped shirts.

WHY?
Legion locked is because of what I was saying, it ruins DBD artstyle so you are right saying it makes sense to be locked, IDK why PH was locked, perhaps a bug or maybe something we're both missing (maybe you can't have the cursed body on the normal head because it clips a bit or the veins get randomly cut at some point of the skin or something like that)

Anyway I hope they don't go hard with making new cosmetics only "LOCKED", I can see a few being locked (even old ones like Clown with the Mr. Puddles or Feng with the ballet skin), but overall I hope for different combos, that's what makes each character feel like they are different people and not the same survivors with different clothes
alex_ionut1976 (Заблокирован) 16 июн. 2020 г. в 13:02 
I dont mind that Lisa Garland and Alessia Gillespie skins are locked but i dont see why would you lock the other 2 Cheryl skins. I think they should make a bigger discount for the locked cosmetics. Why would i want to pay 10 dollars for a skin that i cant change when i can pay 10 dollars for a skin that i can change. And the legendary skins for 15 dollars its a bit too much. I heard that it just changes the animations but its the same voice.
I think the 10.00 price tag is a bit much considering the cost of the dlc
Keyrala (Заблокирован) 16 июн. 2020 г. в 14:42 
Can't you just dodge a lobby if they using a skin you don't like?
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Can't you just dodge a lobby if they using a skin you don't like?
You clearly didn't read over the title
Keyrala (Заблокирован) 16 июн. 2020 г. в 15:14 
I did, and i gave you an easy fix to your problem.

When i see multiple survivors dressing the same i asume they won't do anything but teabag and rage quit when they're caught so i just dodge those teams and problem solved.
Автор сообщения: Keyrala
I did, and i gave you an easy fix to your problem.

When i see multiple survivors dressing the same i asume they won't do anything but teabag and rage quit when they're caught so i just dodge those teams and problem solved.
Okay you didn't read and I'm pinning this just to show what the hell you just said to everyone lmao, the problem is not having the same skin, congratulations, you played yourself.
Keyrala (Заблокирован) 16 июн. 2020 г. в 15:25 
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Автор сообщения: Keyrala
I did, and i gave you an easy fix to your problem.

When i see multiple survivors dressing the same i asume they won't do anything but teabag and rage quit when they're caught so i just dodge those teams and problem solved.
Okay you didn't read and I'm pinning this just to show what the hell you just said to everyone lmao, the problem is not having the same skin, congratulations, you played yourself.
I told you my problem with peoples skin as example in how easy is to avoid skins you don't like.

If you think a skin makes no "lore" sense and that offends you then just move into next lobby..It was not too hard to understand my post, i find it kinda dumb that some people in the forum always claims that people doesn't reads the thread unless they have the same opinion than them. but to each their own... Don't want to take the easy fix to your "game is going to die" problem then you will have to get used to the skins that makes "no sense" i guess.
Автор сообщения: Keyrala
Автор сообщения: DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP
Okay you didn't read and I'm pinning this just to show what the hell you just said to everyone lmao, the problem is not having the same skin, congratulations, you played yourself.
I told you my problem with peoples skin as example in how easy is to avoid skins you don't like.

If you think a skin makes no "lore" sense and that offends you then just move into next lobby..It was not too hard to understand my post, i find it kinda dumb that some people in the forum always claims that people doesn't reads the thread unless they have the same opinion than them. but to each their own... Don't want to take the easy fix to your "game is going to die" problem then you will have to get used to the skins that makes "no sense" i guess.
I'm sorry but again, it's not the problem, I said multiple time in the thread that at the end of the day they are just skins, you didn't read a dang thing...
Anyway it looks like devs have listened to my complaints and other people complaints, no legendary skins for killers (yet)
Скіф (Заблокирован) 17 июн. 2020 г. в 0:14 
15 euros for a skin is a bit sick imo. This is gonna turn into league soon where you have 30 euro skins.

Автор сообщения: Schlingel
15 euros for a skin is a bit sick imo. This is gonna turn into league soon where you have 30 euro skins.
Yup, and the thing is that it will probably work cuz people are definitely gonna buy them
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