What Is The Worst Perk For Both Sides?

[76561198053951010]

Personally, I'd say Sole Survivor and Monstrous Shrine are the worst perks.

[Yatol]

Déjà Vu and Hangman's Trick

[76561198053951010]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Yatol:

Déjà Vu and Territorial Imperative

I disagree on Deja Vu personally.

I think that it can be very good on maps that are hard to find generators on, like The Game and Lery's.

I also think it's great because it lets you eliminate 3-gen strategies very easily.

[Florendil]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von i am so sorry:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Yatol:

Déjà Vu and Territorial Imperative

I disagree on Deja Vu personally.

I think that it can be very good on maps that are hard to find generators on, like The Game and Lery's.

I also think it's great because it lets you eliminate 3-gen strategies very easily.

You just need to know what to look for.
(Closed doors and flickering lights)

[Clem1710]

There is so many horrible perks... monstruous shrine is pretty awful for example. Dying light too.

[Wjoming]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Clem1710:

There is so many horrible perks... monstruous shrine is pretty awful for example. Dying light too.

Are you kidding me?
Dying Light is one of the best perks that slow down game
Combine this with Pop Goes and Thanat and it's easy win

[Spinostafrikanotosuchuonymimus]

No Mither is the worst survivor perk because while many others are useless, this one actively harms you. I can't think of any killer perk that actually harms you, though.

[croggle]

Pharmacy very situational and if you are doing a chest build might as well run something like plunderers instead or you know just bring meds into the trial.
Mindbreaker wow 3 second of exhaust maybe if it was like 15-30 seconds it might actually be viable as they wouldn't have their safety net exhaust perks for a decent bit after hopping off of gens but recovering for 3 seconds is childs play.

[Scooby Doo]

It is rather difficult to choose one for each side.

[dmeister]

Worst killer perk is probably Monstrous Shrine. It only affects the basement hooks, and even then it's terrible because two of the three things is does is make it harder for someone on a hook to escape on their own. Which of course is completely useless aside from a Hail Mary attempt when a hooked survivor is in endgame and desperate because nobody else can come save them. The other effect, which speeds up the hooks' death timer by up to 9%, is a very minor buff - it just means that what normally takes 120 seconds for a death to occur now takes 109 seconds. This is easily the worst killer perk in the game, it seriously needs a revamp.

Second worst might be Hangman's Trick. It alerts you to people sabotaging a hook (which is pretty useless, if you're carrying someone you'll probably see the saboteur anyway, and if you're not carrying someone then who cares if a hook is sabotaged?) And it lets you see auras of survivors within a VERY small distance of the hook - 6 meters at rank 3. 6 meters is incredibly tiny, basically it will just show you the rescue as it occurs. Again, who cares? You'll get a noise notification when it happens if you're not nearby, and if you are nearby you'll see it happening. And to top it off that aura is only in effect while you are carrying someone! Even if that perk was active all the time it would still be terrible.


My suggestions for improving these perks might be:

- Monstrous Shrine: Make it affect ALL hooks, not just the basement, and in addition to making pulling yourself off a hook harder have it make rescues take longer. So rescuing someone will require you to stand in place for a few seconds more than usual. And/or have the perk give you bonus endgame bloodpoints for every hook. (And maybe change the name then to Horrendous Hooks or something)

- Hangman's Trick: Have the perk always be on with maybe a short cooldown. So whether or not you are carrying a survivor, you can always see people in close proximity to hooks, give or take the cooldown period. It would turn all the hooks into small radar stations.

[Dusty The Hamster]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spinostafrikanotosuchuonymimus:

No Mither is the worst survivor perk because while many others are useless, this one actively harms you. I can't think of any killer perk that actually harms you, though.

NOED since it trains you to be bad at the game to maybe get benefit from it at the end.

But monsterous shrine is probably the worst killer perk to use, This is Not happening imo is one of the worst survivor perks to chose.

[dmeister]

NOED gets a lot of complaints but to be fair it can potentially get you one or two extra hooks at the end of the game which is a good increase to your final score. So the perks that are better than NOED would be the ones that can potentially earn you more than one or two hooks prior to endgame collapse. (For example, just picking a popular perk at random, if Nurse's Calling gets you three or four downs over the course of a game then it's obviously better than what NOED would get you.) Also in the particular case of Deathslinger NOED has some pretty good synergy, boosting his slow speed and allowing him to yank someone out of an exit area to down them before they escape. And unlike most Hex perks its totem isn't visible until the endgame collapse, so it's not as susceptible to being destroyed before it can do anything.

I don't personally use NOED mainly because I think the endgame is kind of boring, I'd rather use perks that help me prior to that and then once the endgame starts just wrap things up. But I wouldn't say that people who use NOED are "bad killers" or that it's an ineffective perk, it's basically ok even if its style is controversial.

[Rilgar55]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Yatol:

Déjà Vu and Hangman's Trick

We have a winner

[Clem1710]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Son Goku:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Clem1710:

There is so many horrible perks... monstruous shrine is pretty awful for example. Dying light too.

Are you kidding me?
Dying Light is one of the best perks that slow down game
Combine this with Pop Goes and Thanat and it's easy win

good one xD

[Florendil]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dusty The Hamster:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Spinostafrikanotosuchuonymimus:

No Mither is the worst survivor perk because while many others are useless, this one actively harms you. I can't think of any killer perk that actually harms you, though.

NOED since it trains you to be bad at the game to maybe get benefit from it at the end.

But monsterous shrine is probably the worst killer perk to use, This is Not happening imo is one of the worst survivor perks to chose.

Actually I would disagree with that.
Yes, NOED gives you a little boost if survivors forgot to cleanse all totems, but the more confident you grow as a killer, the less you will use NOED, as it basically eats up a whole Perk-slot in exchange to some help in endgame.
Also there's Killers who need perks like NOED to become viable. In combination with Blood Warden, it can make many killers become a threat.

To wrap it up, using NOED is like lending someone Money.
You give up some of your power for the duration of the game. You might get paid back in endgame, sometimes with more, than what the power given away would have given you, sometimes with less, but most of the time with pretty much the same.

[Redgrave]

Worst perks for either side...ok this is going to be a strange answer but I think all of the perks are the worse. Now here me out. I've been playing perkless Legion for a while now and I've come to the realization that whether you know it or not. If you have a perk you tend to want to get some use out of it or whats the point in bringing it. even if it costs you a smart play.

That being said, I've noticed at least with myself I tended to try and get some use out of a perk when I took one, which means I'm going out of my way to gain the benefit of something that I probably didn't need in most of the situations I'm in. Usually you'd think it comes naturally during the game, but seeing the difference between when I played with perks and when I played without perks, it's something that stands out when you notice it.

With that in mind it becomes easy to identify when someone is using the more meta perks for survivor, as they try their best to gain some use out of their perks in some form. Either that being them running to your face to get hit for BT or wait on the floor until they can Unbreakable or you to pick them up to DS.

Small things that in the end I think damage someone's overall skill because they want to use a perk they bought, and it creates this dependency, this need to either find or create the situations that best suit that perk. It's probably why most people running the meta perks act so boldly, it's because they have perks that benefit them being bold (or brainless but that's up for debate), if or when they get injured, downed, or hooked.