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stickmaster 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:16
Do survivors get less bloodpoints than killers?
I mean, i don't really play survivor for bloodpoints anyway, i play for chases and interactions with the killer.

But why do i get the feeling that every objective you do plus getting chased or even escaping at the end, isn't really that rewarding? I mean for example you get like 500 for a safe unhook and 600 for cleansing, 1000 for a hex totem.

I think the average amount of bloodpoints i get as a survivor in a single match without any offerings is ~10-18.000 depending on if it is a good match or not. You don't always get to do objectives, you can't repair gens or unhook when you are being chased unfortunately and under certain circumstances you will not even make it to the 10.000 mark.

As a killer it is so easy to reach 20.000 without even trying and then there is BBQ and Chili which doubles that amount. Even a bad round as a killer will get me 15.000 points for sure.

Could anyone explain why getting points seems to be so difficult as survivor? Am i just bad and need to do more in a match?

I usually main killer so if any survivor main could elaborate, that would be awesome.
最後修改者:stickmaster; 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:21
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SolidusPrime (已封鎖) 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:18 
Oh ya, way more.

Without trying specifically for BPs, I will get 15-20 on average as survivor. I'll usually get somewhere between 20-40 as killer.

It's offset a bit by the lobby wait time though.
LadyLightning 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:21 
matches for killers are often longer too
Chernobear 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:22 
引用自 SolidusPrime
It's offset a bit by the lobby wait time though.

This times 1000

With killer regardless of how long the match is, you have to be there for all of it. With survivor, you can leave before the match is over (either by escaping or dying) and instantly get another match
Potato (已封鎖) 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:26 
Yes, I usually go killer if I need bloodpoints, I can get 45-55k bp as Hillbilly with BBQ in 1 game.
Lemming 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:26 
BBQ and Chili requires the killer to hunt down and hook each of the survivors at least once for that reward you mention. It is done to discourage camping, I don't get why people keep complaining about it.
Sairek Ceareste (已封鎖) 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:29 
Killers get more blood points than survivors because killers use more blood points than survivors.

A killer without at least yellow add-ons in rank 10+ that isn't meta tends to not do very good.

Do you know how awful Trapper is without a trapper's bag? Or Wraith without faster decloak? Doc without therapy range add-ons? Freddy without lower skill check chances?


They feel horrible, is what.
Mordecai (已封鎖) 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:33 
You can play survivor 30 times for 1 match to killer (matchmaking system) differences.
Itchy Witchy 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 10:42 
The reason killers get more is simpel they are alone and u are with 4 people so u can work together on your objective the killers does not have this privilege
Donut Steel (已封鎖) 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 11:07 
No, it's mainly because the killer has to stay for the while match but survivors can go find a new game as soon as they are out or dead.

Killers getting more points per match on average does not translate to more points per time-played.

Currently there is no way of telling the points per time-played as we don't have the data nor do the devs seem to understand what information is important to collect and collate.
Cujo 2019 年 3 月 26 日 上午 11:13 
Killer get more points overall, but survivors have teammates who help them out. Since there's 4 of them, and each one gets a 5k BP bonus for escaping, whereas killer only gets 2.5k from a 4k, survivors make more BP per game since they are not only done faster but they together outperform the killer's point gain from actions.
Elder_Moloch 2019 年 3 月 26 日 下午 12:06 
If Killer wasn't Gen Rushed or Saboed hard - on average, yes. Killer gets more BP, plus his BP realated Perks, imo, more fitting for grinding and some Killers have very good synergy between their M2 and BP grinding.

Meanwhile, BP gain for Survivors for achieving main goal is more rewarding, same as if Killer DC its more rewarding for Survivors, than 4 Survivors DCed for Killer.
And as been said in my post already, I think that competitve SWF/Solo groups, which tend to use specific strategies gain more BP on average, than Killer for same amount of time (with taking into account successful/failed trials and lobby waiting time).

Anyway, main reasons why Killers get more BP already mentioned:
- Killers hosting and binded to trial progression, while Survivors could leave/suicide and move to next trial
- Killers usually wait more in general, since 1:4
- Killer's add-ons are 1 time use and they don't have any other sources of gaining them
- good Perks for Killers are more important, than for Survivors on average (with Survivors, imo, you usually need good team and items more)

I still would like to see Killers being able to get add-ons/offerings via destroying chests and make average BP grind a bit more hard, but with buffing those Killers.
As for Survivors getting more rewards for secondary goals and stuff like being camped would be nice.
Mad Doctor's Cat 2019 年 3 月 26 日 下午 12:39 
I'm with the OP here. If I want to farm for bloodpoints, I will always use killer. Never survivor.

Survivors have their own "double points" perk but it's far, far inferior to BBQ - WGLF has no benefits other than bloodpoints, and the criteria for getting four stacks are much, much harder to meet (four hook rescues? So the killer has to hook the other three survivors at least four times between 'em - bearing in mind it's literally impossible to get more than six rescues from three survivors - AND you have to reach the hooked survivor first, and escape the encounter clean to get the rescue three more times? Yeah... that's not easy.)

I've had awesome games as survivor when I feel as though I've done everything I possibly could do including surviving, and end up with <20,000 bloodpoints. Meanwhile a mediocre game as Wraith nets me 27,000 bloodpoints, and that's not even taking BBQ into account. Would definitely like to get more BP as survivor.

And as for the "killers get fewer games" argument, well that seems to be a fallacy - to get ANY points as survivor, you need to be in the game for the maximum length of time possible. Ok, you might get through three games in fifteen minutes, but you'll get about three thousand bloodpoints from each one if you're lucky.
最後修改者:Mad Doctor's Cat; 2019 年 3 月 26 日 下午 12:40
Cat Night 2019 年 3 月 26 日 下午 12:45 
As survivor main I feel it's fair the killer gets more. I played killer and I'm always exhausted after a match. As survivor you can goof around a bit and get some extra points with other stuff like sabo, chests and totems, plus if you die fast you start a new game.
Guertena 2019 年 3 月 26 日 下午 1:13 
Yes, I get 7k bp and the killer 21k
Sluzzy 2019 年 3 月 26 日 下午 2:04 
You're not bad, the game favors the killer getting more points. The system is rigged against you. It doesn't reward stealth, they keep nerfing survivors, removing bold play perks. There's something wrong if you can escape unscathed and make only 12k but the killer makes 32k.
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