No pip off of a 4K

[Mr Slatworks]

seriously why don't I get rewarded for killing literally every survivor

[River]

Because the new emblem system is built to make the game fun for the survivors you're playing against, not to be fun for the killer. That's all I can figure out for why they'd design it like they did. Survivors don't like being downed, being on hook, being disturbed from gens, so they made it so you're less likely to "win" if you do these things.

[♥♥♥ Guzzler]

Originally posted by Nargacuga:

Because the new emblem system is built to make the game fun for the survivors you're playing against, not to be fun for the killer. That's all I can figure out for why they'd design it like they did. Survivors don't like being downed, being on hook, being disturbed from gens, so they made it so you're less likely to "win" if you do these things.

"Waahh waahhh survivors op waah wahh buff killers. They made it so killers cant do anything, wah!"

Listen, the new ranking system is straight up broken like everything in this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. Killer ranking is brutally hard, and survivors is broken too. It makes no sense, and they need to fix it.
A killer can get a 4k and not pip, and a survivor can get 20k points, escape, and still not get a pip. Stop crying that its only one sided idiot.
Get more than 200 hours before you start complaining about ♥♥♥♥.

[Cpt_Vunderbar]

Not so sure about that... I just got a 4k as The Plague, against semi-competant Survivors. I didn't camp, I patrolled gens, chased, etc... All the things you'd normally do as Killer, and got a successful 4k, all Iridescent emblems. With only two perks (basically 1, because the second perk was NOED, and it never went off.)

I think if you're playing in a way where you're camping hooked Survivors for an extended period of time, then that's why you're struggling. All that said, the game is absolutely bugged with the new emblem changes, but I'm still finding that I can pip.

[Mr Slatworks]

Originally posted by Cpt_Vunderbar:

Not so sure about that... I just got a 4k as The Plague, against semi-competant Survivors. I didn't camp, I patrolled gens, chased, etc... All the things you'd normally do as Killer, and got a successful 4k, all Iridescent emblems. With only two perks (basically 1, because the second perk was NOED, and it never went off.)

I think if you're playing in a way where you're camping hooked Survivors for an extended period of time, then that's why you're struggling. All that said, the game is absolutely bugged with the new emblem changes, but I'm still finding that I can pip.

only lost 3% on chaser due to "camping" though so idk

[Rabbit]

I looooooooooove the new system, it rewards me for trying to make the match fun for everyone.

[TeosDy_ToasT]

Originally posted by Red Bull:

seriously why don't I get rewarded for killing literally every survivor

Because think of the entity as some entity floating in the sky. He judges everything you do and see's all. There are certain things, written in a book, thousands of years old. And the followers of this book (aka players) are judged in the eyes of this entity. The entity doesn't enjoy when you do certain things. He frowns upon you. Thus his displeasure. Its not all about the kill. Its about the journey to the kill.
This is why a 4k doesn't mean you pip.

[Seiko300]

Originally posted by Nargacuga:

Because the new emblem system is built to make the game fun for the survivors you're playing against, not to be fun for the killer. That's all I can figure out for why they'd design it like they did. Survivors don't like being downed, being on hook, being disturbed from gens, so they made it so you're less likely to "win" if you do these things.

You know, if I'm not mistaken I'm fairly certain both sides were hit with their own respective ranking nerfs to increase the general difficulty it takes to rank. So singling out the killers to be victims of the recent ranking changes when it was both sides is just ridiculous.

It's yet to be seen whether or not the recent ranking changes are actually good changes, but I think we can all agree with the sentiment that ranks (in most games) are there for a reason, a ranked ladder is typically not meant to be easy to climb. Making it harder to rank up so only the truly skilled get the rank they deserve is a sentiment that I think most people can get behind.

To be more clear, skill is not defined as piggybacking off the poor decision making and general skills of your opponents (in this case the survivors). I wouldn't say that a killer who made a 4k because he camped and the survivors all fell into his bait by bumrushing the hook is as deserving as a practiced killer playing the Nurse (notorious for her high skill yet high reward style of gameplay) who goes out and gets the same 4k against survivors who are playing smart. Which I think is what the recent changes were made to set out to do, for both sides.

...or y'know, the changes could just be completely oppressive and set up a ridiculous standard that is almost impossible to achieve. Only time will tell, though I do prefer the former

[l0xigen]

Can't really understand why i have no problem to pip...oh w8,i play killer since 2016 and i don't camp.

Stop camp,stop tunneling,improve ur skills and have fun,u'll pip 100%

[Spekpater]

You got a 4K no one survived BP bonus. So I am guessing there is your reward. Rank has no real in game value....

[Moody]

You guys must be really bad at this game. I just had a game with 2k and got 2 pips. I really have no idea what all of u are talking about bc I'm still ranking up as killer VERY FAST. Wish I had 4k and 0 pip, that would be my dream lol

[Mr Slatworks]

Originally posted by l0xigen:

Can't really understand why i have no problem to pip...oh w8,i play killer since 2016 and i don't camp.

Stop camp,stop tunneling,improve ur skills and have fun,u'll pip 100%

I don't camp I don't tunnel just don't want to literally give survivors 3 extra gens and make the match 2x longer than it needs to be just to pip, I have ranked high before but since reset I am having trouble ranking up when I'd get a pip literally every round

[TeosDy_ToasT]

Originally posted by Wiccano:

You guys must be really bad at this game. I just had a game with 2k and got 2 pips. I really have no idea what all of u are talking about bc I'm still ranking up as killer VERY FAST. Wish I had 4k and 0 pip, that would be my dream lol

Must be in double digit ranks. No hours played shown so little validity. Just have to trust some dude on the internet i guess. But at rank 1. You cannot 2k and double pip, if you 2k you will depip. MAYBE black pip. But I don't know what those conditions would be.

[Mr Slatworks]

Originally posted by Wiccano:

You guys must be really bad at this game. I just had a game with 2k and got 2 pips. I really have no idea what all of u are talking about bc I'm still ranking up as killer VERY FAST. Wish I had 4k and 0 pip, that would be my dream lol

Because you are intentionally pulling your match just to pip

[Mr Slatworks]

Originally posted by Seiko300:

Originally posted by Nargacuga:

Because the new emblem system is built to make the game fun for the survivors you're playing against, not to be fun for the killer. That's all I can figure out for why they'd design it like they did. Survivors don't like being downed, being on hook, being disturbed from gens, so they made it so you're less likely to "win" if you do these things.

You know, if I'm not mistaken I'm fairly certain both sides were hit with their own respective ranking nerfs to increase the general difficulty it takes to rank. So singling out the killers to be victims of the recent ranking changes when it was both sides is just ridiculous.

It's yet to be seen whether or not the recent ranking changes are actually good changes, but I think we can all agree with the sentiment that ranks (in most games) are there for a reason, a ranked ladder is typically not meant to be easy to climb. Making it harder to rank up so only the truly skilled get the rank they deserve is a sentiment that I think most people can get behind.

To be more clear, skill is not defined as piggybacking off the poor decision making and general skills of your opponents (in this case the survivors). I wouldn't say that a killer who made a 4k because he camped and the survivors all fell into his bait by bumrushing the hook is as deserving as a practiced killer playing the Nurse (notorious for her high skill yet high reward style of gameplay) who goes out and gets the same 4k against survivors who are playing smart. Which I think is what the recent changes were made to set out to do, for both sides.

...or y'know, the changes could just be completely oppressive and set up a ridiculous standard that is almost impossible to achieve. Only time will tell, though I do prefer the former

I don't camp and I understand that the very old pip system is not the way to go but I don't want to have to play worse to pip

[Dex]

Show us your emblem score. I have a hard time believing that chasing and hooking each survivor at least 2 times while putting pressure on gens didn't equal a pip.