Which one is better, Whispers or Spy From The Shadows?

[Uncle Sam]

After it's buff I said SFTS isn't between the worst perks for killers, but idk if it's better than whispers. I know it isn't a "meta perk" but i'm trying new builds for fun.
Thanks in advance for any futher reply

[WuffWabbit]

After the buff, spies 100%

[Uncle Sam]

Originally posted by SleepyBunny:

After the buff, spies 100%

Thanks for the reply! Do you can tell me in which killer it might be a useful perk, please? Thanks for any futher advices!

[Alfred Kodani]

Whispers.
Spies relies heavily on which map you get.

[WuffWabbit]

Originally posted by Ablutomaniac:

Whispers.
Spies relies heavily on which map you get.

So does whispers, if you're in the middle of ;the game map; a survivor could be above or in any compass direction. Spies will show you where they are almost exactly.

[Ozone]

Bbq chill

[gzilladude]

Originally posted by SleepyBunny:

Originally posted by Ablutomaniac:

Whispers.
Spies relies heavily on which map you get.

So does whispers, if you're in the middle of ;the game map; a survivor could be above or in any compass direction. Spies will show you where they are almost exactly.

But you consistently get less use out of Spies then you would from Whispers

[Uncle Sam]

Originally posted by Ablutomaniac:

Whispers.
Spies relies heavily on which map you get.

So if the amount of crows is buffed, SFTS might be better than whispers in your opinion?

[Uncle Sam]

Originally posted by gzilladude:

Originally posted by SleepyBunny:

So does whispers, if you're in the middle of ;the game map; a survivor could be above or in any compass direction. Spies will show you where they are almost exactly.

But you consistently get less use out of Spies then you would from Whispers

Even on small terror radius builds for the hag, myres, spirit, legion, etc?

[Tzeentchling9]

The problem with Spies is you don't actually realize how few crows there are on most maps. Start running SFtS for a bit and you'll notice how little it goes off.

[miasma]

whispers

spies is just explosions ASMR and it doesn't help you against immersed survivors who are actually hiding from you

[MrBjomolf]

I would recommend watching a video on how to best use whispers if your not already good at it. Meat packing plant especially can make it tricky

[Evil Henchman]

spies is probably more useful during most of the match, endgame you can maybe avoid crows, but you are not hiding from whispers.

[Sairek Ceareste]

Whisperers.

Spies from the Shadows is countered both by calm spirit, urban evasion, and just crouching in general.

If you're skilled, you don't need spies from the shadows when you see a crow fly off in the distance or just coming in for a landing, you know a survivor is nearby usually, and whisperers can confirm that.


You don't generally use Whisperers to know where survivors are anyways unless there's only one or two left -- you use it to know where survivors are not in the area, drastically reducing searching time and greatly increasing your searching radius without needing to always look around every nook and cranny, and is useful at all points in the game. Any perk that drastically saves time is a good perk for killer, and Whisperers does that.

[Ryu the Fox]

Whispers. And Crows only spawn in an area where survivors are.

[Laakeri]

Sairek Ceareste said it all there is to know. Well put.