The Plague is Overpowered

[Codexrun]

1. I play both sides killer and survivor though mostly killer.
2. when comparing the plague to other killers like nurse . hillbilly . Spirit etc... they all take some skill to use to be good.
But The Plague takes Zero skill just find a survivor and puke on him till the survivor is broken and to add salt to the wound the plague literally cannot miss unless your far enough away and manage to get behind a wall before she reaches you.
3. Example Nurse: you need to train your muscle memory and good amount of skill to play the best killer in game correctly (but if you can't play nurse correctly she is the weakest killer in game)
Now lets look at the Plague your literally W+M2 (or whatever button you charge your vomit with) the survivor like if you say its hard to hit with her vomit then you my friend are a horrible killer because its one of the easiest things to do just W+M2 and soon the survivor is broken and you can 1 hit him this is not even mentioning her being able to use the Vile Purge which lets her basically have a AOE attack which makes it even easier to down survivors.
The only other killer do have a AOE attack is Leatherface and he is heavily Defensive.
4. Example hillbilly: has a 1 hit Chainsaw well you need to hit with the chainsaw which needs some skill to use properly (predicting if the survivor is gonna loop or not) hillbilly also still eats pallets.
The Plague you can just W+M2 over a pallet or whenever you'r chasing a survivor and they will get either broken (1 hit) or hurt because of the vile purge.
5. MM it takes time for him to build up his EW3 to get his own 1 hits but he can still be kept away with pallets and jukes if you play correctly.
6.You know what the Plague is Literally a Better Huntress
7. The Spirit you need skill to MindGame the survivors
The Plague needs no skill at all if you can chase and keep on a survivor you have already won you can literally end most chases under 10-20 seconds
8. i Would call myself a killer main since i play around 3-7 games as survivor per day and around 12-30+ games as killer per day (this is for people doubting me if i am a killer player or not)
9.Proposed Fixes to the Plague: She slows down while charging her Vomit and also stays slowed down while Vomiting (kinda like the doctor who slows down while charging his shock attacks.
She can only get Vile Purge if all the fountains on the map have been used then she gets the vile purge for around 60-90 seconds.
and the final fix make the plague 110% movement speed killer.
10. i reiterate a killer should not Simply have a OP Ability without any drawbacks.
Example the Nurse: needs a lot of Muscle Memory and skill to time her blinks right.
Example the Spirit: you need to know how to mind game and listen out for certain sounds.
Example the Hillbilly: you need to know when to use his chainsaw and which routes are optimal for Mobility when patrolling Generators.
Example MM: you still need to hit the survivors even after you have gotten to EW3.
Example the Legion: needs to be skillful to know when to chase down survivors and when to protect the generators
Example the Clown: his Power only slows people in a chase meaning while you can block off some loops and make some areas Death sentences he can still be looped or juked.

I would not mind if the Plague took some skill to use but she takes 0 skill to use If you suck playing as the killer the Plague is the perfect killer for you since she takes 0 ZERO skill to be good with.

Essentialy The Plague in her current State is Way too Overpowered and she needs some nerfs to be brought in line with the rest of the killers.

-Codexrun

[wrillexx]

overpowered? lol. Im playing her since release now and even say she is a bit weak. when you brake a survivor they can still loop you like every other killer and there is no counter to that if they dont cleanse themselves. also a pool of devotion isnt always nearby and you have to give up the chase and find a new one. the survivors can just choose to not heal up at all wich makes you m1 simulator 2019. if the survivors are good they wont heal up and well , you cant do much about that. sure they are one hit but if they know how to loop they can waste enough of your time to make you weak. so i wouldnt say she is op.

[Infinite]

Will every killer that got realesed will be called : OP, no skill needed ?

[wrillexx]

Originally posted by I love Nea <3:

Will every killer that got realesed will be called : OP, no skill needed ?

yes

[Elder_Moloch]

OP=/= easy to use

Also I highly doubt that Plague has effective potential of Nurse or even Hillbilly, since she can't cover big areas fast, teleport or insta-down with M2.

As for critics of her abilities, from what I've seen so far - AoE damage attack is quite rare thing (since highly dependant on Survivors being in same area, while Vile Purge being active), plus it's not insta down, so while she has it easier and has some range aspect of it compared to Leaterface, its effect less rewarding. On top of that, as far as I remember she's slower not only when charging her vomit, but also when carrying it charged.

>and soon the survivor is broken
Well, I wouldn't say it being soon on default.
Her mechanics basically slow down her (since you need to waste time to puke enough on Survivor/objects and use fountains) and Survivors at the same time compared to more effective Killers.

[Red Luster YT]

1. I highly doubt that.
2. No, it's not. Unless you're using her most powerful addons and are able to get pretty much RIGHT on top of a survivor with a full blast ready, you aren't going to break them without puking on them a few times. Nurse and hilbilly are MUCH better than her due to their mobility and power to down people. Plague can easily be looped and her power does nothing to stop it unless corrupt happens to be nearby and even then the slow charge up, slow release, and after puke slowness will make hitting anything that isn't in the open stupidly difficult.
3. This only applies if you're like....out in the open like a cornfield or something, and even then the plague doesn't down survivors much faster than the nurse. Thing is, in a jungle gym, that nurse is going to down that survivor a LOT faster because she can't be looped nearly as easily as plague can.
4.Unless you have corrupt purge, you are STILL unable to hurt the survivor without having to m1 them or break the pallet. Plus, depending on the objects around, the survivor can easily hide out of the way of the spit if there are high walls nearby. Is she better in this situation? Probably, but that doesn't make up for her flaws.
5.MM can activate his instadowns WHENEVER he wants since he can charge it ahead of time, and his ew3 buffs his lunge and window vault. If you give him bamboozle then good luck trying to get away from him without a pallet. Plus ew3 makes all survivors one hit downs all at the same time, if they're grouped together you can get a lot of downs quickly and easily. Though, MM isn't that good of a killer to begin with anyway, so comparing the two doesn't mean much.
6.Better? Not even close. Easier to injure survivors with? Yup. Though that doesn't matter since it's so easy to heal in the first place.
7.You don't NEED to mindgame with spirit, she just benefits the most from it. Also her passive phasing is already a mindgame since it's hard to tell where she's going a lot of the time. Again, you get to a loop with a plague and her sickness doesn't mean nearly as much anymore.
8. See point 1.
9.And this is why I doubted you, because obviously if you've played plague you'd know this is already a thing. She slows down when she charges, she's slowed whilst releasing, and she has a slowdown afterward. You aren't fooling anyone buddy, you just suck against plague, which is sad because she's a bad killer.
10. Literally read any of my points, Plague is an awful killer, she's stupidly slow and slows down even more with her power. She has no map pressure, her sickness takes forever to break and can be healed faster than just m1ing them, her corrupt relies on survivors to cleanse in the first place and can easily just be waited out, she can get looped really easily because her power does nothing to speed her up or slow survivors down, the plague is weak.

Tldr; OP is a survivor main who thinks a really weak killer needs nerfs because he can't get good.

[Cujo]

The plague is just as annoying as Legion. They both absolutely wreck me, a stealth survivor. Unfortunately, I'm in the minority, and loopers have no trouble at all with these killers. I'm terrible against Freddy cause of the whole stealth thing, does that mean that he's OP?

[Cantrell]

She seems to be strong for sure. Didn't try her though. Sometimes when u play it u realize that it's not that easy, but if u already played with her a lot I suppose u know what u are talking about. I'll try her but not now I'm with the spirit these days and after that I'll finally give 1 or 2 months try to the nurse.

[Codexrun]

Wraith/hillbilly used to be my old killer mains but nowadays i mostly play Spirit/Legion and Clown.

These Killers i don't play often but still play them often enough to be decent: Trapper . Hag . MM . Doctor

i will Admit i only played The Plague During the PTB i still stand by my opinion that she is way too strong Maybe not Overpowered But Way too strong still.

I played killer for basically most of the time from 2016-2019 then got bored around 2017 and tried out the survivor side 2017-2019

Maybe i think The Plague is Overpowered because whenever i do play survivor i ain't the best in chases: Skill Checks: good . Hiding: good . Escaping Chases: Bad That is how i would rank myself as a survivor.

The First time i picked up Dead By daylight was around when the Last Breath Chapter Released.

This Post is to Answer some points thrown at me in this discussion.

I will Admit i was Salty when i made this post originally because i had just been on a 4 Kill 3 win streak and decided to play my First daily survivor match for the XP and then get destroyed by a plague made me salty but i will still admit The Plague is too Strong she can even Infect Windows . Generators . Pallets . Which means you can really play Stealhty unless you want to wait extended periods of time for the sickness to go away from the Generator.

is there a Website for Dead by Daylight stats anywhere?

i don't play survivor often because i don't like the vulnerability i feel when i am in the game i prefer playing the killer where i am the one dishing out the Damage (i am kinda sadistic)
i am pretty selfish if i was given a choice between my life and someone else i would kill the other person.