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aravanilla Mar 10, 2020 @ 8:17pm
Exposed Status with Gunslinger?
Okay I ain't gonna lie - the Gunslinger with a perk that enables the exposed status effect is just a teeny weeny bit unfair and unbalanced. I say "teeny weeny" because, well, every killer has a right to perks with exposed status. BUT this all has to do with killer mechanics.

What I'm trying to say is when the Gunslinger has an exposed perk (noed, iron maiden, haunted grounds, etc etc.) they shoot with their harpoon and then smack the survivor. Okay fine. But the thing is, isn't the harpoon technically an m2 hit? and then the smack is the usual m1? So in essence, the killer is getting away with using exposed statuses with their m2 rather than their m1, which is what all killers should be like. Survivors with the exposed status are getting hit by an m2 and being instantly downed. IMO I feel like if the Gunslinger killers want to use exposed perks they have to chase the survivors and hit them with solely m1 just like any other killer.

Thoughts?
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kyle_rad Mar 10, 2020 @ 8:22pm 
If they count his hook slash as not a basic attack this killer will lose out on basically every perk that makes him decent like STBFL. He's already too slow to catch people so Exposed perks would be yet another pile of perks not useful to him.
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TonToE Mar 10, 2020 @ 8:23pm 
While yes this is a stronger combo, I don't think its unfair. Not only can you bait/dodge his attack, but you can use objects to break out.

I also don't see an issue with using the m2 as the dmg is dealt with m1. Spirit, wraith, nurse, etc use their power to get closer to a survivor and m1 them. Deathslinger is no exception, but instead of getting himself closer, he brings the survivor to him. That's the way I see it anyhow.
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aravanilla Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by TonToE:
While yes this is a stronger combo, I don't think its unfair. Not only can you bait/dodge his attack, but you can use objects to break out.

I also don't see an issue with using the m2 as the dmg is dealt with m1. Spirit, wraith, nurse, etc use their power to get closer to a survivor and m1 them. Deathslinger is no exception, but instead of getting himself closer, he brings the survivor to him. That's the way I see it anyhow.


Originally posted by kyle_rad:
If they count his hook slash as not a basic attack this killer will lose out on basically every perk that makes him decent like STBFL. He's already too slow to catch people so Exposed perks would be yet another pile of perks not useful to him.

While I would agree with both of you, I would keep in mind that the m2 injures you no matter what and NOT just the m1. With that said, Gunslinger is able to, in fact, harpoon you (m2) and have it released just in time to be lunged at with an m1 and be downed WITHOUT the exposed status effect.
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aravanilla Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:44pm 
I just went through a game against the Gunslinger actually and (I made sure to check his item add-ons, which he didn't have any of) he was able to shoot me, and then down me immediately. I was not injured before getting shot, I was not exposed, and he was not stunned.
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Elric Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by aravanilla:
I just went through a game against the Gunslinger actually and (I made sure to check his item add-ons, which he didn't have any of) he was able to shoot me, and then down me immediately. I was not injured before getting shot, I was not exposed, and he was not stunned.

You could have just come out of the closet directly and admit that you use No Mither.
It's okay. We're all a little different. Makes life more spicy.
#5
mykidsnamedme (Banned) Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:51pm 
Originally posted by aravanilla:
Okay I ain't gonna lie - the Gunslinger with a perk that enables the exposed status effect is just a teeny weeny bit unfair and unbalanced. I say "teeny weeny" because, well, every killer has a right to perks with exposed status. BUT this all has to do with killer mechanics.

What I'm trying to say is when the Gunslinger has an exposed perk (noed, iron maiden, haunted grounds, etc etc.) they shoot with their harpoon and then smack the survivor. Okay fine. But the thing is, isn't the harpoon technically an m2 hit? and then the smack is the usual m1? So in essence, the killer is getting away with using exposed statuses with their m2 rather than their m1, which is what all killers should be like. Survivors with the exposed status are getting hit by an m2 and being instantly downed. IMO I feel like if the Gunslinger killers want to use exposed perks they have to chase the survivors and hit them with solely m1 just like any other killer.

Thoughts?

Exactly my thoughts.

Anything that changes a basic attack shouldn't count for any 1 tap perks.
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aravanilla Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:52pm 
Originally posted by Elric:
Originally posted by aravanilla:
I just went through a game against the Gunslinger actually and (I made sure to check his item add-ons, which he didn't have any of) he was able to shoot me, and then down me immediately. I was not injured before getting shot, I was not exposed, and he was not stunned.

You could have just come out of the closet directly and admit that you use No Mither.
It's okay. We're all a little different. Makes life more spicy.

I didn't have No Mither and I was hiding behind a tree when he found me, nowhere near a locker.
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kyle_rad Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:53pm 
Originally posted by aravanilla:
Originally posted by TonToE:
While yes this is a stronger combo, I don't think its unfair. Not only can you bait/dodge his attack, but you can use objects to break out.

I also don't see an issue with using the m2 as the dmg is dealt with m1. Spirit, wraith, nurse, etc use their power to get closer to a survivor and m1 them. Deathslinger is no exception, but instead of getting himself closer, he brings the survivor to him. That's the way I see it anyhow.


Originally posted by kyle_rad:
If they count his hook slash as not a basic attack this killer will lose out on basically every perk that makes him decent like STBFL. He's already too slow to catch people so Exposed perks would be yet another pile of perks not useful to him.

While I would agree with both of you, I would keep in mind that the m2 injures you no matter what and NOT just the m1. With that said, Gunslinger is able to, in fact, harpoon you (m2) and have it released just in time to be lunged at with an m1 and be downed WITHOUT the exposed status effect.

The harpoon only injures if it's broken therefore stunning the killer.
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Elric Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by aravanilla:
Originally posted by Elric:

You could have just come out of the closet directly and admit that you use No Mither.
It's okay. We're all a little different. Makes life more spicy.

I didn't have No Mither and I was hiding behind a tree when he found me, nowhere near a locker.

Ah, that went straight over your head. Sorry for attempting to use humour on you.
If you don't like humour, here's cold, clinical facts:

Bugs.
BUGS.
Hackers.
BUUUUUUGS AGAIN.
HACKERS.

I've had Cloaked Wraith + Speed Addons movement speed for a whole match with the Deathslinger in one game.

Bugs.
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aravanilla Mar 10, 2020 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by kyle_rad:
Originally posted by aravanilla:




While I would agree with both of you, I would keep in mind that the m2 injures you no matter what and NOT just the m1. With that said, Gunslinger is able to, in fact, harpoon you (m2) and have it released just in time to be lunged at with an m1 and be downed WITHOUT the exposed status effect.

The harpoon only injures if it's broken therefore stunning the killer.

I didn't break the harpoon, so he was not stunned. But he downed me immediately any way... What's the explanation behind this?
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Elric Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by aravanilla:
Originally posted by kyle_rad:

The harpoon only injures if it's broken therefore stunning the killer.

I didn't break the harpoon, so he was not stunned. But he downed me immediately any way... What's the explanation behind this?

Lagspike so long he was able to reel you in and hit you twice before the connection was back in sync?

Hacking?

Bugs?

It's in no way intentional to just make you go down on the ground in an instant.

Unless you experience this very situation multiple, MULTIPLE times, it's just anecdotal evidence ( and to be honest it still is even if it happens to you every match, but that makes it more credible )

So instead of making a thread complaining because you got one-hit due to some bug or hack and call for a nerf, keep your pants on and see if it's a regular thing.

He's gotta reel you in, that takes quite a bit of time, just like getting close for other killers that use exposed with their M1. I don't see the issue,
Last edited by Elric; Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:03pm
#11
Terratrox (Banned) Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:03pm 
Originally posted by Elric:
Originally posted by aravanilla:

I didn't have No Mither and I was hiding behind a tree when he found me, nowhere near a locker.

Ah, that went straight over your head. Sorry for attempting to use humour on you.
If you don't like humour, here's cold, clinical facts:

Bugs.
BUGS.
Hackers.
BUUUUUUGS AGAIN.
HACKERS.

I've had Cloaked Wraith + Speed Addons movement speed for a whole match with the Deathslinger in one game.

Bugs.
NNNNNEEEOOOOOOOWWWW
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Elric Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by Terratrox:
Originally posted by Elric:

Ah, that went straight over your head. Sorry for attempting to use humour on you.
If you don't like humour, here's cold, clinical facts:

Bugs.
BUGS.
Hackers.
BUUUUUUGS AGAIN.
HACKERS.

I've had Cloaked Wraith + Speed Addons movement speed for a whole match with the Deathslinger in one game.

Bugs.
NNNNNEEEOOOOOOOWWWW

It was -quite- fast. One could say it was close to approaching maximum warp.

Yeah I only hooked everyone 2 times for a challenge and BBQ tokens and went friendly.
Not exactly fair going at THAT speed all the time, with a GUN.
Last edited by Elric; Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:05pm
#13
aravanilla Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:24pm 
Originally posted by Elric:
Originally posted by aravanilla:

I didn't break the harpoon, so he was not stunned. But he downed me immediately any way... What's the explanation behind this?

Lagspike so long he was able to reel you in and hit you twice before the connection was back in sync?

Hacking?

Bugs?

It's in no way intentional to just make you go down on the ground in an instant.

Unless you experience this very situation multiple, MULTIPLE times, it's just anecdotal evidence ( and to be honest it still is even if it happens to you every match, but that makes it more credible )

So instead of making a thread complaining because you got one-hit due to some bug or hack and call for a nerf, keep your pants on and see if it's a regular thing.

He's gotta reel you in, that takes quite a bit of time, just like getting close for other killers that use exposed with their M1. I don't see the issue,

I sincerely hope its a bug bec I've counted 3 times that that's happened to me thinking it was my fault somehow as if I didn't notice something but... Yeah idk. And I'm sorry about posting the discussion :/ I was just trying to seek some thoughts and whatnot..
#14
Elric Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:29pm 
It's generally fine to start a discussion really, but severy gimping half the perks for a killer because of one thing that might well be a bug... well one should take a more patient and observant approach in this bug-filled hellhole called DBD.

Someone had a bad experience: NERF THIS!
It happens everyday and you already stand out from the rest by not throwing a hissy fit when someone is not sharing your opinion. :steamhappy:

Give it a week. Or two. Or three...
They have whole boatload of stuff to fix before this DLC can be called stable enough to make serious balance suggestions on THAT scale.
Last edited by Elric; Mar 10, 2020 @ 10:31pm
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