SWF ruined the skill of this game

[Long Bottom Leaf]

As soon as SWF players play solo, they are the most gawd awful, abusive, low IQ, baddies of any video game I have every played. I have played this game since release. When SWF was added, I quit. Because being able to communicate with coms in a solo game against 1 other person is broken. It ruins the game not only for anybody not in your group, because 99% of the time the SWF players will not do anything that will aid anybody not in their group, but you are also ruining the game for yourself.

The game was designed to "simulate" being dropped in an un-known environment against a player who wants to kill you, allied with 3 other randos. That is literally the entire premise of the game. SWF destroyed this aspect, and, in a sense, destroyed the core of the game. Even having 1 other person on a comm, telling you exactly where the killer is and what he/she is doing, breaks the game. Let alone up to 3 other people doing this. This isn't CS-GO.

Has SWF benefited the growth of the player base? Yes. Is it great being able to play video games with your friends? Yes. Was SWF necessary? Actually, yes, because before SWF, people would disconnect from lobbies over and over until Survivors are matched into lobbies with their friends. This ABUSE extended the wait times for lobbies by an absurd amount of time, and the devs were forced to implement SWF. That is correct. The only reason SWF is in the game, is because Survivors ABUSED the game. That is fact.

Are you starting to see a problem with SWF in this game? It ruins the basis of the game, it encourages selfishness within the party (which is the complete opposite of what the game is about), and only exists because Survivors abused the lobby system to be matched with friends.

So is it really surprising that the majority of people who play SWF are so bad at the game, it's actually funny? Is it really surprising that SWF survivors are the biggest cry babies in the game?

SWF made me quit this game. Because it's not fun completing multiple gens by myself, getting tunneled by the killer for 5 minutes because the other survivors are memeing in the corner or something, then sit on the hook for 2 minutes watching 3 people crouch behind rocks doing nothing, every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. It's not fun being body blocked in the basement because the SWF Survivor who happened to fall into the basement, can't run in a straight up the stairs, or position themselves to prevent the unhooked survivor from being immediately downed. It's not fun never being healed. It's not fun knowing that the majority of the games you will play, will have a SWF group who will do absolutely nothing to aid you in any situation.

SWF ruined this game, not only because it drastically lowered the skill required to climb Survivor ranks, but because it removed the core aspect, the ENTIRE premise, from the game. You might be thinking at this point. Wait. WHy the hell is this person even playing DbD then? That is a question I ask myself every day. I quit for over a year, but that doesn't mean I didn't miss the game. I love DbD. DbD is and will always be one of my favorite video games of all time. The Stranger Things DLC basically convinced me to give DbD another shot, and I cannot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wait to be done with this game forever.

[Dino]

must hurt to make this post just to have no one read it :^)

[V to Up]

Not reading that, but I disagree completely.

[DavideHyde]

+1

[Sir Tontonolous]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Dino:

must hurt to make this post just to have no one read it :^)

Congrats, you just defeated your own point.

Personally OP, I see SWF as a necessary evil. As you have pointed out, you either make playing with friends a simple and convenient option, or you restrict it and simultaneously lose a large amount of interest in the game while also having people plague queues looking for each other anyway. I wish it wasn't like that, as it defeats the original purpose of the game, but that's just how it is unfortunately. If it can keep the game thriving for years to come, than I don't have much to complain about.

[1Azterisk]

go look at stats you literally are complaining about swf 4 man that makes up 3% of gameplay. 3 out of 100 matches is what you are crying about. whats next the 80% win ratio killers have isnt enough? or how about killers having balanced landing lol but complain and get it nerfed surv side LOL

[Karlore]

Diposting pertama kali oleh LongBottomLeaf:

I have played this game since release. When SWF was added, I quit.

SWF was added 1 month after release. You have achievements spanning all 3 last years. Maybe you don't understand what quitting means. You're also currently playing the game and have 1600+ hours. I think this is just a case of "mad cuz bad".

[Local Dog]

Just get a friends, or move on. Yes it sucks when youre stuck with 3 swf potatoes who will farm you, but not every game is same. I highly doubt that. Just accept swf like everyone else and move on.

[xTawnyxTTV]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cherry:

Not reading that, but I disagree completely.

LMFAO SAME.

[ThisCatStreams]

I've slaughtered and been slaughtered by the killer going against and going in as a SWF squad.

If you are struggling you are the one doing something wrong.

[Toasty]

I give him a point about finding only potatoes in match cause most of the times swf groups NEVER play alone and if they do it, well, the results are horrible... Btw you shouldn't classified swf as a bad thing: sometimes it's good to play with a friend (or face an entire swf group). Just to say, I've recently finished (and won) a match against a toxic swf group with my trapper: it's always satisfying beat those people (you can't imagine the amount of salt )

[dwelf on a shelf]

So since SWF players are the "most gawd awful, abusive, low IQ" when they play solo. Are you saying that when you have 4 of the most"most gawd awful, abusive, low IQ" players playing together, they are too tough to beat? Lol get good.

[SirRantsAlot]

OK so it is a topic.
So if it is a problem why dont they let the killer decide on their own if they want to play with a swf team? I mean they can still cheat. But you should not force other players to play with them and so you support cheating indirectly.
If you would be honest you would have implemented ingame voice chat as in Phasmophobia. But you did not.
And if you are sure, most players agree with swf teams and third party voice chat then why dont you give the killer this information in time while in the lobby? Why?

[River]

You're obviously right OP, but according to the devs, survivors are the real players of this game. Killers are just bots the devs don't have to waste time making AI for. All we can really hope for is that enough killers stop playing that the devs actually have to make killer bots, and this game can become the surv experience the devs really want.

[romy]

swf doesn't have voice support.

what you are thinking about are cheaters who use third party program to get an advantage.

I'm sick of people whining about swf when the problem is obviously cheaters.

swf is just playing with people you met on the game and want to play, the alternative being the awful matchmaking that makes the game unplayable.

[River]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Romy:

swf doesn't have voice support.

what you are thinking about are cheaters who use third party program to get an advantage.

I'm sick of people whining about swf when the problem is obviously cheaters.

swf is just playing with people you met on the game and want to play, the alternative being the awful matchmaking that makes the game unplayable.

If only the devs thought like you. It's obvious what the problem is, but they just want to pretend it's not an issue. I especially love that they're now insisting that the game was always intended to have voice chat, when they spent actual years admitting it wasn't intended and they wanted to balance SWF to make up for that. And then they just... didn't. And started telling us we imagined them saying it before.