What Counts as a Win (To You)

[Schorl Tourmaline]

So earlier I got a surv ranting to me post chat about how, despite killing 3 people (including them), I "Didn't win" because their rank 2 SWF friend made it out against a rank 13 killer. I, of course, told them that was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid to say, but It does make me wonder. To any and all killers, what do you consider a win?

Honestly, I consider killing anyone in a match a win in my books, cause I am playing killer to kill. However, my real thoughts on winning is 2 kills is a draw, 3 is a win, and four is a perfect victory. I don't care about pipping much, so I hardly pay attention to that, but I understand that that some would see it as a way of determining a win. Still, I kinda want to see waht public opinion on this topic is.

[Shadow Esper]

As a survivor: If I escape alive. But If I gave up my life to unhook someone and they survive, I do enjoy that.

As a killer: If I made the survivor so afraid of me, that they aren't willing to t-bag at the exit gates and wait for me even if they have the means to escape. I prefer having a 3k game where we race to the hatch though.

Edit: Killing 1-2 people is okay. Especially if they were the super try hard loopers.

But If i only get 2k, and after the game I found out I killed the 16 and 18 rank, but the 8 and 6 got away, I just feel bad. I'd rather demolish their high tier friends, then pick on people new to the game. Sadly, they removed seeing ranks in lobby, so I can't target the better players anymore. :(

[The Sin Of Cain]

Killer : 2 Kills is a win, anything above 2 Kills is just gravy points. Anything Less than 2 Kills is a loss.

Survivor : Pip is the win. You're not supposed to Survive very often, maybe half your matches... if you're lucky. That means it's balanced that for 2 Die, 2 Live every single match.

[Doom Punk]

Either I kill them all or I don't.

I hate the idea of multiple winners. That ♥♥♥♥ is stupid.

[Armskul]

Personally to me, one kill is enough, even if I have to play dirty and be told to "die" for it, what can I say, I don't follow the "Unwritten Rules" made by the survivors.

Then again, last time I said that, people told me to quit the game because "If you're not playing to win, then uninstall and vanish from this community" (It was to be harsher, but I fluffed it up)

[Nikanoru]

As a killer = Hooked everyone at least once + 1 or 2 kills regardless of pip due to how messed up that thing is

As survivor = Depends... sometimes i feel like sacrificing myself for the team while "The Bodyguard" theme plays in the background is worth it and other times i say "forget this, i'm leaving" and i focus only on gens

A hatch escape does NOT feel as a win to me

[Munchy]

Gates opened: survivors win
Gates closed: killer wins

If a survivor could have left through the gates, they've won in my mind. Everything afterwards doesnt count. 1 kill when the gates got opened, but 4k'ed because they suicide to the hook -> Still a loss and a 1k in my books.

[Doom Punk]

Originally posted by Weederick:

Gates opened: survivors win
Gates closed: killer wins

If a survivor could have left through the gates, they've won in my mind. Everything afterwards doesnt count. 1 kill when the gates got opened, but 4k'ed because they suicide to the hook -> Still a loss and a 1k in my books.

I feel the same way, sadly end game is Survivor sided to hell and back.

[Schorl Tourmaline]

Originally posted by Weederick:

Gates opened: survivors win
Gates closed: killer wins

If a survivor could have left through the gates, they've won in my mind. Everything afterwards doesnt count. 1 kill when the gates got opened, but 4k'ed because they suicide to the hook -> Still a loss and a 1k in my books.

See, I can follow this mindset. It means that if the last guy escpaes out the hatch, then it's still a win for the killer, but out the gate was a fair loss. I still don't feel that way myself, but I can follow this line of logic.

[dont_ask_me_again]

Depends on the killer

I killed two and put atleast 1 more on a hook... I think that’s a win for me personally despite the emblem system no longer supports it. If the killer is defensive then expect less chases from them, if they’re offensive then expected them to be poor at defending (sadly nurse is good at both encouraging some players to play her defensively once they’re ahead)

I killed 4? That’s a double pip.

Depends on my role as a survivor

I didn’t get to touch a gen but wasted a lot of time... I think I earned atleast 1 pip.

I did a load of gens and didn’t get caught? I think a deserve a pip.

I couldn’t waste a lot of the killer’s time nor do gens? Depip.

I couldn’t do enough gens but escaped? Depip.

I did gens and kept the killer busy? Double pip.

Rescuing and escaping are too luck based and simple to define how skilled a survivor is.

That’s why you see a lot of not so great survivors at the top.

[Munchy]

Originally posted by Doom Punk:

Originally posted by Weederick:

Gates opened: survivors win
Gates closed: killer wins

If a survivor could have left through the gates, they've won in my mind. Everything afterwards doesnt count. 1 kill when the gates got opened, but 4k'ed because they suicide to the hook -> Still a loss and a 1k in my books.

I feel the same way, sadly end game is Survivor sided to hell and back.

Its really rough without a oneshot killer. And then there's BT, which really shouldnt work after the gates are opened (I like BT in general. Just not then, when theres no counterplay to a free escape)

[Y'hate T'see It]

Well technically you can "win" without getting a single kill, but for me to actually feel good about how a game went:

- Complete BBQ stacks
- 3+ kills (4 if I'm going for an achievement)
- max BP in deviousness, hunting and brutality
- 6k+ BP in sacrifice