What Actually Happened in the "Official" tournament.

[Sernior]

I will make it easy and simple guys.

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10. HATCH STAND OFF; Who ever finds the hatch first at the beginning of the hatch stand off, gets the point.
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This is what the rule said.

So as you can see "Who ever finds the hatch first at the beginning of the hatch stand off, gets the point."

Marth got there (at the hatch) after having put the second-last survivor on the hook before opponent survivor. He assumed that by the rule he had won the standoff and hitted the survivor who jumped in.

After the game that we assumed we had won Marth was contacted by the Space Esports Administration who told him that the rule was modified (on the fly as you can see on their main website still hasn't even changed lol)
https://battlefy.com/space-esports/escape-dead-by-daylight-anniversary-event-%5Bpc%5D/5b1f3cb564ffc103bb0c2298/participants

(I saved the html on my pc in case they decide to change it on the run)

to

"The hatch must be already open before the killer gets there".

So... after some discussion the administration Demon and Tello basically told us that it was rematch or nothing even if technically by the rules (their own rules) we had already won.

It is what it is... but one simple suggestion.

Bhvr never trust Space ESports again with anything.

You can't have an official tournament change the rules after match. Thanks.

[FiniteThrills]

A hatch standoff occurs to moment the last two players have both decided that they are pursuing the hatch as their final option i.e. the survivor goes for the hatch and TR killer contests it, and they are present at the hatch. Open or closed should not matter when it's a) a certainty the hatch is GOING to open, and b) the two players have decided to contest it. If the survivor had gone off to find a gen instead of the hatch - no stand-off. If they met somewhere outside of the hatch - no stand-off. Being AT the hatch, intending to use it, and it's availability being imminent - hatch stand-off.

If two gunslingers are facing each other with their hands over their hips - it's a stand-off, it doesn't matter if no one has pulled their gun out yet.

[†Deicide†]

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

I don't I clearly see the nurse in the center of the hatch and claudette feet on the corner cause she arrived on the hatch After the nurse.

Maybe this game hitboxes confuse you if that is the case I suggest you try it on a kyf take some screenshots and compare them to the clip to understand who actually was on the top center of the hatch and who was on the corner.

So you are stating that you have to touch the unopened hatch first to be the winner ? So all claudette had to do was walk over the hatch before squatting at that tree to camp it ? She auto wins by just touching an unopened hatch ?

She actually would've if she wasn't injured. I do think that the two hits needed to take her down would've been too much and the nurse would've been stuck in recovery from the hits. You see, there's a lot that comes into the equation of this particular stand-off. It's not just about who was on it first, or who found it first ( which is a reason why I think hatch should've never been a rule in the first place. They should've just removed it from the tournament entirely) it's also about who would've been able to get in , or grabbed out, first.

The whole thing is properly flawed. I don't blame people for thinking the survivor won, I truly don't.

[DragonFly]

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

Like in the PTB with the BHVR fix this rule was supposed to work the same way. So since marth touched the hatch first he should have been able to deny it.

You're talking about closing the hatch ? That mechanic was never in the official public build. So I don't know what you are trying to say with that. That mechanic has never existed for the public build.

[Sernior]

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

Like in the PTB with the BHVR fix this rule was supposed to work the same way. So since marth touched the hatch first he should have been able to deny it.

You're talking about closing the hatch ? That mechanic was never in the official public build. So I don't know what you are trying to say with that. That mechanic has never existed for the public build.

So? I am talking about what the purpose of this rule was. Why does it matter if it was in the public build or not you guys are so confusing with your arguments.

I just tryed to make you understand why Marth had won there if the original Space Esport pre-edit rule was applyed.

[DragonFly]

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

You're talking about closing the hatch ? That mechanic was never in the official public build. So I don't know what you are trying to say with that. That mechanic has never existed for the public build.

So? I am talking about what the purpose of this rule was. Why does it matter if it was in the public build or not you guys are so confusing with your arguments.

I just tryed to make you understand why Marth had won there if the original Space Esport pre-edit rule was applyed.

This mechanic does not exist in the game. Simple.

[Mister Holdout]

This whole tournament was a complete sham.

I couldn't believe it when I found out one of the commentators only had 74 freaking hours in the game!

Why are they letting rank 20s make the decisions?

But I went back and re watched what happened. They totally changed the rule at the last second. That commentator said "for it to be a hatch stand off, the hatch must be open". It never said that in their official rules. How could they make a ruling like that when their own rules aren't clear enough?

#JusticeForMarth

[Sernior]

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

So? I am talking about what the purpose of this rule was. Why does it matter if it was in the public build or not you guys are so confusing with your arguments.

I just tryed to make you understand why Marth had won there if the original Space Esport pre-edit rule was applyed.

This mechanic does not exist in the game. Simple.

But it exists in the tournament. There was a written rule about it. And we my dude. Are talking about what happened in the finals of said tournament.

[NOT THE BEES]

Take this as an example BHVR, stop it with the Esports.

Just.Stop.

[†Deicide†]

They should've never had a rule for the hatch. Period. The hatch stand off is THE MOST unbalanced thing about this game. They should've made it so the hatch doesn't exist.

[DragonFly]

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

This mechanic does not exist in the game. Simple.

But it exists in the tournament. There was a written rule about it. And we my dude. Are talking about what happened in the finals of said tournament.

I read the rules the moment the tournament was announced. Where does it mention the " close hatch " mechanic ?

[Sernior]

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

But it exists in the tournament. There was a written rule about it. And we my dude. Are talking about what happened in the finals of said tournament.

I read the rules the moment the tournament was announced. Where does it mention the " close hatch " mechanic ?

I already explained to you. It was a way to make you understand how the rule was supposed to work. I just used something you knew to make you understand something else.

I am sorry you did not understand. Really sorry.

Do you need also explanation about what an explanation is?

[†Deicide†]

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

But it exists in the tournament. There was a written rule about it. And we my dude. Are talking about what happened in the finals of said tournament.

I read the rules the moment the tournament was announced. Where does it mention the " close hatch " mechanic ?

I mean, don't you see that the rule mimics the closing the hatch mechanic? If killer find it first, he gets the win. Isn't as if he had shut it down? I think so yeah.

[DragonFly]

Mister Holdout님이 먼저 게시:

This whole tournament was a complete sham.

I couldn't believe it when I found out one of the commentators only had 74 freaking hours in the game!

Why are they letting rank 20s make the decisions?

But I went back and re watched what happened. They totally changed the rule at the last second. That commentator said "for it to be a hatch stand off, the hatch must be open". It never said that in their official rules. How could they make a ruling like that when their own rules aren't clear enough?

#JusticeForMarth

Go watch Space Esports first unofficial DBD Tournament. They spend most of the tournament in lobbies, waiting on staff who are afk, talking way too much about sex and drugs. It was the most unprofessional tournament I've seen in a long time. I don't know who is on staff at Space Esports, but it sounded like a handful of teenagers who didn't know what they were doing. The comments were cringey during the entire tournament. I was surprised BHVR chose Space Esports, and I had wondered if they had seen Space Esports previous DBD tournaments.

[DoomGuy043]

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

This mechanic does not exist in the game. Simple.

But it exists in the tournament. There was a written rule about it. And we my dude. Are talking about what happened in the finals of said tournament.

I know what happened in the finals. You lost the game against that Nurse because you thought that gen rushing without skills was enough to win. That is what your squad thinks to justify killers gameplay.

Nothing against you, just stating that you lost and you guys have had 2 more chances to win. Now you can cry a river, but if you were better you would have won in the two matches after we both know what happened.

[DragonFly]

Sernior님이 먼저 게시:

DragonFly님이 먼저 게시:

I read the rules the moment the tournament was announced. Where does it mention the " close hatch " mechanic ?

I already explained to you. It was a way to make you understand how the rule was supposed to work. I just used something you knew to make you understand something else.

I am sorry you did not understand. Really sorry.

Do you need also explanation about what an explanation is?

You can't just throw out your own interpretation. The rules do not talk about a mechanic that does not exist. It talks about a hatch stand-off ( which has always existed in this game ) .