Tru3ta1ent and Jendenise Drama in regards to McLean_BHVR's response

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Original suggestion from Jen: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqjl4n
Response from McLean: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqjo34

https://twitter.com/TrU3Ta1ent/with_replies
https://twitter.com/Jenownzz/with_replies

Tru is saying you would need Bloodlust otherwise some spots and 2 windows would become infinite, and disagrees with what Jen has been saying mainly on Bloodlust

Jen is saying Bloodlust is not needed when she catch survivors, Tru heavily disagrees with this

[ShipShrecked]

I like the idea of bloodlust. It kinda forces a clock in the game if you can use it right.
As a survivor it always has me thinking i need to either stun/throw a pallet or find a way to hide to curb that or my time is ticking.
As a killer it means as long as i dont lose those scratch marks or your face ill get you eventually.
Some maps need redesigned to avoid that almost infinites, some doesnt need touched at all.
The streamers are good(I only know of Tru3 and he can be an angry little troll if he getts rubbed wrong) but as the others said, the devs will do what they and the stats they gather say to change the game at the end of the day. Also this is steam forums, not even the DbD forums.

[Kaoru]

200 IQ původně napsal:

bloodlust is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, they need to rework maps but they are too lazy for that.

How would you rework the big main building like the "wrenched shop" in autohaven with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 2 windows cheese spots?

[ShipShrecked]

Kaoru původně napsal:

200 IQ původně napsal:

bloodlust is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, they need to rework maps but they are too lazy for that.

How would you rework the big main building like the "wrenched shop" in autohaven with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 2 windows cheese spots?

Take out the window by the door and just have a pallet there.
OR
Make some windows that only a killer can go through to cut out some of these spots and change the way they patrol

[yoink]

Kaoru původně napsal:

200 IQ původně napsal:

bloodlust is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, they need to rework maps but they are too lazy for that.

How would you rework the big main building like the "wrenched shop" in autohaven with these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 2 windows cheese spots?

Block one of them ? I am not a programmer but i think this can easily be redesigned. Or add obstacles in a way that make it hard to quick vault, or relocate the pallet near the windows...

There are many options.

[Mewsha]

I don't think your tl;dr is fair to Jen.

She's saying bloodlust should be toned down eventually.

Not next patch after this one.

She also states that map design needs to be changed to remove super safe areas, especially those with windows, as well as infinintes needing to be removed. She's right on the money with The Game too and it highlights just how bad they have gotten with map design. I hate that map as both the killer and survivor. Maps overall need to be more balanced. There shouldn't be one super safe area on a map.

[DankyDanky | Twitch]

Baby Ghoul původně napsal:

I don't think your tl;dr is fair to Jen.

She's saying bloodlust should be toned down eventually.

Not next patch after this one.

She also states that map design needs to be changed to remove super safe areas, especially those with windows, as well as infinintes needing to be removed. She's right on the money with The Game too and it highlights just how bad they have gotten with map design. I hate that map as both the killer and survivor. Maps overall need to be more balanced. There shouldn't be one super safe area on a map.

if we read the same post, he wants more killer nerfs

[Mewsha]

Low I.Q. Maxine původně napsal:

Baby Ghoul původně napsal:

I don't think your tl;dr is fair to Jen.

She's saying bloodlust should be toned down eventually.

Not next patch after this one.

She also states that map design needs to be changed to remove super safe areas, especially those with windows, as well as infinintes needing to be removed. She's right on the money with The Game too and it highlights just how bad they have gotten with map design. I hate that map as both the killer and survivor. Maps overall need to be more balanced. There shouldn't be one super safe area on a map.

if we read the same post, he wants more killer nerfs

You're seeing what you want to see.

[Maximy]

I honestly have never seen Jendenise play killer. Whenever I check her stream she always plays SWF. Tru3 has some good points even outside of this drama. He always plays solo survivors, whenever he plays killer he often gets full SWF team, I think his feedback should be more treasured then coming from someone who plays only survivors, on top of that mostly SWF. This game shouldn't be played with comms. When somebody uses this tactic, I have hard time following and accepting your point of view in a serious matter. I'm surprised how nobody mentioned gen-rush, which many,many people have been asking for in some sort of change like more main objectives.

Also a little off topic: I havent watched many of Jendenise streams, but whenever I check her streams she seem like one of those entitled survivors,at least that's the vibe I get whenever i'm there, anyone else gets the same feeling?

[Jaunty the Fool]

Anyone who uses voice chat is a cheater, whether or not the devs acknowledge it (toxic streamers are free advertising afterall) so thier opinions are not valid.

[ShipShrecked]

Taipan původně napsal:

Maximy původně napsal:

I honestly have never seen Jendenise play killer. Whenever I check her stream she always plays SWF. Tru3 has some good points even outside of this drama. He always plays solo survivors, whenever he plays killer he often gets full SWF team, I think his feedback should be more treasured then coming from someone who plays only survivors, on top of that mostly SWF. This game shouldn't be played with comms. When somebody uses this tactic, I have hard time following and accepting your point of view in a serious matter. I'm surprised how nobody mentioned gen-rush, which many,many people have been asking for in some sort of change like more main objectives.

Also a little off topic: I havent watched many of Jendenise streams, but whenever I check her streams she seem like one of those entitled survivors,at least that's the vibe I get whenever i'm there, anyone else gets the same feeling?

I ran into her cancerous swf team a number of times on the LA region and they would use every exploit they could find and then would all dc, one after the other if you started a mori. Entitled doesn't begin to describe her. These cancerous ♥♥♥♥♥ spread so much toxicity very early on in the game.

^ This is why when streamers opinions are mentioned in a discussion is usually gets wrote off.

[Flamember]

Jaunty the Fool původně napsal:

Anyone who uses voice chat is a cheater, whether or not the devs acknowledge it (toxic streamers are free advertising afterall) so thier opinions are not valid.

Toxic streamers?
Voice chat isn't cheating, there is a big difference.

[El Fuerte]

Flamember původně napsal:

Jaunty the Fool původně napsal:

Anyone who uses voice chat is a cheater, whether or not the devs acknowledge it (toxic streamers are free advertising afterall) so thier opinions are not valid.

Toxic streamers?
Voice chat isn't cheating, there is a big difference.

Let's get things cleared up here:

1- Voice coms between survivors is cheating in DbD, but not bannable. It gives you more than 4 aura perks for free (Bond, Empathy, Kindred, Deja Vu, Object of Obsession) without wasting a single perk slot. The game's balance is 100% not designed for that advantage.

2- Tru3Ta1ent does not use voice coms in DbD. He is always solo when playing survivor.

[광화문 freak]

I stopped watching Jen’s stream when I saw her spamming flashlight to BM the killer (you know that annoying clicky clicky sound) and also the teabag. However, she seems like she doesn’t do that lately. Maybe she finally realized it’s not fun for the killer to get looped and teabagged when the dodges became prevalent.

[DankyDanky | Twitch]

Baby Ghoul původně napsal:

Low I.Q. Maxine původně napsal:

if we read the same post, he wants more killer nerfs

You're seeing what you want to see.

soooo she didnt say nerf Nurse or Huntress or Bloodlust??? i was just seeing what i wanted to see???

[Terrorize Exercise]

Honestly who has a problem with bloodlust in 2018? As a survivor if they choose to bloodlust 3 me around a safe pallet they are idiots and just threw the game to catch one person. As a killer I never hit bloodlust 3, I may have some very very very rare games where my chase ends just as I hit bloodlust 2. Bloodlust hasn't been an issue since its first nerf after it was introduced.

Want to stop getting bloodlusted? Force the killer to break safe pallets.