Whoever designed Gideon Meat Plant...

[Ratking]

Give them a medal, its pretty much the only balanced map in the game.

1) No shack to run circles in nonstop

2) No double walls with windows in them right next to each other

3) Most pallets mind-gameable

4) Totems mostly always well hidden and not out in the open to be destroyed 30 seconds into a match

5) Did I mention running in circles isn't a thing

Seriously the devs need to just rework every other map to make them like this one.

Its not too cluttered together and not too much open space, its perfect. And the totem placement is what makes the best by a longshot. You can actually run hexes besides ruin for once.

I used all my meat plant tokens up sadly though, but I have to say, it was the best 4 games ever. Funnest builds actually worked for once.

[Soren]

"Number 4 will blow your mind!"

:p

(Well I was pallet looped on this map but I was a 103% Scratchy Myers so that didn't help)

[Spudsy]

and you can mess with survivors because your heartbeat goes through the floor. i do like this map to but its rarity isn't enough to offset the more common unbalaced maps, and the fun just dies.

[Ratking]

Originally posted by Soren:

"Number 4 will blow your mind!"

:p

(Well I was pallet looped on this map but I was a 103% Scratchy Myers so that didn't help)

Gotta run PWYF to get kills with those myers addons. It sucks but its the only way.

I decided to use the 4 ultra rares i never touched cause they looked so bad. Its actually a decent perk with him, you just can - not - miss or you are screwed.

[Bloodartist]

Gideon plant is pretty terrible. :(

I had my first nurse game in the meat plant and I couldnt get ANYTHING done. Not only is whispers basically useless since the map is so small, every single room has so much stuff you can hide behind so chasing with blinks is a nightmare. Every blink has a danger of not only going to the wrong floor, also accidentally going too far past the bloody walls so a wall separates me from the survivor. Good god, this is the worst yet.

Its possible I get better at the map over time, but the damn thing is also so rare I don't get much practice. There doesn't seem to be any offerings that give you the meat plant? I haven't seen any since launch. Like, literal zero in any of the bloodwebs.

[Moorish]

I don't think OP understands the meaning of balanced !!

[Ratking]

Originally posted by Bloodartist:

Gideon plant is pretty terrible. :(

I had my first nurse game in the meat plant and I couldnt get ANYTHING done. Not only is whispers basically useless since the map is so small, every single room has so much stuff you can hide behind so chasing with blinks is a nightmare. Every blink has a danger of not only going to the wrong floor, also accidentally going too far past the bloody walls so a wall separates me from the survivor. Good god, this is the worst yet.

Its possible I get better at the map over time, but the damn thing is also so rare I don't get much practice. There doesn't seem to be any offerings that give you the meat plant? I haven't seen any since launch. Like, literal zero in any of the bloodwebs.

There are offerings for it, its called a jigsaw piece i believe.

The nurse kind of sucks now Imo because of how small her lunge is. Removing her auto-aim wasn't much of a buff.

Like in that week i played her where she had that double stun, her lunge was actually the normal range.

Because of how good it was, i was able to get 2-4k every game with little practice on her, even with the double stun.

It just didn't matter because i didn't have to teleport literally right on top of someone to hit him.

That and the nurse can actually be 360'd now because of lack of auto-aim.

I'm a rank 1 killer so the survivors juke it fairly well unfortunately.

You just wait for the nurse to blink and run in a circle around where you think she will land, and itll miss most the time.

Sadly that's all the change did once they removed her long-lunge. Just made her vulnerable to 360's. Atleast from my perspective and how i played her anyway.

[Soren]

Originally posted by Super Mario:

Originally posted by Soren:

"Number 4 will blow your mind!"

:p

(Well I was pallet looped on this map but I was a 103% Scratchy Myers so that didn't help)

Gotta run PWYF to get kills with those myers addons. It sucks but its the only way.

I decided to use the 4 ultra rares i never touched cause they looked so bad. Its actually a decent perk with him, you just can - not - miss or you are screwed.

Well it was a Kill your Friend with not_Queen, so I tried a thematic build based around the fear of the unknown and twists: M&A, The Third Seal, Make your Choice, Remember Me. I was kinda sad when I realized she was the only one playing for fun while the others were playing like generic rank 1 survivors - pallet looping, taunting, hook rushing and such.

I did the mistake to bring a Jewelry Boxe instead of a Boyfriend's Memo because I wanted the "control" aspect of knowing where everybody was. I'll probably run Vanity Mirror next time, having not lunge is really a pain in the ass...

[Versusia]

Doctor + The Game, that's the stuff.

[oopsibwokeit]

You know, I completely missed the fact the shack doesnt spawn on his map. Same with the Treatment Theatre.

[Pure Hostility]

The generic doc build on gideon is... Disgusting.

Map isn't really that balanced per say, however it is probably the first map is in the killer's favor, besides release version of shelter woods.

However not for all killers... Trapper has hard time on it, as there aren't really any places to put traps on, besides obvious pallet spots and few drops, where surv will jump down onto. These spots are so obvious, that most of your traps will be disarmed in no time.

[Versusia]

Originally posted by Pure Hostility:

The generic doc build on gideon is... Disgusting.

Map isn't really that balanced per say, however it is probably the first map is in the killer's favor, besides release version of shelter woods.

However not for all killers... Trapper has hard time on it, as there aren't really any places to put traps on, besides obvious pallet spots and few drops, where surv will jump down onto. These spots are so obvious, that most of your traps will be disarmed in no time.

I remember how I once sent an SWF crew to the Game. Oof, the post chat was a warzone.

[Ratking]

Originally posted by Soren:

Originally posted by Super Mario:

Gotta run PWYF to get kills with those myers addons. It sucks but its the only way.

I decided to use the 4 ultra rares i never touched cause they looked so bad. Its actually a decent perk with him, you just can - not - miss or you are screwed.

Well it was a Kill your Friend with not_Queen, so I tried a thematic build based around the fear of the unknown and twists: M&A, The Third Seal, Make your Choice, Remember Me. I was kinda sad when I realized she was the only one playing for fun while the others were playing like generic rank 1 survivors - pallet looping, taunting, hook rushing and such.

I did the mistake to bring a Jewelry Boxe instead of a Boyfriend's Memo because I wanted the "control" aspect of knowing where everybody was. I'll probably run Vanity Mirror next time, having not lunge is really a pain in the ass...

The level 2 myers addon is worse than the 1. 16 meters is not good for ESP if you have to stalk for it, trust me.

You can make the 1 work but you need that PWYF perk and NOED. Make sure you have 3 stacks of PWYF once the last gen pops. With 32m wallhacks and NOED/PWYF stacks, you will be an absolute monster.

[oopsibwokeit]

Originally posted by Super Mario:

Originally posted by Soren:

Well it was a Kill your Friend with not_Queen, so I tried a thematic build based around the fear of the unknown and twists: M&A, The Third Seal, Make your Choice, Remember Me. I was kinda sad when I realized she was the only one playing for fun while the others were playing like generic rank 1 survivors - pallet looping, taunting, hook rushing and such.

I did the mistake to bring a Jewelry Boxe instead of a Boyfriend's Memo because I wanted the "control" aspect of knowing where everybody was. I'll probably run Vanity Mirror next time, having not lunge is really a pain in the ass...

The level 2 myers addon is worse than the 1. 16 meters is not good for ESP if you have to stalk for it, trust me.

You can make the 1 work but you need that PWYF perk and NOED. Make sure you have 3 stacks of PWYF once the last gen pops. With 32m wallhacks and NOED/PWYF stacks, you will be an absolute monster.

I got a 4k using Devour Hope and Scratched Mirror MM. The last few kills were when people doing a gen finished it and I was waiting on the other side of the door that opened. It was great.

[Bloodartist]

Originally posted by Super Mario:

Sadly that's all the change did once they removed her long-lunge. Just made her vulnerable to 360's. Atleast from my perspective and how i played her anyway.

I agree on this. The one bad thing about the nurse changes is that her lunge sucks now. Blinks have to be more accurate and basically predict the 360 from the survivor. I can land basically right next to a survivor and survivor can still outrange me.

The auto-aim removal... I realize now the difference. Previously I didn't even believe there was an auto-aim. Still, the 360 is something that I can work around. The lack of lunge, not so much. Its that she basically slows down when striking thats the problematic part, the survivor sprints out of range before my attack goes through. I feel that I have to predict where survivor goes and land in front of them to get a hit.

[Cantrell]

It is not a balanced map. It is just heavily killer sided...