What happens with Lerys memorial Institute?

[Aki]

It's impossible to survive there except the killer is completely retarded... Just doors and windows with a door 1 meter away... Maybe 3 Pallets and those 3 pallets are so easy to outplay. Not "outplayable but good" I mean "easy outplayable and bs"
Yea I know the killer mains like it if theres a map without everything just the survivors with reduced running speed by 50% with 1 hook stage. Those can now leave and masturbate.

What the ♥♥♥♥ man?

[l0ader]

I had my problems my with that map at begin.
But after playing it a lot, it still gives a weird but better feeling than before.

You can hide epicly, you have tons of windows to use but gens are hidden and hex totems are worst.

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by ╳ _⎛⎝.Akuma.⎠⎞_╳:

Originally posted by DiscoDave:

"I can't loop the killer anymore, better complain on forum how broken this is"

"i can camp and tunnel more effective so I dont need to complain how op survivors are"

"I'm bad at the game so I accuse all killer mains of camping and tunnelling even though it's a smart tactical way to play the game."

On topic: rofl lmao Lery's is one of the most survivor-sided maps in the game second only to Haddonfield. There are quite a few pallets in places the killer can't walk around and the map is infamous for being a window looping simulator.
You can maybe have trouble on it if it's Myers or Doctor but literally every other killer is meh on Lery's. Hillbilly and Huntress ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cry on this map and it's very easy to stealth around a Nurse when there are walls everywhere. The 3 best killers in the game are essentially worthless on Lery's and yeah sure Trapper and Hag are god tier but who the ♥♥♥♥ plays Trapper or Hag nowadays?

I have to be honest I dislike Lery's too but it's purely do to claustrophobic reasons as well as the occasional incredibly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ totem spawns. If the killer isn't running Ruin however I enjoy a fairly easy match unless I have idiot allies who sprint everywhere and can't do skill checks.
By the way pro tip: don't sprint everywhere and git gud and skill checks.

[yamidamian]

In my own experience, it’s pretty easy to survive on. While it doesn’t have many pallets, most of the ones it has are very safe (the main exceptions being the ones in the middle room). In addition, it’s room-and-hall design means it’s easy to hide in little side alcoves and rooms where the killer won’t look on their own.

[Spudsy]

Originally posted by Apocrypha:

Less need to camp and tunnel if it doesn't take 5 years for survivors to run out of looping spots.

I only get campy if survivors decide to do it long enough for the game to be pretty much decided.

i like how they ignored this post lol.. the truth is to hard to argue it seems....

[Ratking]

Originally posted by Chotgor "Chogi" Unen:

Originally posted by ╳ _⎛⎝.Akuma.⎠⎞_╳:

"i can camp and tunnel more effective so I dont need to complain how op survivors are"

"I'm bad at the game so I accuse all killer mains of camping and tunnelling even though it's a smart tactical way to play the game."

On topic: rofl lmao Lery's is one of the most survivor-sided maps in the game second only to Haddonfield. There are quite a few pallets in places the killer can't walk around and the map is infamous for being a window looping simulator.
You can maybe have trouble on it if it's Myers or Doctor but literally every other killer is meh on Lery's. Hillbilly and Huntress ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cry on this map and it's very easy to stealth around a Nurse when there are walls everywhere. The 3 best killers in the game are essentially worthless on Lery's and yeah sure Trapper and Hag are god tier but who the ♥♥♥♥ plays Trapper or Hag nowadays?

I have to be honest I dislike Lery's too but it's purely do to claustrophobic reasons as well as the occasional incredibly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ totem spawns. If the killer isn't running Ruin however I enjoy a fairly easy match unless I have idiot allies who sprint everywhere and can't do skill checks.
By the way pro tip: don't sprint everywhere and git gud and skill checks.

1 thing, trapper is actually horrible on lery's in rank 1 games. No grass spots anywhere and all traps get triggered very fast by survivors. I decided to play trapper a little while ago and got that map, was absolute hell because of the lack of grass to lay traps in.

[To bonitinho]

i loved this map, i really loved. But today? Today i hate, only have door -.- miss windows. I get a hilliby that was so easy to him, he just need come close and use his power and in 5 rooms i havent find 1 window! just doors.

[yoink]

This map is actually one of the best maps to juke the killer and lose him if you wish. With the amounts of vaults and corners, You can easily lose LoS. I would personally prefer this map over macmillan's maps anytime :D What i hate most about it is actually finding generators and totems (Pain) :D

And actually the best two killers (Nurse and billy) would get destroyed on this map; Given that survivors don't ♥♥♥♥ up badly

[Konfusion with a K]

Originally posted by ╳ _⎛⎝.Akuma.⎠⎞_╳:

It's impossible to survive there except the killer is completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... Just doors and windows with a door 1 meter away... Maybe 3 Pallets and those 3 pallets are so easy to outplay. Not "outplayable but good" I mean "easy outplayable and bs"
Yea I know the killer mains like it if theres a map without everything just the survivors with reduced running speed by 50% with 1 hook stage. Those can now leave and masturbate.

What the ♥♥♥♥ man?

Found the Survivor Main.

[Artick]

Originally posted by K L A U S:

i loved this map, i really loved. But today? Today i hate, only have door -.- miss windows. I get a hilliby that was so easy to him, he just need come close and use his power and in 5 rooms i havent find 1 window! just doors.

[Midnight Green Hero]

To everyone saying how "survivor-sided" this map is: It is literally the 2nd map with the highest death rate. It is 2nd only to the new map, but that one was just released when the stats came out so it's possible that Lery's could be the WORST survivor map after everyone has learned to play The Game.

[Sniperwampa1]

Originally posted by Professorhunter25:

Originally posted by Artick:

In killer mains mind EVERYTHING is survivor sided. I'm sick of this.

But it is. How you ever tried to play killer on this map?

I do quite well as hag and trapper. Got at least 3 matches ending up with a 4 man DH. Last I played her nurse is rough in this map, Doc is ok. I also do well as a survivor on this map.

[SamEstine]

Originally posted by Midnight Green Hero:

To everyone saying how "survivor-sided" this map is: It is literally the 2nd map with the highest death rate. It is 2nd only to the new map, but that one was just released when the stats came out so it's possible that Lery's could be the WORST survivor map after everyone has learned to play The Game.

Does that death toll take into consideration any gameplay in between? Ranks? SWF / Solo? No, just a pointless stat that no one with half a brain in data analysis will accept.

[Sumnox]

Originally posted by ╳ _⎛⎝.Akuma.⎠⎞_╳:

Originally posted by Professorhunter25:

Heard of stealth?

if I play this map I only have tunneling and hardcore camping killers and if they find you what's not really hard you just run on open field...Theres a window? oh cool theres a door 2 meters away. Oh you found pallet? yea this one is bs you should leave or die faster. Yea there are 2-3 good pallets but if you ever played you know how the others will use them.

So basically you don't like how it's not full of pseudo-infinites with a bunch of safe pallets and windows to be able to keep a killer running around crap for 10 full minutes?

Damn, I feel your pain. It must be so difficult.

[Dezzmont]

Originally posted by Artick:

Originally posted by Professorhunter25:

And this map is so survivor sided.

In killer mains mind EVERYTHING is survivor sided. I'm sick of this.

While there is liberal salt flowing around it is pretty clear that Institute, Asylumn, Haddonfield, Autohaven, and Swamp have really severe problems on some/all of their maps.

Institute had issues where it was meant to be a hide and seek map, but because it had so many pallets that were safe pallets as well as tons of windows chases were insanely strong there.

Asylumn is a small map which nominally makes it killer sided but the central building is an eternal source of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and despite being small you almost have to circumnavigate it as a killer, it lacking a 'center' that you can play to screws killers really hard. The central building literally has pallet spawns that you can't walk around and must break, its a bit insane.

Haddonfield has literal infinites.

Autohaven is... I hope I shouldn't explain why Autohaven Junglegyms and Pallet Cities are a problem.

Swamp is just too damn big, like its comically big for a map with so much visual clutter to allow hiding. I know people who literally DC when it boots up.

I think its also fair to say that Estates are probably the most balanced maps, save for Shelter Woods which is rough of survivors, and that Farms lean slightly towardsk killer.

Preschool has its own issues but unlike Asylumn it actually is like... small in a way that matters so it feels like a wash when fatshaming infinites aren't in play.

But like... map balance is a thing because so much of the game is defined by hiding spots and circumnavigating obstacles for the killer. I don't understand how you could think a map that has multiple windows in a row you have to go through to swiftly enter or exit a room, as well as the map being slightly on the larger side, isn't going to result in it being a survivor sided map when your at higher ranks, because it has so many tools for the survivors to use.

Its deathrate comes from the fact that despite it being possibly the most survivor sided map, it is survivor sided because there are really clutch window paths which other maps lack, and because its really easy to LOS break, neither of these tools being something you learn just pallet looping. Like if you actually know how to play DBD you want to end up on Institute, which is why so many "Lets bully killer highlight reels" take place on it because there are pseudo infinites on the map.

Like when I am in a good month to be a high rank survivor due to lots of free time, rolling deep at maybe rank 5? That is the map I *want to be on* more than any other besides possibly swamp because I can borderline shout when I see the killer "Oh your not a nurse? Your not killing me! Byyeeeee! Laaaater!"

[COUNT FREAKULA]

Originally posted by Midnight Green Hero:

To everyone saying how "survivor-sided" this map is: It is literally the 2nd map with the highest death rate. It is 2nd only to the new map, but that one was just released when the stats came out so it's possible that Lery's could be the WORST survivor map after everyone has learned to play The Game.

It has a high death rate due to bad players getting lost, it has so many places to waste time and break LOS it's not even funny.