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Axoltol_K1ng Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:08am
Question: What is tunneling?
I hear people ♥♥♥♥♥ about it but I don't know what it is.
Last edited by Axoltol_K1ng; Mar 27, 2018 @ 11:08am
Originally posted by Dezzmont:
Tunneling is the killer making a focused attempt to kill a specific player, rather than attacking survivors at random.

Complaining about tunneling is a tactic survivor mains use to get killer players to play objectively worse, or are made by survivors who don't understand the game's mechanics at all.

The *main mechanic* killers have to win the game is to tactically eliminate players in an efficient order. That is how they play, that is what they do. Playing to not do that is like playing chess with the goal of not taking any pieces before preforming a checkmate, there is no honor in it, it is just dumb.

The game mechanics deliberately encourage killers to be cruel to weak survivor players. Survivors who get rescued from a bad situation, for example, are in a known location with a debuff that makes them easier to down, and easier to find. That isn't accidental, a big part of the game's mechanics are that once a killer gets on you and you get hit its dramatically harder to get away.

Likewise, the fact that you were rescued means its more likely a rescue will come again, delaying gen reair, the ONLY thing you care about in terms of a side goal, again, and potentially getting you another survivor down or effectively incapacitated in a hook standoff if you get that weakened easy to find survivor back on the hook.

It is a comically inevitable part of the game's design, and it is completely fair because your actions before getting targeted in the first place (being easy to find, easy to stick to in a chase, and poor at extending a chase) are what make tunneling viable.

Good survivors don't get tunneled that often because they make damn sure they aren't the first target hit and down without giving the killer a long chase that forces them to play less conservatively, if you go down at gen 5 or 4 you pretty objectively deserve to die because it either means you went down first or went down with a hook's length of time to fix gens and just dediced not to put pressure on the killer. Good survivors understand how the killer thinks, and thus good survivors can exploit that thinking and not fall for camping or tunneling strategies.

It is a testimant to how broken the rank system is that there are rank 1 survivors who have no idea how the killer plays at all and make these complaints as if they are remotely rational requests of the killer, things they could even start to do without totally sabotaging the entire game experience.

It isn't even like complaining about campers (which is also silly and means you fundementally don't understand the game's mechanics) because at least camping is sometimes the wrong choice and isn't totally and completely necessary. Complaining about tunneling is complaining the killer isn't deliberately trying to spread damage out in an efficient and self harmful way so that you get free escapes in chases becuase your not good enough to escape the killer in the first place.
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Evil Fluffy Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by Miau Miau:
i answer what is tunneling :
you know when playing league of legends and you attack a champion and he loses half HitPoints and then you also try to get rid of his other half hitpoints ? thats tunneling.

in cs:go its when you attack someone and hit his head and if he didnt die you just keep shooting until he dies. thats tunneling .

understood? very unfair. instead of letting the 50% life league champion leave and have another chance you jsut finish them.

in Beat em Up terms it would be a combo that would end you opponents life. you dotn do that ! you just stop the combo to give the opponent a good chance to beatyou.
You are acting like tunneling in DbD has 0 counter (and lol shooting a person in csgo until dead is tunneling)
Leon Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Miau Miau:
i answer what is tunneling :
you know when playing league of legends and you attack a champion and he loses half HitPoints and then you also try to get rid of his other half hitpoints ? thats tunneling.

in cs:go its when you attack someone and hit his head and if he didnt die you just keep shooting until he dies. thats tunneling .

understood? very unfair. instead of letting the 50% life league champion leave and have another chance you jsut finish them.

in Beat em Up terms it would be a combo that would end you opponents life. you dotn do that ! you just stop the combo to give the opponent a good chance to beatyou.

let me correct you here, in league that champion can be an adc and can literally become from 50% to 100% hp from leeching hp off you or minions near depending how hardcore the situation is.
Ricecracker (Banned) Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Evil Fluffy:
Originally posted by Miau Miau:
i answer what is tunneling :
you know when playing league of legends and you attack a champion and he loses half HitPoints and then you also try to get rid of his other half hitpoints ? thats tunneling.

in cs:go its when you attack someone and hit his head and if he didnt die you just keep shooting until he dies. thats tunneling .

understood? very unfair. instead of letting the 50% life league champion leave and have another chance you jsut finish them.

in Beat em Up terms it would be a combo that would end you opponents life. you dotn do that ! you just stop the combo to give the opponent a good chance to beatyou.
You are acting like tunneling in DbD has 0 counter (and lol shooting a person in csgo until dead is tunneling)
you dont see it? the sarcasm? hmm . :mugman:
Colonel Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:53pm 
Tunneling is when your overweight workmate bends down and you see his black hole
Simulation Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:57pm 
People here seem to not get what the main complaint about tunneling is, if a moron survivor decides to rescue within TR and the killer completely ignores him and downs the injured survivors aka piñata effect. Both sides taking advantage of the situation rather then tackle the asshat who attempt the rescue in the first place, the hook survivor doesn’t have a say in this scenario and you should be salty about it. (Better off remaining in the hook imo)
Last edited by Simulation; Mar 27, 2018 @ 6:19pm
Evil Fluffy Mar 27, 2018 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Miau Miau:
Originally posted by Evil Fluffy:
You are acting like tunneling in DbD has 0 counter (and lol shooting a person in csgo until dead is tunneling)
you dont see it? the sarcasm? hmm . :mugman:
Sarcasm doesn’t translate via text and I’ve grown use to idiotic comments so I’m just assuming it’s not sarcasm.
Mr. K Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:00pm 
According to the survivor handbook for killers. Chasing a survivor for more than 10 seconds is consider tunneling.
Leon Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by Mr. K:
According to the survivor handbook for killers. Chasing a survivor for more than 10 seconds is consider tunneling.

you mean the SWF survivor handbook, because there is another toxic-free book for us stealthy survivors.
Skunk (Banned) Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:03pm 
Because this entire game is designed around the killer being intentionally stupid in order to give survivors a "good time".

The killer must be the most altruistic person in the lobby, lest he be labled a camper or tunneler.
Mr. K Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Leon:
Originally posted by Mr. K:
According to the survivor handbook for killers. Chasing a survivor for more than 10 seconds is consider tunneling.

you mean the SWF survivor handbook, because there is another toxic-free book for us stealthy survivors.
The stealthy survivors handbook is controversial due to it's lack of tbagging and looping philosophies.
Last edited by Mr. K; Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:05pm
Ricecracker (Banned) Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by Evil Fluffy:
Originally posted by Miau Miau:
you dont see it? the sarcasm? hmm . :mugman:
Sarcasm doesn’t translate via text and I’ve grown use to idiotic comments so I’m just assuming it’s not sarcasm.
fair enough
pauloandrade224 (Banned) Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by Leon:
Originally posted by Mr. K:
According to the survivor handbook for killers. Chasing a survivor for more than 10 seconds is consider tunneling.

you mean the SWF survivor handbook, because there is another toxic-free book for us stealthy survivors.
Yeah thats right .
pauloandrade224 (Banned) Mar 27, 2018 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Mr. K:
Originally posted by Leon:

you mean the SWF survivor handbook, because there is another toxic-free book for us stealthy survivors.
The stealthy survivors handbook is controversial due to it's lack of tbagging and looping philosophies.
i know right.
it has to be toxic otherwise its not survivors. its victims.
DBDPLAYER2326 Mar 27, 2018 @ 2:45pm 
Tunneling = chasing. It's as dumb as the term Gen Rush.
Dezzmont Mar 27, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
They aren't dumb terms. They should be thought of as neutral terms, like camping, in that they described a methidology.

Genrushing is a useful term to think about because it helps survivor players understand their own goals, "we are going to genrush" means focusing heavily on doing gens crazy fast to keep pressure on the killer which makes everything easier for the survivors, and when you have that mentality it naturally counters tunneling and camping because it denies the killer any time advantage.

Likewise, tunneling is the efficient removal of a survivor. When thought of in those terms it helps you remain focused on what is important, because the emphasis is on efficiency. If your chasing one survivor endlessly and not actually removing them efficiently, because your letting them 'take you for a run' through the entire map rather than removing nearby pallets and then returning to defend gens if the enemy is genrushing, your not actually employing a tunnel based strategy correctly.

These game theory terms (spam, camping, turtling, rushing, ect) exist for a reason, and a good one, they help you figure out what is going on in a game and what to do. They only become 'stupid' when they tranform from mental tools you use to come up with a personal strategy and instead try to use them as bludgeons to claim that players are being 'unsportsmanlike' for playing the game, which is *literally* the origin of the term scrub: Bad players who pick up high end play terminology and when they do poorly use those terms to attack others rather than improve themselves.
Last edited by Dezzmont; Mar 27, 2018 @ 5:37pm
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