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Burgundy Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:04pm
The Auric Cell / Cosmetic Store Problem
I understand developers need money to continue their work but this is just for the sake of analogy and pondering.

League of legends - Free - average skin cost 975 rp (Less than $10 in the U.S)

Dead by Daylight - $79.88 + tax for the game and all dlc so more likely $85 - Average Skin Cost 1080 AC (about $9.90)

That's a lot.

You can also earn any league skin for free.
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Echo Nine Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:10pm 
You can also earn killers for free, survivors for free, 80% of skins for free too. You can buy the base game and no DLC what so ever and still play really really well. The nurse and huntress is free, bill is free, meta perks are easy to pick up from the shrine which if they don't appear then buy that survivor on the store (excluding licensed killers/survivors).

The store is fine, you can get almost everything for free with putting time into it. Don't make it seem like league is fair with their price as they have skins that are almost recolours for 10 bucks.
Last edited by Echo Nine; Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:10pm
Urist Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:
I understand developers need money to continue their work but this is just for the sake of analogy and pondering.

League of legends - Free - average skin cost 975 rp (Less than $10 in the U.S)

Dead by Daylight - $79.88 + tax for the game and all dlc so more likely $85 - Average Skin Cost 1080 AC (about $9.90)

That's a lot.

You can also earn any league skin for free.
Thats what you get when ur poor.
Burgundy Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by Echo Nine:
You can also earn killers for free, survivors for free, 80% of skins for free too. You can buy the base game and no DLC what so ever and still play really really well. The nurse and huntress is free, bill is free, meta perks are easy to pick up from the shrine which if they don't appear then buy that survivor on the store (excluding licensed killers/survivors).

The store is fine, you can get almost everything for free with putting time into it. Don't make it seem like league is fair with their price as they have skins that are almost recolours for 10 bucks.

Yes. As of 8 hours ago you can now earn all the dlc in DBD for free. Yay for the new players.
Dawind Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:
Originally posted by Echo Nine:
You can also earn killers for free, survivors for free, 80% of skins for free too. You can buy the base game and no DLC what so ever and still play really really well. The nurse and huntress is free, bill is free, meta perks are easy to pick up from the shrine which if they don't appear then buy that survivor on the store (excluding licensed killers/survivors).

The store is fine, you can get almost everything for free with putting time into it. Don't make it seem like league is fair with their price as they have skins that are almost recolours for 10 bucks.

Yes. As of 8 hours ago you can now earn all the dlc in DBD for free. Yay for the new players.

except pig, michael myers, freddy, leatherface and their respective survivors(cus those are licensed)
Last edited by Dawind; Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:14pm
Echo Nine Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by DaWind:
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:

Yes. As of 8 hours ago you can now earn all the dlc in DBD for free. Yay for the new players.

except pig, michael myers, freddy, leatherface and their respective survivors(cus those are licensed)
Exactly, all of which are mid to worst killer in the game tier. All of the base killers + free DLC killers are easily the best killers in the game (excluding wraith). You can also earn the clown for free + the hag and doctor.
Urist Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Echo Nine:
Originally posted by DaWind:

except pig, michael myers, freddy, leatherface and their respective survivors(cus those are licensed)
Exactly, all of which are mid to worst killer in the game tier. All of the base killers + free DLC killers are easily the best killers in the game (excluding wraith). You can also earn the clown for free + the hag and doctor.
*Cough* you have the toptiers in the base game and its maybe the best part if the best killer were from a dlc people would call this game P2W.
you can also buy Freddy if you want to be bullied.
Mewsha Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:19pm 
Saying you can earn skins for free in League of Legends is incredibly misleading.

I've been playing League of Legends for years, and the hextech loot system is one of the worst things to ever happen to that game.

I assume you're referring to that though since you can occassional earn skins through those loot boxes.

There's a caveat though.

You need to first earn the loot box, and when you unlock it you don't get to pick which skin you get. It is RNG, you can even get a skin you already own. If you do get a skin you like then you need orange essence in order to unlock it permanently. You can disenchant those cosmetic items for orange essence if you don't like them, or you can take 3 skin shards and reroll them into a random skin permanent.

That's assuming the loot box you unlocked gave you a skin shard and not a ward shard or a champion shard.

Quite misleading, wouldn't you say?

On top of that let's look at how you optain RP. $10 of RP gets you 1380, which is a smidge above the cost of higher quality skins. Let's say you purchase a 975 RP skin though. That only leaves you with 405 RP which won't get you anything else except a chroma or an icon or something like that.
Echo Nine Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:
Saying you can earn skins for free in League of Legends is incredibly misleading.

I've been playing League of Legends for years, and the hextech loot system is one of the worst things to ever happen to that game.

Exactly, people honestly just want to pull apart DBD for any reason. I am 100% on board the 'balance the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game' train however people need to take a step back and realise the store is MOSTLY FREE. ♥♥♥♥ me people MOBAs do shops worse than DBD does.
Burgundy Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:
Saying you can earn skins for free in League of Legends is incredibly misleading.

I've been playing League of Legends for years, and the hextech loot system is one of the worst things to ever happen to that game.

I assume you're referring to that though since you can occassional earn skins through those loot boxes.

There's a caveat though.

You need to first earn the loot box, and when you unlock it you don't get to pick which skin you get. It is RNG, you can even get a skin you already own. If you do get a skin you like then you need orange essence in order to unlock it permanently. You can disenchant those cosmetic items for orange essence if you don't like them, or you can take 3 skin shards and reroll them into a random skin permanent.

That's assuming the loot box you unlocked gave you a skin shard and not a ward shard or a champion shard.

Quite misleading, wouldn't you say?

On top of that let's look at how you optain RP. $10 of RP gets you 1380, which is a smidge above the cost of higher quality skins. Let's say you purchase a 975 RP skin though. That only leaves you with 405 RP which won't get you anything else except a chroma or an icon or something like that.

Saying it is possible to earn skins in League for free is misleading? Did i lie? You can.
Mewsha Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by Echo Nine:
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:
Saying you can earn skins for free in League of Legends is incredibly misleading.

I've been playing League of Legends for years, and the hextech loot system is one of the worst things to ever happen to that game.

Exactly, people honestly just want to pull apart DBD for any reason. I am 100% on board the 'balance the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game' train however people need to take a step back and realise the store is MOSTLY FREE. ♥♥♥♥ me people MOBAs do shops worse than DBD does.

The reason league has a system set up like that is to entice users to buy their loot box crap. It is quite smart from a marketing perspective, but evil from a gaming perspective.

Like OP's post though it is far from that straightforward.
Mewsha Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:
Saying you can earn skins for free in League of Legends is incredibly misleading.

I've been playing League of Legends for years, and the hextech loot system is one of the worst things to ever happen to that game.

I assume you're referring to that though since you can occassional earn skins through those loot boxes.

There's a caveat though.

You need to first earn the loot box, and when you unlock it you don't get to pick which skin you get. It is RNG, you can even get a skin you already own. If you do get a skin you like then you need orange essence in order to unlock it permanently. You can disenchant those cosmetic items for orange essence if you don't like them, or you can take 3 skin shards and reroll them into a random skin permanent.

That's assuming the loot box you unlocked gave you a skin shard and not a ward shard or a champion shard.

Quite misleading, wouldn't you say?

On top of that let's look at how you optain RP. $10 of RP gets you 1380, which is a smidge above the cost of higher quality skins. Let's say you purchase a 975 RP skin though. That only leaves you with 405 RP which won't get you anything else except a chroma or an icon or something like that.

Saying it is possible to earn skins in League for free is misleading? Did i lie? You can.

mis·lead
misˈlēd/Submit
verb
cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something.

That's exactly what you just did.
Burgundy Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:

Saying it is possible to earn skins in League for free is misleading? Did i lie? You can.

mis·lead
misˈlēd/Submit
verb
cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something.

That's exactly what you just did.

"to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something."

"You can earn league skins for free"

What the actual system is: earning league skins for free but you can't pick which one

What i said: "You can earn league skins for free"

Yeah...Misleading.
Mewsha Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:

mis·lead
misˈlēd/Submit
verb
cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something.

That's exactly what you just did.

"to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something."

"You can earn league skins for free"

What the actual system is: earning league skins for free but you can't pick which one

What i said: "You can earn league skins for free"

Yeah...Misleading.

Very.

You can earn a random skin shard for free through loot boxes, which

A.) Do not guarantee you'll get the skin you want or you could get a duplicate.
B.) You may not even unlock a skin. You could get a ward shard or worse.
C.) You have to unlock the item with orange essence which requires you to spend or disenchant more cosmetic shards. Or you can use 3 skin shards to unlock a random skin permanent.

The reason they offer the loot boxes is not out of the kindness of their hearts. It is because they want you to buy into their BS loot box system.
Last edited by Mewsha; Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:36pm
Yoghurt shot (Banned) Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:38pm 
Its just a way to support devs. Youre good with standard items, man.
Burgundy Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by Baby Ghoul:
Originally posted by Shadowchao121:

"to have a wrong idea or impression about someone or something."

"You can earn league skins for free"

What the actual system is: earning league skins for free but you can't pick which one

What i said: "You can earn league skins for free"

Yeah...Misleading.

Very.

You can earn a random skin shard for free through loot boxes, which

A.) Do not guarantee you'll get the skin you want or you could get a duplicate.
B.) You may not even unlock a skin. You could get a ward shard or worse.
C.) You have to unlock the item with orange essence which requires you to spend or disenchant more cosmetic shards. Or you can use 3 skin shards to unlock a random skin permanent.

The reason they offer the loot boxes is not out of the kindness of their hearts. It is because they want you to buy into their BS loot box system.

What i said is not misleading at all. Regardless of the explaination you CAN earn league skins for free with no cost to the consumer. Hence why i earned scorched earth xerath for ZERO dollars.

I didn't feel like explaining the Hextech store system but what i said still stands as true.
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