And why Legion got nerfed?

[tCrowD]

Is he OP or what?

[Red Luster YT]

No, he's broken, but instead of fixing him so he's no longer a problem they instead nerf him into having no viability.
Because behavoir takes FOREVER to nerf survivors yet nerf killers at a drop of a hat.

[Reindin]

He is being gutted despite the fact that they said they learned their lesson with Freddy.

He had an average kill rate but now that's going to drop heavily.

[Mewsha]

We've known since December that he was broken, had zero counterplay, and people could abuse game mechanics to their advantage. In all honestly he should have been disabled and reworking him should have been a priority. A good chunk of players were picking him to be vindictive.

They could have used all this time to fix him instead of nerfing him 5 months later. So many people have spoken about why he is problematic in depth.

Legion wasn't oppressive. He's not going to get many 4Ks. That isn't his problem.

He was miserable to play against for the survivor he chooses to chase. Playing Legion optimally isn't going around and hitting as many survivors as you can, it is tunneling, but unlike every other killer, there's nothing you can do if he tunnels you. There's also zero skill or thinking involved with that playstyle for him because of his kit and chase mechanics. It isn't dependent on you or him. He'll just get you down.

The other survivors would be bored, trying to gen rush, hoping that the chosen one doesn't DC out of frustration or suicide on hook. Just overall an unfun match. That's what people mean by broken and that's different than OP.

[Schorl Tourmaline]

Survivor mains don't like using stealth, so they get caught and resort to looping. Legion counters looping, so this is a dumb idea. There was one exploit to him, but to be honest there was ways to fight legion (despite survs constantly calling "no counterplay!"). It just involves things that people who have mastered looping find dull. Honestly, I sometimes feel like this game is 75% Ochido fanboys. I know that's not the case, but all the whining about a killer who counters their only "skill" is just so annoying. Once Legion gets nerfed, they will go back to whining about the nurse.

[Prydain]

Broken primarily due to 2 reasons. 1 was the "moonwalking exploit" where they could just trick the game into thinking they aren't chasing you so the deep wound timer ticks down and your choices were either stop and mend plus get hit or go down due to deep wound. 2nd is how Legion WILL eventually get a survivor if they solely focus on downing them due to deep wound & feral frenzy.

Legions who don't abuse either of those make for a more semi fun match but the majority of survivors find them boring to go against due to the mend mechanic. Throw in the Franks mixtape + Cold dirt combo and you got even more salt flung at Legions. They really only needed to fix the major bugs with them so people couldn't exploit for easy downs and then maybe tweak some of the addons a bit. Instead they basically gutted the ability into nothing more then an easy first hit it sounds like, then they become a basic M1 killer.

Granted at this point I'm just waiting to see how they perform in the PTB, but it honestly sounds like they are being turned into an even more boring M1 killer that I'm sure 90% of survivors will be okay with.

[Heru Ra Ha]

RedLusterArk eredeti hozzászólása:

No, he's broken, but instead of fixing him so he's no longer a problem they instead nerf him into having no viability.
Because behavoir takes FOREVER to nerf survivors yet nerf killers at a drop of a hat.

LoL

Take a look at nurse or billy, sorry you are spreading bs.

Schorl Tourmaline eredeti hozzászólása:

Survivor mains don't like using stealth, so they get caught and resort to looping. Legion counters looping, so this is a dumb idea. There was one exploit to him, but to be honest there was ways to fight legion (despite survs constantly calling "no counterplay!"). It just involves things that people who have mastered looping find dull. Honestly, I sometimes feel like this game is 75% Ochido fanboys. I know that's not the case, but all the whining about a killer who counters their only "skill" is just so annoying. Once Legion gets nerfed, they will go back to whining about the nurse.

Sorry to break it to you but the game is about the chase these days and nothing else, people enjoy chases on both sides and not stealth. Please show me where a killer (every killer aside from doctor) is happy to face 4 blendettess who go full stealth. That is far more frustrating then looping.

[Cpt_Vunderbar]

Heru Ra Ha eredeti hozzászólása:

RedLusterArk eredeti hozzászólása:

No, he's broken, but instead of fixing him so he's no longer a problem they instead nerf him into having no viability.
Because behavoir takes FOREVER to nerf survivors yet nerf killers at a drop of a hat.

LoL

Take a look at nurse or billy, sorry you are spreading bs.

Schorl Tourmaline eredeti hozzászólása:

Survivor mains don't like using stealth, so they get caught and resort to looping. Legion counters looping, so this is a dumb idea. There was one exploit to him, but to be honest there was ways to fight legion (despite survs constantly calling "no counterplay!"). It just involves things that people who have mastered looping find dull. Honestly, I sometimes feel like this game is 75% Ochido fanboys. I know that's not the case, but all the whining about a killer who counters their only "skill" is just so annoying. Once Legion gets nerfed, they will go back to whining about the nurse.

Sorry to break it to you but the game is about the chase these days and nothing else, people enjoy chases on both sides and not stealth. Please show me where a killer (every killer aside from doctor) is happy to face 4 blendettess who go full stealth. That is far more frustrating then looping.

I'd rather deal with 4 stealthy Survivors than deal with a single one looping honestly, because at least being stealthy makes it feel like you're outsmarting the killer instead of just running around in circles, abusing a mechanic that killers have almost no true countermeasures for (aside from playing very specific killers.)

Looping is hands down THE most boring ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing in this game. It completely removes any feelings of "surviving", and replaces them with feelings of using poor map design to gain an advantage that you shouldn't even have in the first place. I despise looping so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ much... It's unfun, unfair, and frankly takes no actual skill.

Tell me, in what horror movie, or any other media does the protagonist ever simply play ring around the rosie with a murderous psychopath ? Absolutely none. DbD, as a part of the horror genre, shouldn't be encouraging Survivors to actively loop. It's honestly ridiculous looking, and sucks the fun out of a chase for the killer player, who should be the power role in the first place.

One Survivor should never have so much power to just waste a killers' time and avoid getting smacked because some debris happens to be in the killers' way... Four Survivors should equate to about 85-90% of a single Killer. The issue is that one Survivor can equate to a single Killer right now, and that's heavily due in part to looping being so busted...

Wish looping would get removed. It deserves nerfs way more than Legion ever did...

[MessiahofMelons]

She was bad but massivly unfun to play against. But now shes unfun to play too

[Puffin]

Because developers are lazy. Survivor mains were crying it is boring to play against Legion because you have to meld a lot, and now they have no time to rework this killer (they rework Freddy now), so they just nerfed Legion to lower its pickrate. Less legion = less whining from survivors.

[Machine Spirit]

Value changes wont fix Legion, he needs a rework. Maybe this nerf the first step to them justifying a rework later down the road to whoever makes those kinds of decisions in BHVR.

[Heru Ra Ha]

Cpt_Vunderbar eredeti hozzászólása:

I'd rather deal with 4 stealthy Survivors than deal with a single one looping honestly, because at least being stealthy makes it feel like you're outsmarting the killer instead of just running around in circles, abusing a mechanic that killers have almost no true countermeasures for (aside from playing very specific killers.)

Looping is hands down THE most boring ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing in this game. It completely removes any feelings of "surviving", and replaces them with feelings of using poor map design to gain an advantage that you shouldn't even have in the first place. I despise looping so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ much... It's unfun, unfair, and frankly takes no actual skill.

Tell me, in what horror movie, or any other media does the protagonist ever simply play ring around the rosie with a murderous psychopath ? Absolutely none. DbD, as a part of the horror genre, shouldn't be encouraging Survivors to actively loop. It's honestly ridiculous looking, and sucks the fun out of a chase for the killer player, who should be the power role in the first place.

One Survivor should never have so much power to just waste a killers' time and avoid getting smacked because some debris happens to be in the killers' way... Four Survivors should equate to about 85-90% of a single Killer. The issue is that one Survivor can equate to a single Killer right now, and that's heavily due in part to looping being so busted...

Wish looping would get removed. It deserves nerfs way more than Legion ever did...

Have you encountered that? I have not seen a single killer that appreciated it when I did participate in that, urban evasion, iron will, calm spirit... peble. All I see is more frustration and nothing else.

So honestly you try to bring up bad map design and talk about stealth, where is the skill crouching in the corn fields or in the swamp? I dont see any of that, what I get however is that you feel maybe overwhelmed by loops and tiles. You should learn those, it takes 7 sec for shack and 10 for gyms. No idea where this is unfair, explain why and how it is unfair, not even talking about other loops which can be done in 5 sec or less.

What? Dude chases are the thing people enjoy, mindgaming the other into making mistakes. Maybe you should improve on that cause honestly it sounds like you have issues with it. Sorry gamebalance is not there to make bad players feel good. Right now good killers will simply rek survivors.

Oh and you compare dbd to horror movies? Yeah maybe watch stuff like scream, texas cm again and you will see most of the time people try to run away and get chased, literally every jason movie or freddy. Hiding is the end in most cases.

We can play kyf i will get 4 people to play blendette, we will waste your time for 40minutes ok? You tell me how you enjoy it.