NOED and Adrenaline are crutch perks that ("BOTH") should not be in the game

[TeeBee]

NOED is stupid, this perk is nothing more than a crutch perk for bad killers to at least get a single kill at the end of the game, why should a bad killer be rewarded for being bad, its a complete oxymoron that just ruins the fun for survivors, you can counter this by making sure all the dull totems are gone before end game, but forget to do one and bam, the killer got a free kill for no effort what so ever. Another argument to make is that well maybe the team can find the NOED totem and break it, then save you, going to be honest but if i'm a surv i leave as soon as I see NOED pop up on my screen and the smart play is just to leave the one guy who was the unlucky victim of that walking talking superiority playing killer who's on a power high at the moment.

On the same side of the coin Adrenaline is the survivors version of NOED, this perk will let you go from the dying state to injured, or from the injured state to healthy. This perk is as much as a crutch perk as NOED as that what happens if I'm playing killer, im doing really well, might even get a nice cheeky down before the last gen gets done, then bam, my target had adrenaline and off it ♥♥♥♥ing wooshes away while the chase has just been set back to square one, while it escaped to the door and now is tea bagging by the exit, sorry killer I guess you just got outskilled. why should they be allowed to get away from the chase like that just because I got unlucky because they brought Adrenaline.

If anyone can make a fair argument why either of these two perks should be apart of the game then fair enough, I want to hear the arguments about why you think either of these perks are balanced. Thank you

[EvilJoshy]

I'm glad you included both sides. Most complain about one sides crutch perks while using all of theirs. I wouldnt mind them removing adren or noed. Old ds i would have wanted removed but im content with the way it is now. Same with bt. I hated it when it applied to both but im cool with it now. If not for the bp bonus i wouldnt use bbq. I prefer whispers.

[Leon]

A dead survivor cant use adrenaline, a good team of survivors wont make noed activate.

Thing is there are 4 survivors who can have adrenaline, but one killer who got noed.

[TeeBee]

Originally posted by Leon:

A dead survivor cant use adrenaline, a good team of survivors wont make noed activate.

Thing is there are 4 survivors who can have adrenaline, but one killer who got noed.

True, but having a good team of survivors is a rarity without SWF

[Kettlebloke]

I use NOED on every killer barr from Billy, Leatherface & Nurse. It's too much of a good perk to not have, especially when survivors are using adrenaline. I also feel that the non meta killers need it.

That being said I wouldnt mind if NOED and Adrenaline were removed. But you can't remove one and not the other.

[Zoakadin]

Originally posted by Tinky Big Winky:

Originally posted by Leon:

A dead survivor cant use adrenaline, a good team of survivors wont make noed activate.

Thing is there are 4 survivors who can have adrenaline, but one killer who got noed.

True, but having a good team of survivors is a rarity without SWF

Regardless of SWF everyone breaks totems, and even more will do so when the update goes live. Cause dull totems will be worth 1000 pts. And Hex totems 1500. So NOED will be useless cause all totems will get destroyed 99% of the time now.

So you can get rid of NOED being a crutch perk and add it to the wasting a perk slot category. As for Adrenaline, its pretty much the only "second chance" perk left with all other being nerfed so I'm fine with it. Yeah it can frustrate you sometimes as killer. But it's better than having Adrenaline, Before nerf Mettle of Man, Original Borrowed time, and original Dstrike.

[Powellinho.72]

insta heals are worst than Adrenaline.

[Phruck]

I mean, why wouldn't you cleanse totems for free Bloodpoints? It's the same concept with any actual Hex perk: Once ALL totems are gone, you've essentially hit a killer hard because they have to rely on 3 perks instead of one.

NOED isn't a baby perk. The game has told you for years now that totems exist and that a survivor should cleanse them. Honestly if you neglect that one simple possibility, you SHOULD be punished for it.

If there is Hex:Ruin on the board, I get hit and I drop an item I know they run Franklin's, and then I'm going to go ahead and just say they have Nurses because they see me healing, that leaves on perk on the board.

If I can't possible find a legitimate reason why I haven't seen the fourth perk, I know I need to do totems in case there is a NOED.

Fun fact; Every solo queue game I instantly hunt for totems, especially in higher ranks because that's where most NOED users are. As you get into the lower ranks, people become much smarter about it.

[Powellinho.72]

this new update gives survivors more points for doing totems. so survivors should not complain about it, do bones.

it will also give killers a little more time ( i hope ) if survivors look for totems more than just gen rushing. i duno we will see.

[Alsend_Drake]

Adreneline is a "win more" button. Once gens are done, survivors usually have a HUGE advantage.

NOED on the flip side is more akin to the Killer's Hatch, in giving them a chance to do something still.

[Luna]

noed counters adreneline
adreneline promotes gen rushing
genrushing is counterd by overcharge and survalance (i mean that)
it's a circle with no clear indecator to what leads to it