SWF groups of 3 have a meta that ruins the solo survivor experience.

[Mikaela from OniFlans]

Trying to play solo survivor is hell when you get matched with a premade of 3. I've had a rare game where the grouped players are actually helpful, but more often than not their strategy is for the 4th solo player to be the unwilling bait and distraction. They will deliberately vault windows near a solo player or run to them when being chased, hoping the killer will catch and camp them. Because they have VC and 3 sets of eyes on the killer, it's not difficult for them to ensure it's the solo player who gets caught. They don't even try to hide what they're doing:

https://imgur.com/Kpt8zaT

"we where[sic] trying to get you to kill the meg" (Meg was me, the solo player)

Because of this, I would suggest that the matchmaking system only allow duos and groups of 4. Ideally, survivor groups would be two duos, a group of 4, or 4 solo players. Alternatively, if there is a duo plus 2 solos, then at least let the 2 solo players know this in the lobby, so they know to watch each others' backs.

Group-of-3 + 1 solo player should just never be allowed. It's only encouraging a toxic survivor meta.

[Axx]

Yeah SWF in usually a horrible experience for everyone besides the SWF. A good amount of them treat solo survivors like trash. They farm the solo players, sandbag them etc.

[パソコン工房上海店展示用PC-2]

yes...
SWF noobs are horrible. They break the game balance, kill teammates and troll killers.

[TCWR]

You got unlucky with 1 such SWF and assumed that the rest are like them? Yes, there are definitely some toxic SWF's like you met, but I doubt they are majority. At least when I played solo and there was 3 ppl SWF I have never seen things like you describe. As well as I play in 3 ppl SWF we never do things like that.

[Jagore]

Most SWF are only toxic to the killer. But yeah sandbaggers suck

[Mikaela from OniFlans]

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You got unlucky with 1 such SWF and assumed that the rest are like them?

No, I did not do that. I've played solo Meg up to level 32 so far, a statistically significant number of games. I've encountered plenty of friendly SWF teams too. But "not all SWF groups are toxic" isn't justification for enabling the few that are to have such an easy way to give their solo teammate a bad time. And they don't just make it easy, they incentivize it by making it such a strong way to score high.

It wasn't until I started seeing .TTV player names and watching their replays that I was able to confirm not only that they are griefing the solo player intentionally, but that grouping as 3 is part of it, even to the point of seeing streamers whose friends were taking turns sitting out the matches to leave the slot open to execute this strategy. Hence this post. Apparently, letting the killer tunnel one player who's at a big disadvantage is a good way to secure all the objective BP for your teammates. And it works really well when the killer camps their hooked victims, making it even worse for the victim. It becomes 4-v-1

[massive shrimp]

Not to burst your bubble but level 32 Meg is not a statistically significant number of games.
You got unlucky.
Also I'm gonna assume you are in low ranks. I guess you have a higher chance of meeting some toxic people there that deranked on purpose to get "easy" games.

But as someone with 2400 hours who plays solo survivor regularly I don't even remember the last time my teammates deliberately tried to get me killed.

[Shiro♌]

I have two solutions, but that's about it.

1. Dodge the lobby;
   
2. Do everything to have huge ping, so the Killer would rather create a new lobby than to see a teleporting Survivor.

The first one is pretty much guaranteed to work, if you're not an extra unlucky person, and the second one can work, but definitely less often.

[TCWR]

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It wasn't until I started seeing .TTV player names and watching their replays that I was able to confirm not only that they are griefing the solo player intentionally, but that grouping as 3 is part of it, even to the point of seeing streamers whose friends were taking turns sitting out the matches to leave the slot open to execute this strategy.

I guess that are some 0-3 viewers streamers? I have not seen any 20+ viewers streamers to play this kind of style. And 32 lvl Meg? So you are still new to this game? Just play more. You will rank up and that 20 rank stream trollers will gone.

[Mikaela from OniFlans]

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I have two solutions, but that's about it.

1. Dodge the lobby;
   
2. Do everything to have huge ping, so the Killer would rather create a new lobby than to see a teleporting Survivor.

Regarding suggestion #1, is there a way to tell that the other 3 players are a SWF group that I just don't know about? If there is, this pretty much fixes the problem. If not, then my suggestion stands: make it so we can see in the lobby if the other survivors are SWF or solo.

#2 isn't necessary since players are free to leave the lobby. It's just that I don't usually know I'm the odd man out until the game is well underway.

In the meantime, I've gone with a 3rd option: play as the killer when my friends who player DBD are not online to group with.

Escrito originalmente por Тёмочка :3:

I guess that are some 0-3 viewers streamers? I have not seen any 20+ viewers streamers to play this kind of style. And 32 lvl Meg? So you are still new to this game? Just play more. You will rank up and that 20 rank stream trollers will gone.

Yeah, these streamers usually have <3 viewers. Probably just their own roommate. I'll keep at it and see if leveling up gets me out of the pit of toxic smurfs.

[Midnight Green Hero]

"X should be removed because I had a bad game once"
-Half the threads in this forum.

[ThisCatStreams]

Report them move on.

I've had randoms do this to me when I first started playing. It isn't just SWF doing this. It is a scummy strat that has became a thing since the new hatch update.

[Jesus Christ]

SWF are so toxic and use their numbers and group "skills" to bully the killer I had the same three people 4 times and i depiped 2 ranks then they spammed disrespectful and demeaning comments on my profile and reporting them did nothing
Im trying to get lower ranks to play with my friend and so we can play against each other but with the crap the SWF causes it makes this game not worth playing

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

another rank 20 survivor trying to get attention by making SWF topic.
git gud and play
and you cant tell people how they should play, its their game - their style

[Ted]

SWF is a nightmare for killers and often for the poor sod who is the one solo in their teams. They are often selfish or don't play as a full team, it is like a 3 vs 1+1 at times and often if one of their team mates gets killed they will all dc to leave you to get screwed over.

I get why they have SWF in the game and I get why some only play SWF, since solo survivor means you get matched up with any random moron. But it does cause a lot of misery in this game for everyone but the SWF team

[rat]

I hated SWF more when i play Solo survivor rather when i play Killer. At least as a killer you can smash them with a Ebony Mori or just playing an S tier killer and enjoy their salt. As a solo survivor most of the times you will be crapped on and be blamed if you lose.

But it is what is i guess.