pallet cheese - what to do as the killer?

[TC Factory]

So i just had a few games where this happened already, but my last one really took it too far. I had four survivors who constantly cheesed me by running circles around pallet areas to bait me into the pallet stun. I had no chance of catching them, it was no fun at all. How do you deal with situations like this?
I mean, it went like this:
I hunted them around the area, a barrikade with a pallet inbetween but they would constantly switch directions to get back to the pallet. In my opinion there were two things that could happen - either i get stunned, or i could run away and look for other survivors - which would've worked if it wasn't for the fact that every single one of them used the same tactic.

And as a side note - was the entity vault blockade removed? The thing were the entity automatically blocks a vaulting area if a survior over uses it? I had survivor USING THE SAME VAULTING AREA six times in a row, i counted.

I guess i basically need a few tips on how to deal with selfproclaimed "pro's". I feel like being able to cheese the killer like this kinda ruins the whole "incredibly powerful monster hunting you so be scared" thing. I get that survivors need ways to get away, but if it reaches the point were they flashlight-dance around you or barrickade-chase for eternity it just ruins the fun for me.

[[HN]]

Originally posted by Friede on Earth:

So i just had a few games where this happened already, but my last one really took it too far. I had four survivors who constantly cheesed me by running circles around pallet areas to bait me into the pallet stun. I had no chance of catching them, it was no fun at all. How do you deal with situations like this?

Welcome to the harsh world of killers in that game, a world that ungratful survivors sadly don't understand or respect.
The pallet / loop thing is awful to deal with, but it's sadly your daily routine as a killer, so you'll have to deal with it.

The best way, usually is simply to keep running after them, you are faster than them (except in some rare cases) and you'll even gain a speed buff (bloodlust) if you chase them long enough, at some point they'll be close enough and throw the palette at you, if you are really close try to lunge attack them you'll be surprised by how often you can still hit them, and a palette on the face is a good tradeoff for that, but if you are still too far, try to bait them into throwing without hitting you. Then destroy the palette and resume the chase.
Don't be affraid of the palette, you'll lose less time by taking it to the face than dancing around it and at some point, they'll run out of palettes.

The trick is also to not get baited into running after a distraction that tried to keep you busy while the rest of the survivors is working on generators.
If the guy you are chasing seems a bit too eager to have you after him, then just stop chasing him and go resum your generator patrol.

[[HN]]

Originally posted by Nesingwary:

LOL @ the handholding in these replies

Ho yeah, because giving tips to a guy asking for it is clearly "handholding"..

K

[Heru Ra Ha]

Learn how to run tiles, now where long loops are which you can not afford to waste your time on early in the game. Also about respecting pallets, don't do the same thing always, in general don't be predictable and apply that to all survivors, treat each as a new one. Meaning do not always disrespect pallets, also you should know which pallets are safe and which are unsafe. No need to waste your time on breaking unsafe pallets.

Never ever try to mindgame while survivors can see you, it will not work. Mindgame (manipulate the red light) when they can not see you otherwise it is pointless and you waste time. Do not waste your time on starting with nurse, you need to learn more about the game imo to become a good nurse. Nurse is all about predicting survivors movements, when you can not do that you will be bullied the same.

Start with easy killers such as wraith and leatherface. Get better at the game, play both sides and earn experience.

[Mochan]

Stop respecting pallets. If you get hit, you get hit. If you did you would have caught them so much sooner. Also don't change directions when you chase. You are just giving them space. You are faster. Do mindgames only if you both can't see each other and know what you're doing. Survivor has edge in mindgames because you have the red stain.

Vaulting still blocks, if they vaulted six times you must have broken chase or been smashed by a pallet.

If you think killers are weak and powerless and not the power roll... you are just bad at the game. This game is about outplaying the opponent. If you are being outplayed, get good.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by Heru Ra Ha:

Learn how to run tiles, now where long loops are which you can not afford to waste your time on early in the game. Also about respecting pallets, don't do the same thing always, in general don't be predictable and apply that to all survivors, treat each as a new one. Meaning do not always disrespect pallets, also you should know which pallets are safe and which are unsafe. No need to waste your time on breaking unsafe pallets.

Never ever try to mindgame while survivors can see you, it will not work. Mindgame (manipulate the red light) when they can not see you otherwise it is pointless and you waste time. Do not waste your time on starting with nurse, you need to learn more about the game imo to become a good nurse. Nurse is all about predicting survivors movements, when you can not do that you will be bullied the same.

Start with easy killers such as wraith and leatherface. Get better at the game, play both sides and earn experience.

LF is probably the best killer to learn with. Not only do you gt to unlock BBQ, LF teaches you how to play killer properly because you don't have any powers to help you with the chase or movement.

[Gremling]

The tips given here are already good enough, so I don't need to repeat them again.
But maybe this: If you absolutely can't manage to get a survivor in less than a minute or two while gens are popping all around, let this survivor go and check gens. You might find an easier target and stop them from genrushing you. Playing killer is all about using time efficiently.
Imagine being a single mother of four brats with two jobs at hand. That's basically (what it feels like) being a killer in DbD.

Also: getting rid of pallets is always a good thing as killer. If you have a survivor that wastes most pallets on that map at the start (always destroy them btw) - his teammates are free punching bags for you later on.

Good luck

[Totally Not Myers]

Originally posted by Nesingwary:

LOL @ the handholding in these replies

God forbid someone actually goes on the internet to ask for tips instead of just to troll. THE INHUMANITY OF IT ALL!

[IntrepidH]

The longer you drag out valuable pallets the longer they get value out of it just take the stun if you have to but lunge into it if it’s close and sometimes your m1 will still connect even if you get stunned if you were close enough

If it’s a pallet where there’s no much to work with or out in the open then just go around it but most maps have some pretty tough loops for killers to run and it’s not always worth running them as less mobile killers

[Alsend_Drake]

Play Nurse.

Any other killer who can counter pallets get nerfed because if they can't be looped they're "unfun"

[Dark Consort]

Originally posted by Alsend_Drake:

Play Nurse.

Any other killer who can counter pallets get nerfed because if they can't be looped they're "unfun"

Where's the joy of chasing if you directly catch your prey ?
Looping is about mindgame, knowing where chasing and when giving up.
It's tricking them so they spend all their pallets as soon as possible.

Why do you guys want easy games I don't get it ? '-'

[Yumeno]

These silly scooby doo chases aren't that fun. My best advice is play someone who can at least take a bit of an advantage like plague/huntress, or try out spirit/nurse since they don't need pallets. If you want to be someone else, just play their game and force them to drop it on you, if you do it enough times you will get the hang of avoiding the stun.

[Yumeno]

Originally posted by Fufunette:

Originally posted by Alsend_Drake:

Play Nurse.

Any other killer who can counter pallets get nerfed because if they can't be looped they're "unfun"

Where's the joy of chasing if you directly catch your prey ?
Looping is about mindgame, knowing where chasing and when giving up.
It's tricking them so they spend all their pallets as soon as possible.

Why do you guys want easy games I don't get it ? '-'

Currently its the only survivor method, but I yearn for this game to use another "mind game" than scooby doo chases.

[[HN]]

If you really hate loop just take the clown. They can't loop for long when they are smoked.

[Dark Consort]

Originally posted by Yulen:

Originally posted by Fufunette:

Where's the joy of chasing if you directly catch your prey ?
Looping is about mindgame, knowing where chasing and when giving up.
It's tricking them so they spend all their pallets as soon as possible.

Why do you guys want easy games I don't get it ? '-'

Currently its the only survivor method, but I yearn for this game to use another "mind game" than scooby doo chases.

The game has been designed around this. They would need to make a very big (not been) update to change it.

[Protokon]

Chasing mindlessly in a straight line with make you lose against any non-lemming survivors.

You'll need to learn how to do two things: mind-game, and put map pressure.

Basic mindgaming involves hiding your red stain by moonwalking at certain loops, causing survivors to not be able to react as quickly (or sometimes run right into you).

Basic map pressure means two fundamental concepts:

1. Be conscious about what gens are being worked on, and strategically give up certain gens to shrink the area of map you chase/patrol in. Know when to break chase to protect your late game gens.

2. Supplement your chosen gens by strategically chasing around them and creating pallet dead zones. Once you've got a pallet dead zone, chasing survivors through it means easy downs.