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Your memes end here 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 2:43
700 Rift Fragments to get through the entire rift
Even if every challenge in the rift was master challenges and awarded 5 (they're not) there still wouldn't be enough rift fragments from challenges to get to level 70.
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Ash'gan 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:04 
引用自 FluffyGuy
引用自 Ash'gan
It's only free if you don't pay for the pass or you get it high enough for all the Auric cells which is still not cash in your pocket so either way it's not free, but hey I'm the one with an empty spot in my skull.
its basicly free after if you finish it all
And here is the crux of the problem, IF "IF" you finish it all, which most people don't have the time to.
Hence me calling it a trap, the only reasoning to not call it that is you can wait till the end and see how far you get before you decide to dive in.
CoMtnRider 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:07 
引用自 Ash'gan
引用自 FluffyGuy
its basicly free after if you finish it all
And here is the crux of the problem, IF "IF" you finish it all, which most people don't have the time to.
Hence me calling it a trap, the only reasoning to not call it that is you can wait till the end and see how far you get before you decide to dive in.
Thats the beauty of marketing. It makes you THINK it's free if you finish it, but finishing it doesn't give you your 10 dollars back, just 10 in In-Game currency.

You're never getting that initial 10 investment back regardless of how far you get.
FluffyGuy 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:08 
引用自 Ash'gan
引用自 FluffyGuy
its basicly free after if you finish it all
And here is the crux of the problem, IF "IF" you finish it all, which most people don't have the time to.
Hence me calling it a trap, the only reasoning to not call it that is you can wait till the end and see how far you get before you decide to dive in.
im almsot finshed? its not that hard to play 10 to 20 matchs a day
FluffyGuy 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:09 
引用自 CoMtnRider
引用自 Ash'gan
And here is the crux of the problem, IF "IF" you finish it all, which most people don't have the time to.
Hence me calling it a trap, the only reasoning to not call it that is you can wait till the end and see how far you get before you decide to dive in.
Thats the beauty of marketing. It makes you THINK it's free if you finish it, but finishing it doesn't give you your 10 dollars back, just 10 in In-Game currency.

You're never getting that initial 10 investment back regardless of how far you get.
i got it back? 1000 auric cells,saving for the next rift, it basicly makes it free you spend t 10$ you get 1000 auric cells back to then buy the next rift
最後修改者:FluffyGuy; 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:30
CoMtnRider 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:13 
引用自 FluffyGuy
引用自 CoMtnRider
Thats the beauty of marketing. It makes you THINK it's free if you finish it, but finishing it doesn't give you your 10 dollars back, just 10 in In-Game currency.

You're never getting that initial 10 investment back regardless of how far you get.
i got it back? 1000 auric sale,saving for the next rift, it basicly makes it free you spend t 10$ you get 1000 auric cells back to then buy the next rift
Another victim of marketing.

True or False, you can get a refund for Auric cells purchased? I'm pretty sure that's a No, so no it isn't free even if you earn 15 free battle passes going forward. The first still cost you 10 bucks, unlwss you earned free cells playing the game, which this game doesn't do.
FluffyGuy 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:31 
引用自 CoMtnRider
引用自 FluffyGuy
i got it back? 1000 auric sale,saving for the next rift, it basicly makes it free you spend t 10$ you get 1000 auric cells back to then buy the next rift
Another victim of marketing.

True or False, you can get a refund for Auric cells purchased? I'm pretty sure that's a No, so no it isn't free even if you earn 15 free battle passes going forward. The first still cost you 10 bucks, unlwss you earned free cells playing the game, which this game doesn't do.
you spent 10$ and got 1000
auric cells ( 10$ worth) back so its free
最後修改者:FluffyGuy; 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:31
tinytmss 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:35 
i said this to my friend the other day: if you don't plan on playing dbd regularly, don't bother. the rewards are not good enough for you to spend $10 on the rift pass. I like to think its more of a reward for regulars/collectors.

i mean, if you play enough you'll get it eventually. i have 25 tiers right now and theres still what, like 50+ days left? if you complete all 70 tiers you get $10 back so for me personally, it's worth it.

if you don't feel like you'll get high enough, hold off on buying the pass. if you wait until the last day to buy the pass, you still keep all the progress. so you could save your money, see how far you get, and then if you're satisfied, you can buy it. but it's just cosmetics.
CoMtnRider 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:40 
引用自 FluffyGuy
引用自 CoMtnRider
Another victim of marketing.

True or False, you can get a refund for Auric cells purchased? I'm pretty sure that's a No, so no it isn't free even if you earn 15 free battle passes going forward. The first still cost you 10 bucks, unlwss you earned free cells playing the game, which this game doesn't do.
you spent 10$ and got 1000
auric cells ( 10$ worth) back so its free
You're hopeless man lol. That $10 is sunk into the game, foever lost. You cannot ask the game to lend you 10 bucks if you needed it. You're never seeing that 10 in real world money again.
FluffyGuy 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 5:42 
引用自 CoMtnRider
引用自 FluffyGuy
you spent 10$ and got 1000
auric cells ( 10$ worth) back so its free
You're hopeless man lol. That $10 is sunk into the game, foever lost. You cannot ask the game to lend you 10 bucks if you needed it. You're never seeing that 10 in real world money again.
so?
Zylon (已封鎖) 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 6:07 
引用自 Nepra
Come on... You still have two months!

Its about total play time required.
Not how much you have to do said required grinding.

There is no reason to make thius event a grind or to make it difficult.

This is a game we all payed money for.
This is not a free 2 play game, so f2p mechanics have no place in this game.;

People that work all day and want to play 1 or 2 rounds after work
should be able to complete the rift event. (they dont)

The worst solo survivor without all perks and simple common items
should also be able to finish the rift event. (but its to difficult so they wont.)

Stupid game design based on greed, instead of fun.
SavageJack_ (已封鎖) 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 6:20 
引用自 Zylon
This is a game we all payed money for.
This is not a free 2 play game, so f2p mechanics have no place in this game.;
There aren't any f2p mechanics.
There is a reward system that keeps you playing, but that is pretty normal for multiplayer games. There is a time limit on the rewards, but that is hardly different from a Halloween or Xmas event in any other game.
And sure it cost $10, but the game is really cheap and has gotten updates for 3 years. Constant bug fixes (and servers) cost money. The fact you can earn a free next battle pass by playing this game is great, they could have charged $10 every 70 days but they didn't.

As for the grind:
The archives are a little more than 80 fragments per page, that means if you do every challenge you would only need 380 other fragments. Each fragment is 800xp, but you can get up to 600xp in a game. Even if you die early and average 500xp per game you only need 600 games in a 70 day span (8 games per day, rounding down your progress and the archive).
Is that a lot of game-time? Sure, its about 2 hours a day. Do you HAVE to do it? Not really. If you play DbD as your 'main' game then it is very doable.
Zylon (已封鎖) 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 6:30 
引用自 SavageJack_
引用自 Zylon
This is a game we all payed money for.
This is not a free 2 play game, so f2p mechanics have no place in this game.;
There aren't any f2p mechanics.
There is a reward system that keeps you playing, but that is pretty normal for multiplayer games. There is a time limit on the rewards, but that is hardly different from a Halloween or Xmas event in any other game.
And sure it cost $10, but the game is really cheap and has gotten updates for 3 years. Constant bug fixes (and servers) cost money. The fact you can earn a free next battle pass by playing this game is great, they could have charged $10 every 70 days but they didn't.

As for the grind:
The archives are a little more than 80 fragments per page, that means if you do every challenge you would only need 380 other fragments. Each fragment is 800xp, but you can get up to 600xp in a game. Even if you die early and average 500xp per game you only need 600 games in a 70 day span (8 games per day, rounding down your progress and the archive).
Is that a lot of game-time? Sure, its about 2 hours a day. Do you HAVE to do it? Not really. If you play DbD as your 'main' game then it is very doable.

What they do or do not want money for is irrelevent.
The money pooled otgether from all the sold copies and DLC together
is more then enough for continued game developement and to keep the servers online for the next 10 years.

Now that we got that out of the way.
Requiring a lot of time or difficulty for people to complete an event
is unnesesary.

it could just as well have been a daily login or the time required to play cut 20 fold.
making people grind for excessive amounts of time is part of f2p mechanics.

The only thing an event has to provide in a game we payed money for is fun.
SavageJack_ (已封鎖) 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 7:13 
If 600 games in 2 months is too much for you, don't buy it. This isn't an event, its how they are monetizing the ongoing support for the game. If you don't want to pay for support (because you don't play enough) then don't expect any more than the product you originally paid for.
Pretty sure you are just mad that the devs asked for 10$ and are using "too much grind" to mask that.
Schulz_Gaming 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 7:38 
This is my first ever battle pass type thing I ever bought. I have other games that have the battle pass in their game but never bought it since I don’t play those games enough. I’m already at tier 34, it’s not hard to level it up. Also during the week, I have about 4 hours of play time, so not much time. Now I do play a lot during the weekend but still, completing the rift is doable if you play the game on a regular basis.
mans got drip✅ 2019 年 11 月 13 日 下午 7:40 
引用自 ChanxThexMan
引用自 Ash'gan
yeah the grind is rather stupid, and then you have the paid track to boot and if time is about to expire you can then pay more to finish the levels to get everything because hey you already put money on it.
This feels a lot like a trap to me and I'm not falling for it.
I guess playing the game and getting things for free is a suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper big trap. Possibly as big of a trap as the empty spot in your skull.
Paying so you have to nolife to lvl 70 or have to spend money again. That is a trap.
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