Consider the Following: Decisive Strike as an Exhaustion Perk.

[Innocuous]

There's a lot of salt around Decisive Strike, and much of it is for good reason: It's a get out of jail free card that rewards failure.

However, most days its used as a baiting tactic to keep the Killer in a chase; something that is quintessentially not the horror game experience and more of a competitive tactic.

How about we make Decisive Strike a tad bit fairer by making it unusuable with other perks, like Sprint Burst, by making it apply Exhaustion?

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[McHarty]

The issue with DS isnt that its being used, its how much its been used.

[zero]

that only really works if you make it also unusable when you have exaustion, cause all your doing is changing the order of operations of perks atm.

[Prydain]

Exhaustion could maybe make it a bit less powerfull. Main issue though is just all 4 survivors having it and having 4 chases extended usually which can result in alot of wasted time for the killer.

[Innocuous]

Originally posted by zero:

that only really works if you make it also unusable when you have exaustion, cause all your doing is changing the order of operations of perks atm.

Why not both? DS applies exhaustion, and cannot be used during an exhausted state.

[Rein]

Decisive Strike = in an ultimate attempt to escape.

I suggested a long time ago to allow one to DS only after gates are powered or as someone else has been suggesting only when you are about to be killed.

[Innocuous]

Originally posted by Toriel:

Decisive Strike = in an ultimate attempt to escape.

I suggested a long time ago to allow one to DS only after gates are powered or as someone else has been suggesting only when you are about to be killed.

Decisive Strike is not 'an ultimate attempt to escape', though. It's a 'get out of jail free' card. It actively rewards you for being punished.

[Rein]

Originally posted by Camp Twitch Stream:

Originally posted by Toriel:

Decisive Strike = in an ultimate attempt to escape.

I suggested a long time ago to allow one to DS only after gates are powered or as someone else has been suggesting only when you are about to be killed.

Decisive Strike is not 'an ultimate attempt to escape', though. It's a 'get out of jail free' card. It actively rewards you for being punished.

According to desc it should be

Which is why I suggest to make it tied to endgame.

Problem solved.

But for balance's sake, one could argue to increase the stun duration and/or remove the "Increases the chances to be obsession" part.

[Beautiful Time]

As a killer you can juggle, have iron grasp on for others that might use it, and wiggle your camera so it makes it harder to hit a skill check. Various other perks the killer can use to make it harder to hit that skill check. Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing over everthing. Thanks.

[Rein]

Originally posted by DJ Stanky:

As a killer you can juggle, have iron grasp on for others that might use it, and wiggle your camera so it makes it harder to hit a skill check. Various other perks the killer can use to make it harder to hit that skill check. Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing over everthing. Thanks.

Juggle? Do you mean dribble? Risky.

Iron Grasp suggestion? You must be joking.

Wiggle your camera? Amateur advice, doesn't work anymore.

"Various other perks taht killer can use to make it to harder to hit that check"

Oh, please, do name something else rather then Unnerving Presence.

"Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing" - sounds like a typical "Don't take my toy away"

[Beautiful Time]

Originally posted by Toriel:

Originally posted by DJ Stanky:

As a killer you can juggle, have iron grasp on for others that might use it, and wiggle your camera so it makes it harder to hit a skill check. Various other perks the killer can use to make it harder to hit that skill check. Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing over everthing. Thanks.

Juggle? Do you mean dribble? Risky.

Iron Grasp suggestion? You must be joking.

Wiggle your camera? Amateur advice, doesn't work anymore.

"Various other perks taht killer can use to make it to harder to hit that check"

Oh, please, do name something else rather then Unnerving Presence.

"Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing" - sounds like a typical "Don't take my toy away"

Sure. Lets get rid of decisive strike. Then lets get rid of Hex:Ruin, BBQ and Chili, and insidious. Those perks ruin my fun.

[Beautiful Time]

Originally posted by Toriel:

Originally posted by DJ Stanky:

As a killer you can juggle, have iron grasp on for others that might use it, and wiggle your camera so it makes it harder to hit a skill check. Various other perks the killer can use to make it harder to hit that skill check. Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing over everthing. Thanks.

Juggle? Do you mean dribble? Risky.

Iron Grasp suggestion? You must be joking.

Wiggle your camera? Amateur advice, doesn't work anymore.

"Various other perks taht killer can use to make it to harder to hit that check"

Oh, please, do name something else rather then Unnerving Presence.

"Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing" - sounds like a typical "Don't take my toy away"

Git Gud, kid. Learn, adapt, stop QQuing.

[Rein]

Originally posted by DJ Stanky:

Originally posted by Toriel:

Juggle? Do you mean dribble? Risky.

Iron Grasp suggestion? You must be joking.

Wiggle your camera? Amateur advice, doesn't work anymore.

"Various other perks taht killer can use to make it to harder to hit that check"

Oh, please, do name something else rather then Unnerving Presence.

"Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing" - sounds like a typical "Don't take my toy away"

Sure. Lets get rid of decisive strike. Then lets get rid of Hex:Ruin, BBQ and Chili, and insidious. Those perks ruin my fun.

Hex Ruin? A totem, easily counterable by hitting checks or by tapping, if you insist. Or by destroying the totem.

BBQ? Easily counterable, get in the radius, mindgame and trick the Killer

Insidious? Sure. Don't need it anyway

[Rein]

Originally posted by DJ Stanky:

Originally posted by Toriel:

Juggle? Do you mean dribble? Risky.

Iron Grasp suggestion? You must be joking.

Wiggle your camera? Amateur advice, doesn't work anymore.

"Various other perks taht killer can use to make it to harder to hit that check"

Oh, please, do name something else rather then Unnerving Presence.

"Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing" - sounds like a typical "Don't take my toy away"

Git Gud, kid. Learn, adapt, stop QQuing.

aka

"I have nothing more to say, so I'll pull the "git gud" card"

Sure, sweetheart, whatever pleases you.

[Innocuous]

Originally posted by DJ Stanky:

Originally posted by Toriel:

Juggle? Do you mean dribble? Risky.

Iron Grasp suggestion? You must be joking.

Wiggle your camera? Amateur advice, doesn't work anymore.

"Various other perks taht killer can use to make it to harder to hit that check"

Oh, please, do name something else rather then Unnerving Presence.

"Learn, adapt, get some skills, stop QQing" - sounds like a typical "Don't take my toy away"

Sure. Lets get rid of decisive strike. Then lets get rid of Hex:Ruin, BBQ and Chili, and insidious. Those perks ruin my fun.

If you get caught out by Insidious, you depend WAY too much on the heartbeat instead of actually paying attention to your surroundings. Hex: Ruin is trash once you go totem hunting. BBQ and Chili is easy to counter, just by running away for a while after someone gets hooked. Why are you telling people to get gud when clearly you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the most inane perks? DS is a crutch perk. If you complained about NOED, I'd consider you legitimate but once again
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