SWF players are still cancer.

[Warpsmith_GREW50ME]

I will never have respect for SWF players, or any members of the development team who support this nonsense..

* Your "level 1 Dwight" doesn't impress me.

* Your "I hid in the same area all game" doesn't impress me.

It's all trash, because while you're doing that, there are 2-3 coordinated sabo and speed built people finding ways to coordinativel stay just out of the killer's reach. Patrol 2-3 gens? Yeah, the minute you move to the second one, they swarm like maggots to the one you just left. If you actually back track, then they just scatter like roaches.

WHEN are killers other than the Nurse and Billy going to actually be able to close the gap on these teams? From the looks of it, never.

I was hoping that F13 would do it better, but they used a bait and switch between late beta and launch, so no. That game is pretty terrible.

DbD is in a sweet spot in the market right now, with no real competition, but they really need to curb this SWF cancer trash.

I guess killers have to make a decision: play Nurse, or quit?

[Bratenbärbel]

It's and online game where you play with friends against a single person, to have fun. This is happening in every game that offers X vs 1. just get yourself franklins demise if its because of flashlights, if not, thats your fault.

[Warpsmith_GREW50ME]

Originally posted by Muffinsfressnapf:

It's and online game where you play with friends against a single person, to have fun. This is happening in every game that offers X vs 1. just get yourself franklins demise if its because of flashlights, if not, thats your fault.

If the game was balanced for SWF, I'd agree. It's not, and I don't agree.

[Knobz]

Originally posted by Muffinsfressnapf:

It's and online game where you play with friends against a single person, to have fun. This is happening in every game that offers X vs 1. just get yourself franklins demise if its because of flashlights, if not, thats your fault.

how come Killers fun is at the expense of whether or not your group of 4 has Instaflashlights, BNPs etc?

Cant stand condescending posts like the killer is supposed to just shut up its a game, go have fun. Ummm not when the very topic of the thread is about killer not having fun

survivor mains spit in killers face like this daily and we are supposed to just shut up. No your SWF flashlight teams are ruining the game and THAT is why we now have Franklins Demise.

[Mr. KitKat]

I play 50/50, survivor and killer.

I must say, latelly ive been playing with 3 more friends, and my god

The bs is insane. We all 4 manage to get double pips in 95% of the games.
We 99% gens just for avoid rq, because in 5minutes window 5gens are done if we wanted.
Flashlights saves are constant, bodyblocks, quite killers, loopings, you pick your poison.
We manage to bend some killers to turn matches into a farm fest, because otherwise they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ without lube...

Imo, swf is broken af.

[Axumm]

2 words: totem buff

[Knobz]

Originally posted by PhilVal:

I play 50/50, survivor and killer.

I must say, latelly ive been playing with 3 more friends, and my god

The bs is insane. We all 4 manage to get double pips in 95% of the games.
We 99% gens just for avoid rq, because in 5minutes window 5gens are done if we wanted.
Flashlights saves are constant, bodyblocks, quite killers, loopings, you pick your poison.
We manage to bend some killers to turn matches into a farm fest, because otherwise they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ without lube...

Imo, swf is broken af.

if it wasnt co coordinated with the help of online forums it wouldnt be so bad. if it was JUSt casual friends it wouldnt be too bad,...

But truth is, SWF is NOT just casual friends playing, thats fantasy. Maybe a few but the MAJORITY of top rank SWF groups are actually memebers of Comepetitve DbD groups and forums, they group up every night, play with the same groups of people and are basically like pro PUBG teams.

They post discord links and invite the same members every night, there can be well over 1,000 competitive group players on at night easily, probably much more.

SWF is not being used for casual play with friends, its being used be competitive group players anyone who pretends that SWF is just casual couch gaming is out of their mind.

I joined some DbD groups and the first thing they want you to do is "install Discord" that is literally HOW you get invited to the lobby and thats why you dont see them on friends lists on profile, they use Discord to group up. in pick up groups. every night, same people.

join one and see how well they are coordinated, SWF is not casual at all. You are going against the best there is and it is as coordinated as a PUBG team

[Mr. KitKat]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/exzordor:

Originally posted by PhilVal:

I play 50/50, survivor and killer.

I must say, latelly ive been playing with 3 more friends, and my god

The bs is insane. We all 4 manage to get double pips in 95% of the games.
We 99% gens just for avoid rq, because in 5minutes window 5gens are done if we wanted.
Flashlights saves are constant, bodyblocks, quite killers, loopings, you pick your poison.
We manage to bend some killers to turn matches into a farm fest, because otherwise they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ without lube...

Imo, swf is broken af.

if it wasnt co coordinated with the help of online forums it wouldnt be so bad. if it was JUSt casual friends it wouldnt be too bad,...

But truth is, SWF is NOT just casual friends playing, thats fantasy. Maybe a few but the MAJORITY of top rank SWF groups are actually memebers of Comepetitve DbD groups and forums, they group up every night, play with the same groups of people and are basically like pro PUBG teams.

They post discord links and invite the same members every night, there can be well over 1,000 competitive group players on at night easily, probably much more.

SWF is not being used for casual play with friends, its being used be competitive group players anyone who pretends that SWF is just casual couch gaming is out of their mind.

I joined some DbD groups and the first thing they want you to do is "install Discord" that is literally HOW you get invited to the lobby and thats why you dont see them on friends lists on profile, they use Discord to group up. in pick up groups. every night, same people.

join one and see how well they are coordinated, SWF is not casual at all. You are going against the best there is and it is as coordinated as a PUBG team

I know that :)

[Knobz]

Originally posted by PhilVal:

I know that :)

figured you did I was just adding to your post.

[⛧]

All I can say is, don't purposely disrespect EVERY swf until they do the same to you, I can tell you right now not every single SWF is going to be absolute cancer/disrespectful to you and your fun.

Stop going against any 4 man SWFs w/ toolboxes and flashlights, thats the a start to having fun again, bring FD, bring Moris, literally bring anything that can give em karma, the 2 man SWF's are not nearly as cancer and toxic as 3-4's are.

I just started killer again and I can't deny 3 to 4 man SWFs are what ruins the fun, but as many people say, dodge those, if there'sjust 2, leave em, they're not as bad and I find them to be playing for fun, not to be toxic.

[MarylandManson]

Leave the SWF lobbies. It's pretty simple. You're playing against VoIP and a group of trash talkers who think they're awesome if they can troll 4 v 1. You will gain nothing from playing them but excuses and salt if you win and mockery if you lose.

When they sit in the lobby because no killer accepts the game they'll go back to queueing solo. If you play them you are giving life to the cancer.

Killers owe them nothing.

[Beef]

SWF isn't cancer, it's a challenge. You can easily adapt if you see 4 SWF people, who cares about flashlights, easy to dodge those. Just pick the survivor up and face a wall or something they can't flash through and then just look up. Check a nearby hook in advance. you know they will body block, so hit them out of your way and turn around or up, so you don't get blinded.
For the pallet loopers just run enduring + brutal strength and don't mind game them on any pallet.
I'm rank 1 as Killer since yesterday again and NOED helped me out a lot against swf, since you don't find anything else when you are rank 1-8 xD. It's not your fault if they are too stupid to destroy all 5 totems in advance. I main the Doc, i usually run add-ons which make them get crazy way faster while shocking + 75% more shockrange. If you get one on the hook and they unhook with BT, just hit the guy on the hook and follow the other. Since he is on Tier 3 he can't heal himself and if noone else is nearby he will fall to the ground which wastes time to the remaining two since they have to heal him up again. also his Tier 3 will always give you his location. So if you see he is back on his legs, run straight to him since you always get 1 free hit on him and maybe 1 or 2 on the others. Just abuse their alturism against them. I play against any group. Either i outsmart them or they outsmart me idc. I learn one or two new things and get better as a killer. Just get better at your game and also your mindgame. Remember he can only jump 3 times through a window in a chase. Also identify pallets which are safe and which are unsafe. Don't bother destroying the unsafe pallets. Only if you got the time, while he is hooked or something. There are ways to be a good killer, it just takes time to learn them.
I don't even want an easy game, there is no fun if there is no challenge. Also idc about genrush. Ok they got out i lost a pip fine, but they wasted BNP's all over just for like 8-15k points. Most don't even get a pip just a safe pip. Great you wasted your BNP for 8k points, you can buy crap now in your bloodwep. Who cares, just have fun. You don't have to entertain them, you have to entertain yourself.

[MORIARTY 2077]

Originally posted by Mr.Slave:

SWF isn't cancer, it's a challenge.

Stopped reading right there.

[Wolvieyy]

Originally posted by AEGONTARGARYEN:

Originally posted by Mr.Slave:

SWF isn't cancer, it's a challenge.

Stopped reading right there.

Sadly, so did I.

[PipaLoire]

Sorry for having friends, I guess. What do you think I should do, NOT play with my buddies? Or maybe just refuse to speak to them while we play together?

Seriously, blame the devs if you want (Tho there's no fix), but don't disrespect players for wanting to play with mates

Just adapt, really. This is the only gaming community I've ever seen people complain about PLAYERS WHO QUEUE WITH THEIR FRIENDS?!

[Wolvieyy]

Originally posted by Agrippa:

Sorry for having friends, I guess. What do you think I should do, NOT play with my friends? Or maybe just refuse to speak to them while we play together?

Seriously, blame the devs if you want (Tho there's no fix), but don't disrespect players for wanting to play with friends.

I can understand wanting to play with friends. I do on occasion. I've also played with randoms who begged for me to join their discord.

The fact is that VOIP is a rather large unfair advantage, whether you want to admit it or not.

There are a few ways they could "fix" it. Frankly, I wouldn't care if they removed it, but they won't because I remember the pains of survivors lobby dodging to find their friends.

They need to weaken the survivors within a SWF group, while also compensating the killer for having to deal with it.

Also, don't be disrespectful to killers who don't want to face it unless you fully understand why they don't.