Looping sucks. Camping sucks. Who cares.

[BRONIN]

You know what's funny about all the issues in this game?

Camping. Tunnel vision. "Gen rushing". Looping.

They're all player made. I feel bad for these devs. This game has turned into a toxic sport because neither side will give up.

And yes: because of the ♥♥♥♥ killers do, I will never not play without SWF when I'm trying to take it seriously. Because Insidious exists. GG.

[BRONIN]

Originally posted by Tucking Friggered:

Having to dodge 6-12 SWF groups when I want to have a decent game is getting tiresome.

Just bought Middle Earth Shadow of War Silver edition.

I'm not going to stay logged on hours on end trying to find a fair game.

They need to implement an opt out for the SWF.

I'm not going to quit DbD but i'm not going to continue wasting long tracts of time either.

And no i'm not going to face Voip.

Consider one more killer main, an active one, checking out from being readily available to occasionally available.

It's getting tiresome having killers do things like the camping because they think you're in a SWF group.

They're both getting old.

[Brain98]

Originally posted by SUPAH JD:

Originally posted by Brain98:

If you let everything a killer does get to you, you'll never enjoy the game.

If you let everything a survivor does get to you, you'll never enjoy the game.

Like others have said I agreed up until the very last sentence.

All I can say is just play man... No one cares if you do SWF honestly. Killers have had to deal with it since its release almost a year ago and aren't strangers to it. If it's what you have to do to win, fine. So be it. That being said, Killers will do what they have to do to win against your squad so don't get mad when they do.

See, the problem is: killers do the cheap ♥♥♥♥ regardless.

I never said they didn't. But survivors do cheap things all the time too to pull out a win (yes, even in solo queue). It's not a mutually exclusive phenomenon. We'll never know who started the cycle of "you do x then I'll do x right back" behavior and in the end it doesn't matter. What does matter is the environment exists and it won't change. So we have to adapt. But we have to understand our opponent has adapted too.

Like I said... it's really best to just play for fun. The minute the fun stops, it's time for a break or lower your rank.

[Terrorize Exercise]

Insidious is only a problem for new players, its always painfully obvious when a killer uses it.

[Evil Fluffy]

Originally posted by SUPAH JD:

You know what's funny about all the issues in this game?

Camping. Tunnel vision. "Gen rushing". Looping.

They're all player made. I feel bad for these devs. This game has turned into a toxic sport because neither side will give up.

And yes: because of the♥♥♥♥♥♥killers do, I will never not play without SWF when I'm trying to take it seriously. Because Insidious exists. GG.

Camping only benefits the killer if survivors keep trying to save from camping killers.

Tunnel vision is also known as chasing until downed which is the killer's objective.

Only an issue because how easy it is for a single survivor to prolong chases.

Pallet looping is the exploitation of the collision box difference, vacuum pallet, and the stun at the beginning of the pallet drop animation to create safe areas to prolong chases.