Mechanics Freddy has that are too strong

[Aus Hohl]

After playing numerous amounts of games against Freddy "The Nightmare" Krueger, I have found that he is broken and should be immediately nerfed on certain areas he greatly excels at. These are the biggest issues I have towards him, other than this I think he is a really fun killer to play and to verse but I disagree with some mechanics he has to make him a better pick than any other killer.

For one, Freddy is a killer that starts the trial invisible, to counter his play style for the most part you have to hide and try to remain unseen or keep running away for as long as possible to stall time for your team or get rid of him or be eventually caught by his power. I think it is good to bring this sort of play style to the game as it teaches players to be more aware and to think what to do. The way I play is to try and hide at the start of trial when I hear him come closer whether I have started on a gen or not, to avoid him finding me. If judging from the sound of music I feel he is very close to me that he sees me, I'll immediately run to make distance and juke to stall time and increase the distance from him to get to me to use his power. Maybe it'd be fairer if you can see Freddy at all times in a radius of 6 or so? IDK about that but this is not the big issue I came here to discuss... My main concern is the amount of time, preparation, and positioning he has to gain on you while you are in transition; constantly running beside you to prepare for that guaranteed slash! You players know what I'm talking about after playing a few against Freddy. The FIRST hit right after entering dream world is most likely to be a guaranteed land putting you in injured state. I kept on playing and looking forward to understanding Freddy more and what I can do to escape him and this is one thing that is really hard to do, avoiding his immediate first swipe. I am not saying there is nothing to do to avoid being hit after entering the dream world, I've played a few games where I was able to avoid being hit versing an average skill killer and even completely losing them almost right away; but a good killer will use the advantage to follow, position, and prepare for anything the survivor can do you juke or avoid him. Although some of the things you can do to escape this is too wait between a pallet to drop it on him, but even this can be foreseen and the killer can surprise lounge at you. In my opinion this is the number one broken mechanic that need to be fixed that Freddy has, which had not been predicted or thought through by the game makers. For the resolution to this problem I think it would be necessary to reduce his movement speed by say 30% during the transition into Dream World to give a small distance that every other killers have, after being seen so that he can't insta-hit you once he is able to attack.

The second issue I have that I find is too strong is the vision on survivors’ auras outside the terror radius while they are in the Dream World. I think it’s a good idea that helps him find the other survivors and for survivor players to learn how to work as a team to be safe, but the problem is the radius is too short; it feels like you always have to listen to the music so that he isn't able to see you outside his 32 meter (if I'm correct) terror radius, it forces you to be limited to the map and if any other awakened survivor are outside of the terror radius it would be hard to seek help, then you would have to be constantly hiding or find a gen to fail a skill check or fail a heal to wake yourself up. I think it makes it difficult to be safe after escaping Freddy.

As a reminder I am not saying Freddy Krueger is completely broken as there are mechanics that survivors can use like healing while body blocking a survivor who's down so that Freddy cannot get to them and leaves the limited option to use his dream power on the survivors who are healing. Other advantages survivors have are the race to the black lock; survivors are freely able to go through that escape before The Nightmare puts them to sleep.

I would like for this post to be seen by the Dead by Daylight community and even the developers to be able to shine light on unfair overpowered gameplay and to help balance the game.

Also I am very sorry for any poor grammar or paragraph structure and making it a drag to read.

Thanks for all your time and consideration in advance,

Cambo Son

[Chikorita]

1st - didn't read
2nd - more importantly, you have to be able to find enough games to get to rank 1...least while at rank 1, it takes me 10 minutes minimum to find a game.

[[Æsir]Durlek]

Wall of text summed up:

"I am bad, so please nerf freddy".

[Aus Hohl]

Duriek, I can guarentee you I am not bad at the game, I've reached rank 1 many times. You are a simple minded idiot who doesnt have the patients comprehend or try to understand what is being said. I spoke about a couple mechanics that I think are too good for his kit that makes him excel as a killer. Before you make any presumptive accusations and just want to flame on people, try understanding what the forum is about :)

[Scarsick]

Originally posted by Cambo Son:

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https://youtu.be/VnT7pT6zCcA

[Lamb Sauce]

Originally posted by Cambo Son:

Duriek, I can guarentee you I am not bad at the game, I've reached rank 1 many times. You are a simple minded idiot who doesnt have the patients comprehend or try to understand what is being said. I spoke about a couple mechanics that I think are too good for his kit that makes him excel as a killer. Before you make any prejudice accusations and just want to flame on people, try understanding what the forum is about :)

Except you haven't reached rank 1 yet. Neither as killer, nor as survivor. You are simple minded if you think no-one can check your achievements.

EDIT: Before you make any statements about high rank gameplay, maybe reach it first.

[Vancold]

Originally posted by ÆsirDurlek:

Wall of text summed up:

"I am bad, so please nerf freddy".

Yep. Probably.

But please write the same thing on every "Looping is broken, need nerf, easy way to rank 1"; write there too: "Git gud, baddie, l2p".

[Morivaq]

If you simply bring yourself out of the dream world, his aura reading doesn't matter. He becomes good when survivors are too stupid to do so. He can't be chasing everyone at once. I have had plenty of games beating Freddy and plenty losing. He is amazingly easy to pip against regardless of escape and cannot face camp you so I prefer him over a face camper any day.

[Scarsick]

Originally posted by Cambo Son:

Duriek, I can guarentee you I am not bad at the game, I've reached rank 1 many times.

https://youtu.be/IdtKbq3Omkw

If you're gonna lie, at least make your profile private.

[Mistakes were made]

So your solution is to make him exactly like the wraith?

Edit: no offense to the original poster, but you have not even reached rank 10 as killer yet. You don't really have the experience under your belt to claim what an OP killer is. Get a killer to rank 1 first and then see how you feel.

[Aus Hohl]

Originally posted by LurkingTerror:

Originally posted by Cambo Son:

Duriek, I can guarentee you I am not bad at the game, I've reached rank 1 many times. You are a simple minded idiot who doesnt have the patients comprehend or try to understand what is being said. I spoke about a couple mechanics that I think are too good for his kit that makes him excel as a killer. Before you make any prejudice accusations and just want to flame on people, try understanding what the forum is about :)

Except you haven't reached rank 1 yet. Neither as killer, nor as survivor. You are simple minded if you think no-one can check your achievements.

I have been there or close, and around rank around 7 I think with killer, I had a bug that erased my whole progress when I was up there and I had no sruggles playing at rank 4.

[Aus Hohl]

Every idiot who is posting right now seems to have not even read what the forum is about. I'm focusing on 2 mechanics that are strong for Freddy.

[Messiah⭕⃤]

Freddy = Deerstalker 2.0 + BBQ and Chill 2.0 + Shadowborn 2.0 + Thanatophobia 2.0 + Waith 2.0 + Might aswell have no humming like Meyers cause you can't tell which direction he is coming anyways + no body collision so team mates can't help when you're caught

But naw he isn't op, just fail a skill check mate.... oh wait, you literally can't hide from him long enough to do a skill check most of the time and if you get away to a gen he sees you via his aura

but naw he isn't op, just loop him... but that is all I can do? I can't escape him or he will see me

but naw he isn't op, just hide... but there is a 50% chance I am hiding on the wrong side of the tree and don't know it

but naw he isn't op, just rush gens... but there is a 50% chance I am running in the direction he is coming and don't know it

but naw he isn't op, you have a head start to escape him... but he can start the head start right next to me and run circles around me until I am in the dream state

but naw he isn't op, you can hear his foot steps and see the grass move... oh can you now? you obviously haven't played surv yet

but naw he isn't op, just use "x" perks... Shouldn't you be able to stand a chance without perks?



Conclusion: There is no counterplay prior to dreamstate, and once in dreamstate it is extremely in the favour of freddy that you will be hooked... leaving the gameplay for survs a massive cancerous dice roll hoping you don't get caught, and just looping as long as possible. There is no room for skillful play. God forbid anyone who does not own self heal, or spinechill...

[Socke]

i don't even want to be rank1 killer anymore, cos 4man swf flash army is cancer for everyone.
vote for more bp when facing swf groups.
balancing this game is hard and i won't argue to any side. both have its up and downs.

[Aus Hohl]

Originally posted by Shakedown Street:

So your solution is to make him exactly like the wraith?

Edit: no offense to the original poster, but you have not even reached rank 10 as killer yet. You don't really have the experience under your belt to claim what an OP killer is. Get a killer to rank 1 first and then see how you feel.

I've played for quite a bit, I don't have the grind most people have playing games, I am sure I can get to rank 1 with killer without a struggle and I don't play every day. Is playing survivor in rank 4 not experiencing enough to verse a good killer or understand game mechanics?

[xBGLx狂犬]

Every time new killer comes out everyone cries "NERF PLS!TOO OP! " , no one can admit lost game that's all. period.

My experience as a high rank surv in some games vs Freddy with full build(one was even with 3rd prestige) 2 games 4 survived, 2 games 2 survived , 3 games all dead , 1 game 1 survived, seems balanced for me. Played 3 game as Freddy : 2games completely destroyed by swf , 3rd game they got 1 gen left i killed all on Red Forest with only 3 of his perks.

For me he's pretty balanced now. period.