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Darktronik Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:16am
Pallet Town setups on a few maps
https://youtu.be/yhqenB_yk5M

I was wondering if this setup on Groaning Storehouse is intented after all the maps balance discussion, patch after patch.

In this match (video above), two guys (SWF) were really good pallet loopers and time wasters, and the map configuration (/RNG) helped them a lot. Unfortunately for them, the other two guys were really bad, but in a game against 4 good players - a normal situation on rank 1 games - the match would have been finished way before i could get and kill both of them (without camping and patrolling around the hook, of course).

Thompson House on Cornfields usually has a lot of safe spots too - even more than the one i showed on my video - and one guy can loop a killer the entire match (nurse is an exception). I had a game there yesterday with 4 good players and i kept on chasing just one guy to measure how bad is the situation. I didnt record it though.

Last edited by Darktronik; Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:19am
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TheMetalCorpser (Banned) Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:18am 
It's been this way since that change to pallets some time ago. The one that made pallets have a vacuum. Think it was patch 1.3 or something like that.

From what the devs have stated they want looping to remain and think it takes skill.
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Tzeentchling9 (Banned) Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:25am 
Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:
From what the devs have stated they want looping to remain and think it takes skill.
Just about as much skill as NASCAR. I can already hear the e-sport commentary, "And he's turning left...oh, another left turn!... Will he? Yes, another left turn!... The killer is still following.. Left turn again!"
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Darktronik Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:

From what the devs have stated they want looping to remain and think it takes skill.

the problem is with some RNG setups of those maps, i believe. It is not every time that it is arranged this way.

But they have been promising tweak it since 1.4, and every new patch (a,b,c,etc), it comes and goes with a FAIR setup and a bad setup.

Last edited by Darktronik; Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:28am
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Sebtimus Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by tzeentchling9:
Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:
From what the devs have stated they want looping to remain and think it takes skill.
Just about as much skill as NASCAR. I can already hear the e-sport commentary, "And he's turning left...oh, another left turn!... Will he? Yes, another left turn!... The killer is still following.. Left turn again!"
background music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
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Neinndall Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:30am 
they reduced the pallets? or no?
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TheMetalCorpser (Banned) Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Darktronik:
the problem is with some RNG setups of those maps, i believe. It is not every time that it is arranged this way.

But they have been promising tweak it since 1.4, and every new patch (a,b,c,etc), it comes and goes with a FAIR setup and a bad setup.
They did do a major pallet reduction, removing one pallet from double pallet locations, on patch 1.5 I believe but quickly reverted in a minor patch not long after that (silently as well). Can't remember if they ever changed it back again.
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Darktronik Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:
Originally posted by Darktronik:
the problem is with some RNG setups of those maps, i believe. It is not every time that it is arranged this way.

But they have been promising tweak it since 1.4, and every new patch (a,b,c,etc), it comes and goes with a FAIR setup and a bad setup.
They did do a major pallet reduction, removing one pallet from double pallet locations, on patch 1.5 I believe but quickly reverted in a minor patch not long after that (silently as well). Can't remember if they ever changed it back again.

yes, exactly. that was what happened. it is really frustrating.
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TheMetalCorpser (Banned) Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by Darktronik:
yes, exactly. that was what happened. it is really frustrating.
Like I said the devs are behind the idea of looping. That won't change as the devs have always been balancing the game towards survivors since the official release.
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Darktronik Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:
Originally posted by Darktronik:
yes, exactly. that was what happened. it is really frustrating.
Like I said the devs are behind the idea of looping. That won't change as the devs have always been balancing the game towards survivors since the official release.

but i dont agree pallet looping should go for good. The problem is survivors being able to do it on every single corner.
Last edited by Darktronik; Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:54am
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Milly <3 (Banned) Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:48am 
They reduced pallets but snowflake killers won't stop complaining about them until there is at most one per map.
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Darktronik Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by Nyscha:
They reduced pallets but snowflake killers won't stop complaining about them until there is at most one per map.

yeah, my video was a montage and my reasoning all over this thread is a lie.

thanks for the bump.
Last edited by Darktronik; Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:50am
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Zherron Vorse Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:49am 
Originally posted by tzeentchling9:
Originally posted by UnbornCorpser:
From what the devs have stated they want looping to remain and think it takes skill.
Just about as much skill as NASCAR. I can already hear the e-sport commentary, "And he's turning left...oh, another left turn!... Will he? Yes, another left turn!... The killer is still following.. Left turn again!"
I love you so much rn. lol. That's fantastic commentary. <3
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Artick Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Darktronik:
Originally posted by Nyscha:
They reduced pallets but snowflake killers won't stop complaining about them until there is at most one per map.

yeah, my video was a montage and my reasoning all over this thread is a lie.

thanks for the bump.

RNG is way too strong here. The same exact map can have 8 or 15 pallets, no double pallets setup or 2. They should make pallet spawns more consistent.
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TheMetalCorpser (Banned) Aug 11, 2017 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Nyscha:
They reduced pallets but snowflake killers won't stop complaining about them until there is at most one per map.
Or you just suck as survivor without looping.

Besides this isn't about pallets in general it's about the ability to loop the killer the entire game or long enough to de-pip or go neutral.
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Tal Aug 11, 2017 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by Nyscha:
They reduced pallets but snowflake killers won't stop complaining about them until there is at most one per map.

1) The original poster showed a video where there is no apparent pallet reduction and, in fact, an overabundance of pallets - and in really close proximity to each other, plus to jungle gyms and other obstacles.

2) Calling him a "snowflake" is a confusing attempt at an insult that doesn't seem remotely relevant to the situation. How is complaining about a ridiculous pallet placement mechanic make the player complaining about it a "snowflake", exactly?
What even is this insult supposed to be? It's not even a good reference to the speech from Fight Club and has nothing to do with anything.

No, seriously, explain that "snowflake" thing to me. Is it just a word you like? It's something that makes you feel like you delivered an insult, somehow? Is it a fetish of yours to use that word regardless of when or how?
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